Episode #102 - Changing With The Ebbs & Flow Of Your Calling: An Interview With Stacie Shifflet

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Welcome to the podcast where relationships, confidence, and

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determination all converge into

an amazing, heartfelt experience.

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This is Speaking From The Heart.

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Joshua: Welcome back to episode

102 of Speaking from the Heart.

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Today, we have Stacie Shifflet joining

us, and at first glance, Stacie looks like

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any other 50 plus accomplished woman, but

behind the glasses and the soft smile is

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a powerhouse who acquired a 50 million

dollar software company with no cash up

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front, and who single handedly implemented

the first desktop computers to a massive

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US government agency after a year in

a field of work completely new to her.

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With no formal training, she became

a subject matter expert and sought

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after consultant in the world of

federal government acquisition and

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procurement who moved out of the city

to rural America to raise a family and

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a herd of llamas for over 12 years.

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She owned a construction company

and also enjoyed a career

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in the hospitality industry.

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Calling Stacie just a business

woman wouldn't do justice to her.

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She's the queen of reinvention,

continuously adopting and

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evolving every 10 years.

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This knack of reinvention saw her

embarking on a spiritual journey as well

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after the demise of her 28 year marriage.

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Regular meditation became a part

of her life, leading to an inner

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calling that birthed her current

company, Modern Consciousness.

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The journey is not just about her

business for Stacie, but about sharing

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her insights, experiences, and path

to conscious, intentional living

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to elevate the lives of others.

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It is her passion, and her mission, to

share her message globally, empowering

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individuals to step off life's treadmill.

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She aims to help people discover

their unique happiness formula,

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enabling them to live lives filled

with joy, purpose, and fulfillment.

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I have to say, somebody that is

like Stacie, reminds me so much of

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what I am going through right now.

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Sure, I didn't buy a 50 million dollar

software company, but I do work for the

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state government, and I realize that

investing in yourself, especially with

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what we talk about today with changing

careers and the education that we learn,

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whether it's through college or not,

all have similar lessons as a whole.

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How we decide to move forward with our

commitment and our dedication often

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means asking a lot of questions, and

we talk about this, and so much more,

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in this overall awesome interview, not

only about Stacie's past, but how she's

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been able to accomplish what other

guests I have seen in the past have been

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wanting to achieve, but haven't quite

gotten to where Stacie's level is at.

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It doesn't matter how old you are,

though, as I have always mentioned.

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It's about what you have as your open

curiosity and your ability to be a

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compassionate listener that makes all the

difference in creating that best value,

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let alone that best version, of yourself.

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But with that, let's go to the episode.

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All right, we're here

with Stacie Shifflet.

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Stacie, thanks for sharing

your heart with us today.

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Stacie: Oh, thank you.

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My pleasure.

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Joshua: Yes, I think I finally met my

doppelganger because you do coaching

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and services that align with my

values and what I do, so I've been

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super excited to talk to you today,

and I'm really glad that you have

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had some time to share with me as it

relates to this, but Stacie, I want to

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start off this question, because the

audience has learned so much about you.

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I ran out of breath just introducing

you because of how much success you've

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had in your life, and what I really

have found interesting is that you've

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led so many different types of careers

to get to this point where you're

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helping others find their mindfulness

and find the conscientiousness as well.

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Can you tell us about how you got

started with even the first thing that

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you did, which I noticed was acquiring

a 50 million dollar software company?

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How do people find 50 million dollars,

first off, to acquire a company,

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but more importantly, how did you

get into it, so tell us about that.

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Stacie: Gladly.

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It took me a while to really step

into that, which is interesting,

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publicly, right, to really

acknowledge it and say, "Wow.

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I did this."

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People that I knew at the time knew, of

course, and the companies that I worked

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with, so, you know, I had an idea.

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I had a very strong intuitive feeling.

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It was a field that I was in at

the time, and I knew the gentleman

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that owned this one company.

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They were all octogenarians, and I called

one of them one day and said, "Hey.

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I'd like to maybe buy your company.",

and he said, "Well, that's great, but

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we just listed it with the broker."

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Talk about perhaps divine timing,

which it really turned out to be, so

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I pulled somebody in with me that had

merger and acquisition experience,

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because I did not have M&A experience.

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I don't even have a college

degree by the way, and-

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Joshua: That's actually really

impressive to not have one.

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Yeah,

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Stacie: I don't.

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He had an MBA, so I pulled

someone that I worked with.

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I was a subject matter expert doing

some consulting work with Booz Allen

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Hamilton at the time, and I remember

walking into his office and saying, "Hey.

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How about we buy this company?", and he

said, "Sure.", and I walked back into

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his office the next day and said, "I

was serious.", so we set about, trying

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to figure out how to do this, right?

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It took nine months, they called us

cashless investors; didn't invest

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a dime, other than some of our

lawyer fees, and we just pushed the

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rock uphill, and we put our pitch

deck and all that stuff together.

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I had such intimate knowledge of the

company, the software, the space.

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I was a subject matter expert in federal

procurement at the time, and it was a

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software company that automated all of

the government processes for that, for

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acquisition and procurement, and they

just kept telling us, "We were crazy", and

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even he said to me a few times, "There's

no way we're going to do this", and I

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said, "No, it's meant to be, and we're

going to do it.", and by God, we did.

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Joshua: That is really a cool tie in for

even me because I've been doing state

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government work, also procurement, for

over 13 years in a variety of different

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ways, so having this conversation,

like the inner kid in me is like, "Ooh.

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I want to talk about procurement with

you.", but I know that this isn't the

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context to do this in, so maybe another

time, but I want to ask you, with the fact

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that you've had all this experience with

federal contracting; federal government.

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What led you into really then

owning a construction company,

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because what's the tie in with that?

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Stacie: Yeah.

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I've been in the hospitality industry,

which is a really nice way of saying

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I was a bartender or waitress, right?

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You know, I did that

for 10 years, at least.

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That was my first career.

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I popped home one day and said, 16

years old to my parents, "I need

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you to sign this work permit so

that I can go to work.", and they

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were like, "What?", but they did.

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I've just always been that way.

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I had a llama farm.

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When I was pregnant with my son, we

decided- I was married at the time, and

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we decided that we'd like to live in a

rural area and bring up a child in that

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environment, because we thought it would

just be wonderful, and it was, so I

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did research and looked into livestock.

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I didn't really like

slaughtering anything.

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I landed on llamas, so whatever

I do, I just kind of dive in,

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and same with construction.

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It was actually my ex-husband.

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We were married still at the time.

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They had flipped the software

company and I cashed out.

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I said, "Nope.

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I don't want to stay anymore."

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I cashed out, and so he said, "Well,

there's this niche in the D.C.

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area, specifically Washington, D.

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C., for a program with the D.

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C.

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government.", and it was all these

qualifications and all this stuff.

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I wasn't operating as woman owned.

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I had to hire D.

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C.

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residents, and it was a special

program, so it did not operate the

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way he told me that it operated.

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He said, "This is all you have

to do.", and I said, "Yeah, no.

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That's not all I have to do.", so we

divorced shortly after that; unrelated,

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but I hired a very intelligent- one of

the nicest, kindest, brightest, most

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heartfelt people that I have ever had

the pleasure to know, to run that company

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for me, which he did brilliantly for

the 10, 11 years that I had it, and I

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don't know how to build a house, but I

know contracts and I know the financial

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end and I was the investor, right?

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It was just my company, and the

company did well; it did well, and the

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interesting thing about that is that was

the time I was going through my divorce

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and talk about sort of divine timing.

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That company really bankrolled my in

depth personal development journey.

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I had the time because he did such

a great job running the company.

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I didn't work full time, so I was able

to really fully invest myself in my

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own growth, which I realized, probably

a couple of years, maybe even up to

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about three years after the separation

and divorce, it's like, "Gosh.

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You know, I had to take

control of my life, right?

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It's just not going to organically appear.

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It's not just going to change."

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I wasn't living life fully.

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I was living life fully, but I was

actually adopting some bad habits.

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I did everything I thought I was

supposed to be doing to adjust to this

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change in a situation after a 28 year

marriage, so I got tired of being angry.

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That transition happened when

I got tired of being angry.

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I was like, "Man, you know."

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When you get tired of your own BS.

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That's what I say to some of my

clients, "Are you tired of your own BS?"

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That's when you really make a change,

because the change is not going to

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happen unless you make it happen.

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Joshua: That is a golden nugget in

itself what you just said, because you

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have to start with that change, and I

even tell my own clients, "You have to

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be the change that you want to see.",

and sometimes you don't know what that

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change is, so we work through, "What

does it look like to be future you?"

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One of the coolest things I actually do,

I don't know if you do this in your own

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consulting or coaching Stacie, but have

people actually write their own stories

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of what they would be if they were dead

and lying there in the casket and someone

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comes up and gives a eulogy, because

what do they want to be remembered by,

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and I think that is really a powerful

testament to what we look at in terms

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of not just ourselves, but what we think

other people will look at us as, but

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it isn't just about what other people

think about ourselves, but what we truly

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think because that's how we live the

conscientious living of life that we need

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to have, so I feel like I align with a

little bit of what you just said there.

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Stacie: I think so.

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You know, what we think about

ourselves is most important.

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Joshua: Yeah.

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Stacie: You know, that really is

the most important thing, and I do

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some similar things with clients

and every client's different, right?

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It's the same, but different.

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Everybody's journey is different.

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We all have a lot of

similar lessons to learn.

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We learn those lessons and we acquire

our virtues and our knowledge and our

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wisdom in different ways, but oftentimes

those virtues and knowledge and wisdom

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sort of all come back to the same place

but we get there by a different road map.

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One thing that I like to do is say, "You

really have to be the person to achieve

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what you want to achieve.", so it's like

who do you need to be to achieve this,

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so another really fun exercise is to

step into that future and say, "Okay.

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In three years I would like to be

doing this", and then you start

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from there and work backwards.

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"Okay, so what's the last

step that got you there?

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And the step prior to that?

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And the step prior to that?", so it

kind of backs in from the end result

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to the current day of what you have

to do to get to where you want to be.

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We tend to always think that

it's about financial success or

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business success, and that's not

what it's necessarily all about.

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It's a component perhaps, but it's

not the heart of the matter, right?

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We're speaking from the heart.

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It's not the heart of the matter.

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Joshua: I think that is truly important.

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That's why, even you and I were talking

about this with even the values of my

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own business, relationships is really

number one, and that's why I actually

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listed on my website as number one,

because that is really important above

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all else, and that's what I truly want

people to experience is being able to

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have that growth with having other people.

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Having the ability to think on the

topics that might be tough to talk

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about, and being able to share that

authentically with people, especially

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of what you said about having those

conversations can be very tough in

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nature, but are often needed before

even getting into the financial aspects,

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before even getting to the business

aspects, because to be honest, and I

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think you would agree with me because

of the multiple companies you've had.

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It isn't just about the business,

but relationships come as the big

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topic that we need to work on first

before the business ever starts, so

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we need to have those relationships.

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Stacie: Yeah, I find that we tend to-

and I've developed a program all around

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it, but I find we tend to evaluate and

assess our lives stovepiped, right?

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We look at our business.

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We look at business metrics.

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We look at this.

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We look at that.

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We manage our bank account.

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Our savings account.

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We take the car in to get

serviced in regular intervals.

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We do all these things, but we never

stop and look at it all holistically,

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as a whole, to really look at our entire

lives, and what I find often when I

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work with people is that if something is

showing up in one area of your life and

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is causing tension, anxiety, unhappiness,

frustration, resentment, whatever that

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is, it's often showing up somewhere else.

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It's just disguised as something

different, so that's why I really like

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to work with people and look at all of

the life domains and what's working well.

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What isn't.

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What do you aspire to be in this area, so

that it's not only to keep it in balance.

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A lot of people use the wheel of life and

they say it's to make everything balanced.

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It's not so much to make it balanced,

it's to make it whole, so that it's

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complementing all the other areas, instead

of detracting from it, and that's how I

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do that exercise a little bit differently.

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Joshua: Guilty as charged, especially when

I was working through the Commonwealth.

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I spent a lot more time, my professional

development, getting those relationships,

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making those connections to get those

promotions, but the biggest lacking aspect

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of my life was the personal development,

so being able to have authentic

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relationships with people, being able to

have the confidence to talk to people,

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feeling determined to be able to put out

there in the world, "Yeah, I'm here for

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you.", but now I'm doing that and living

the best life, and I think that is really

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important, but speaking of disguises, I

feel like you put on all these disguises

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to then start your company, Modern

Consciousness, and I know that's kind of

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a weird way to transition, but I think

it's so true because you're living that

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authentic life, so tell us a little bit

about Modern Consciousness, what got you

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started into wanting to coach others,

and tell us a little bit about how it's

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changed you, and maybe has rewarded you,

because I always find fascinating about

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what you get out of it, especially as you

put something into it, so I was wondering

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if you could share some of that with us.

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Stacie: Absolutely, so, I was

telling you, I did an awful lot

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of personal development work.

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I mean, I signed up with Tony Robbins

and was a platinum partner for two years,

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and traveled the world, and I worked with

a lot of other people as well over the

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years, and the concept for the company,

including the name, came to me after

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meditation, and I resisted it a lot.

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I was like, "Yeah, I'm in my sixties now.

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I don't know that I want to

start another company.", and it

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just wouldn't leave me alone.

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The concept of the company, the aspects of

Modern Consciousness that I was given, the

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big vision of the company, which I'm not

exactly sure how to do that, all came to

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me through meditation, and it's apparently

mine to birth to the world because it

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literally just wouldn't leave me alone.

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I was meditating here and, here

in Florida; I live in Florida.

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One day and I was like, "Okay, fine.

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You're not taking no for an answer.

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You're not leaving me alone.

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What's the next step?", and I got one word

and it said to write, and I said, "Okay.

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You've told me that before and I didn't

do it", so I finally just surrendered.

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I just surrendered and said, I will do it.

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It's fine.

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I will step into this.", and within

an hour, or two tops, I had a text

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message from a friend of mine that

said, "Hey, I've got a friend that's a

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publisher in Canada that's doing this

collaboration book with Les Brown.

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She has a chapter left in it.

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Would you like to be in the

book?", so how could I say no?

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I couldn't, right?

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It's those kinds of synchronicities

that happen and I'm sure that probably

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you find as you've been on your journey

that they tend to happen more often

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as we listen to our little voice, our

intuition, spirit, the universe, you know,

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different people call it different things.

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Joshua: As one guest previous on the show

had said, it's really about the universal

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team that surrounds us, but also the

fact that we have different clients.

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Yes.

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Brianne DiDino, you have to go check

it out, and Brianne, I'm saying hi,

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in case you are listening to this, I'm

giving you a shout out, but for all

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intensive purposes, it definitely is

about who we surround ourselves with,

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but also, as another guest had put it,

it's also what we consume also, so if

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we're going to consume BS to get BS

out, or are we going to do something

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much more powerful, and just to give

a shout out to the book that you're

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referencing, I believe you're talking

about the Ignite the Hunger in You.

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Is that correct?

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Stacie: Yes.

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Yes; with Les Brown and J.

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B.

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Owen.

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It was published by Ignite

Publishing up in Canada.

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Yeah, it was a fun project.

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Joshua: If anybody is interested in a

copy of that, I'll leave in the episode

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notes a direct link to where you could

purchase that book, and there's also

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on Stacie's website a section where you

can also grab that amongst other books

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that have you written, which I want to

talk about here for just a few moments.

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There's other books they've written,

including Ignite Your Wisdom and The

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Wickedly Smart Woman: Trusting Intuition,

Taking Action, Transforming Worlds, and

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I know that for authors that I've had on

the show, I've always been fascinated by

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the motivation, but, I think my question

is a little bit different with you,

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Stacie, because, like we were talking

about earlier, you've done so much.

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Why write a book on top of

everything else, because, I think

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everybody would just stop and

say, "Stacie, you're successful.

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Just stop.

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Stop being so successful."

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Stacie: Well, thanks.

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Joshua: Yeah.

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Stacie: I've got a fourth

collaboration book.

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I'm not sure what the date's going to be

on that, and actually I had a very random

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synchronicity come in for me over Labor

Day weekend, and it was one of those

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super, super strong, intuitive hits, and I

wrote a solo book over Labor Day weekend.

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Joshua: Wait, you wrote a

book over Labor Day weekend?

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Stacie: Over Labor Day weekend.

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Joshua: Wow.

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Stacie: And the working title, just

because it's kind of tongue in cheek,

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and it may change, but it's Stay

Stupid: How To Live Unconsciously

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In A World That's Obsessed With

Awareness, right, so it's kind of.

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180 degrees from really what I would

teach, but I thought of all of these

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negative traits that we have all had at

some point, some we still have, or deal

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with people that have them, so it's like

the fast and the furious, the allure

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of an instant, unthoughtful response,

so if you deal with- this is what that

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behavior is, that's what that means; this

is what that person's missing out on,

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where the lack is in their life for, for-

I just can't think of how else to say

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it right now, and then it's like, okay,

how do you deal with this type of trait?

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Then it switches to, hmm, what if

that's you, right, so it kind of leads

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down, but it's simple in that each

chapter is a different personality

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trait, and I am super excited to

say that I'm going to be working

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with Jack Canfield in a small group.

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Joshua: Wow.

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Jack is pretty well known in the

community too, so that's pretty awesome.

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Stacie: Yeah, I was like, "Okay.

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Who do I know that can help me with

this?", because I know a few publishers.

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I've published some books,

and I said, "You know.

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I have access to Jack Canfield through

this program that I'm in", so I'm doing

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a retreat with him and Steve Harrison,

and Jack's assistant, who I cannot

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remember her name right now, but I'm

sure I'll know it very well in a few

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weeks, a small group retreat to figure

out what do I now do with this body

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of work, right, because I personally

do one on one coaching with people

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and I love it, but there's this whole

bigger aspect to Modern Consciousness.

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How do we really get out there to

the common man and woman; to the

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people that are just beginning to

raise their awareness, or how do

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we help them raise their awareness,

and help them get to the next level?

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Joshua: I think that actually

leads into a question that I have

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as a result of what you just said.

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Not only how do we do that, but in your

opinion, what do you think is the most

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successful way to do that, because I

think that, yeah, there's no one size

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fits all, and we're kind of talking

about that earlier, about the fact that

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we have to learn a little bit about

what clients go through and we also need

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to learn a little bit about what those

life experiences are so that we could

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best identify in line with what they're

looking for, but have you found in

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your practice something more successful

with working with people over others?

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Is there something better in terms of

like a technique that you use to kind of

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get them to talk about maybe something

that they're trying to achieve or maybe

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something that they're struggling with?

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Stacie: You know, I

ask a lot of questions.

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I ask a lot of questions and my program

is a little bit different because

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I do ask a lot of questions, and we

certainly meet one on one, but there

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is a lot of journaling and guided

work that's done written in between

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our sessions, and then we also have a

dialogue back and forth in that document,

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and it's because it's structured.

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We go through different phases.

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We do an assessment of your current

life, where do you really aspire to

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be, and then we architect the bridge.

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You've got to recognize the gaps, how

to integrate it, and activate it in

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your life, but I like doing it that way

because I know for me, and I've worked

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with coaches before too, so if you're

in a 45 minute or one hour session,

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the work that's done is only done in

that session, right, so you're limited

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to what you can think of in terms of

a response in that question if you

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are the person that's being coached.

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If you're the coach, you're limited

to what you can think to ask in that,

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right, in that session and granted they

take turns, but for me, I know that

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for myself, I like to be able to really

put a lot of thought around my answers,

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especially something that's so, so

important, so this is the first thing

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that I take my clients through before we

start perhaps more frequent is it really

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works the mind in a different way and

when you write it's different and it's

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a very structured path that draws you

through, and then what I find in this,

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by the time we get to the architecting

the bridge section- it's the third module

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in my program, that's really where all

the magic happens, and that's where the

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people start realizing the themes that

are showing up in their lives, because

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we don't recognize it until we start

looking at it all as a whole, so I think

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the thematic work is to guide clients

through an experience that opens their

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eyes, and awareness to the themes that are

occurring in their life, and then, why?

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Why is that, and figuring that out,

and then resetting those beliefs.

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Joshua: Having that thinking process

is really important, so I'm kind

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of curious about your perspective

of this, because I hear all the

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time about, "Well, coaching, man.

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I don't have time for that, and there's

a lot of work that's involved with it.

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I don't think that I have that

kind of time to work on myself."

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What do you say to people that are

kind of dismissive of going through

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that long process, because it is a long

process, and I think it's intentional

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for many good reasons, but I'm kind of

curious, after probably hearing some of

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that, even in some of the people that

you've worked with, maybe potential

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people that you wanted to work with,

and they kind of say that, what's

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your response to something like that?

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Stacie: You know, if you aren't dedicated

to creating change in your life,

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change isn't going to happen, right?

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It doesn't happen without

you, and it takes effort.

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I get a little irritated sometimes because

everybody talks, you know, the big word

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now is manifest; manifest this; manifest-

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Joshua: Buzzwords.

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Got to love them.

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Stacie: And it's funny because you start

to see things in a completely different

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way, and they manifest in different

ways too, maybe not the expectation.

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I read something on social today,

somebody was like, "Oh, I manifested

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all this money.", and you know, what

I think to myself is, "Don't discount

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the work that you did to get there."

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Right?

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So it's work.

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It's effort.

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It's not always pleasant because we have

to uncover trauma for lack of a better

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word that's in us, right, and we all have

trauma of some sort over something or some

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things that happened in our lives because

trauma is the experience that we had.

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It doesn't even have to be trauma

as defined by society per se, right?

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It's our reaction and what it did to

us, so until we get to know that part

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of ourselves with open curiosity and

compassion and self love instead of

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judgment, or instead of shoving it back

under the rug to deal with it another

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day, we have to bring those things to

light in order to deal with them, and

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quite frankly, even in our- it's Modern

Consciousness for a reason, so even in

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the concept of modern life and something

like human trafficking, for instance,

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until we bring light and attention to

that, it doesn't change, and it's the

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same with our own internal worlds.

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It's not always pleasant to bring that

up, but that's where you learn to also

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process emotions in a healthy way, and by

healthy way, I don't mean you don't cry or

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realize, you know, sometimes you need to

lay on the couch in your pajamas for three

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days, just really process it at a very

deep level, and breathe through it and let

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the pain out, otherwise, it stays in us,

right, and we do have tools and tricks and

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tapping and subconscious shifts, you know,

there's a lot of things to do, but it has

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to come through you to get out of you.

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Joshua: It has to come

through you to get out of you.

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I enjoy and love that statement because

that's what had to happen to me right

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after I tried to end my life a long

time ago now because I had to let that

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go through my body and I remember that

being about 6 to 12 months of really

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working through that, and before I was

even ready to even tackle some of the

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more serious stuff, which even for me,

working with a therapist, it took a while

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because it was unearthing some of the

things that I had laid dormant for such

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a long time, and I think it's really

important to be able to tackle this-

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Stacie: It's a process of excavation.

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Now I've been divorced for a while now,

probably, I guess it's: 2012

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10, 11 years or something, but it

doesn't happen to me much anymore,

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but there'd be a time there where

I thought, "I've done all that.

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I've dealt with it.

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I want it.", and then all of a sudden,

something hits me and I'm like, "Oh.

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I already dealt with that.

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I already did that.", and so I think

when you say when you start to see

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the change in yourself, so the really

cool thing is when you go, "Ah.

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What is that?"

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Joshua: Mm-hmm.

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Stacie: And instead of being

triggered by it- I call triggers our

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treasure map to peace, so instead of

being triggered by it to go, "Wow.

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Let's investigate that a little

bit, and what is that all about?",

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and then I'll have a huge aha

moment where it's like, "Oh."

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It can be so nuanced and there's

other levels, and I think

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that those levels surface when

we're ready to deal with them-

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Joshua: Absolutely.

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Stacie: As we're doing this work.

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If we ignore all of it for a very

long time, we generally end up in

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crisis, and I really don't think

you have to end up in crisis, right?

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If you know that there's a decision

that you need to make and you're

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avoiding making it because, it's not

an easy decision, until you make that

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decision, it's not going to get better.

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It's going to get worse.

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I think one of the quotes in

my first book was sometimes the

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right thing to do is the hardest-

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Joshua: Yes.

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Stacie: But it is the right thing, and

when we live out of alignment with our

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true values, which we really do lose

track of in society, and how we're

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raised and what we're taught, whatever,

when we really lose track of our true

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values and when we really lose track

of what our happiness formula is- we

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all have our own happiness formula.

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It's not the same as anybody else's.

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When we lose track, we lose ourselves in

our activities and we lose track of that.

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That's where the trouble starts,

and that's what leads to full

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blown crises, in my opinion.

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Joshua: Well, I'm glad that we have

people like you, Stacie, that are

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willing to help others, which we're at

the end of our time, but I want to give

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you the last few minutes to share where

people can access where you are located

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at in terms of coaching and maybe they

have some interest, especially after

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all these awesome things that you just

said, especially here at the end, when

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it comes to being aware and self aware.

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How can people get in contact with you?

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If there's anything in particular

about your books that you'd like

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to reference, it's a good time too.

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I understand you have a free

resource available too; maybe

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you want to mention that as well.

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Stacie: I do, I do.

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I have a free ebook.

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Thank you, and I think we just

changed the title of it actually.

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It was called Two Keys to

Happiness and Peace of Mind.

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I do believe we just

changed the title of it.

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It's actually a little bit deeper

than that, but it is a free resource

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and you can get it off my website,

which is modernconsciousness.com.

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It has two things that really helped

me when I first started my journey,

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and they actually come from the

four agreements, but it's not making

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assumptions and noticing what offends

you, but anyway, it explains some of the

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science that we're not really taught.

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Who knew what a stress response was,

so it explains some of the science and

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there's a little workbook in there,

and my coaching program is Elevate Your

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Life, and that is also on my website

and I'm on social @modernconsciousness,

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both Facebook and Instagram, and you

can email me at empower@aware.Life.

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Joshua: Awesome, and I'll put

all that in the episode notes-

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Stacie: Thank you.

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Joshua: If you were interested in

checking that out, my fellow listeners,

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but Stacie, directing to you, I want

to say, I think that all kinds of

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people sometimes have to find their

calling and it doesn't take a degree,

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or a number of degrees, to find it.

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You have certainly proven that with

what you have done throughout your

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life; definitely a enriching life for

that matter, and I love the fact that

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you're still paving it forward to help

others and I'm glad that I met somebody

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that is unique just like me with this

and helping others because there are

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some amazingly beautiful people in this

world and I think you're one of them.

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Stacie: Oh, so many beautiful people.

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So many beautiful people.

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It touches my heart.

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It really does, so thank you so very much.

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Joshua: Yeah, yeah.

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Stacie: I hope we keep

in touch and meet again.

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Joshua: Absolutely.

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Thank you again for being on

Speaking From The Heart, Stacie.

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It was really an honor

to talk to you today.

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I want to thank Stacie so much for being

part of the show and spending some of her

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valuable time talking about not only the

things that we've been able to accomplish

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together, whether that is through similar

works or other types of things, but how

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she's been able to transform so many

different lives just because of the

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way in which she has made her mindset

not only so impactful, but also helping

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others to create that opportunity for

development, because it's not easy to

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do all these different types of careers

that she went through, and I almost felt

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exhausted just hearing so many of the

different things that she's been able

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to tackle throughout her illustrious

career, let alone the different

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things that she's been involved in.

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I think it's really an important aspect

to not only deal with the things that

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we have in our lives, and be able

to move with the ebbs and flows that

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come through, but realizing that it

doesn't take a college education to be

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involved with the investment of growing.

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I've had many guests on the show

tout their college experiences, and

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somebody that has their master's

degrees in business administration

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and public administration certainly is

just an accreditation only in itself.

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You have to be able to understand that

involving yourself in your personal

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development, or your professional

development, takes a lot more than

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a sheet of paper or two to make

you feel like you're certified

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to talk about a certain subject.

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Sure.

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A universal application of those different

types of things can help you to get to

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where you need to go, but even nowadays,

I've seen states such as Pennsylvania,

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where I live, remove the college degree

requirements from their job applications,

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thus opening a whole new field of

different types of opportunities for

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people that will otherwise shut out, but

it means also to invest in your own growth

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and take control of what's important.

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It's not just about changing that's

really the important lesson here.

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We have to be able to create a life

that allows us to create different types

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of opportunities, different types of

materials, different types of options that

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we have, but it also means delivering on

our promises, which is usually the most

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important thing that we could ever do.

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Yes, the spoken word.

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It has been the universal form of what

really became the world of contracting,

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which I find interesting because even

as a procurement specialist myself in

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my full time job, I've learned different

types of things because of the work that

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I've done, not only about the importance

of writing everything down, especially

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in a contractual obligation, but also

learning how to specify different types

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of requirements for companies that

are looking to bid on products and

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services that we need, but yet it all

started with just the universal bond.

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The words that we say, and that we

do, so I have to ask you a question.

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Do you realize how important it

is that the spoken promises that

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we give to others are really the

contracts that we sign to each other?

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Have you really thought about how

your words are really entering

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an agreement, and that every time

that you break that agreement, it's

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not making you look any better?

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As a matter of fact, it might be

hurting your credibility, let alone

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your opportunity, to form a lot of

different types of options in your life.

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Do you stop to look at what's really

happening as a whole as a result, and

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I think that Stacie really mentioned a

lot of those different types of aspects

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in today's episode, not just because

she was trying to form those different

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opinions about what she wanted to do

in her life, but I think she realized

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her calling as a result of not just

these experiences to help the federal

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government improve their processes, but

realizing that she can help to improve

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other people's processes as a whole.

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I think it makes such a big difference

to not just see what's important in the

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grand scheme of things, but how you can

live in a world that allows you to ask

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a lot of questions, because there's no

such thing as a dumb question, and I love

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the fact that Stacie talked about asking

those questions and journaling about it

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when it's needed, because the questions

that we ask that help us to probe into

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what that universal underpinning is of

our life can make such a big difference,

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not just in the ways in which we help

others achieve great success, but also

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allows us to work in different ways that

we normally haven't worked in the past.

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What it really means is that we build a

bridge of that dedication and commitment

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to those people, and those aspects,

of our lives that we really should be

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listening to, and I love the fact that

she uses this reference of a treasure

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map, and that we need to be able to

find peace through all the different

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types of things that allow us to expand

that peace offering, whether it's in

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our personal and professional lives.

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I can't tell you how many times I've

broken that peace promise, especially when

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I get super mad at somebody, because they

might not be doing something that I asked

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them to do, but then realized that maybe

I wasn't asking the right questions, or

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giving them the right answers to those

questions that those people were asking.

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As a matter of fact, I think a lot of

the things that I've done as a result

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of those aspects of my life, have really

shined a light on the shortcomings that

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I often have and I need to improve upon.

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It doesn't mean though that I'm going to

be perfect every single time and I think

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that we all have to understand that when

we are on this mission to help ourselves

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grow, whether it's through different

things that we accomplish or the different

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things that we interact with, it is so

important to not just discover what makes

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us happy, as one of my previous guests,

Piret, has talked about, but it's about

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understanding how we can use that map

that's allowing us to get to the hidden

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treasures of who we are, to be able to

create that best version of ourselves.

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It's not quite clear, for many of us,

how we can develop that opportunity.

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Sure, maybe you can say, after today's

interview, that Stacie had the unique

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opportunity to fall, quote unquote, into

these types of aspects that she's been

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able to develop herself as a consultant,

work with the federal government, be

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a successful businesswoman, create her

company, Modern Consciousness, whatever

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excuse you want to make for yourself,

I think that Stacie is not making any

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excuses for us today to be able to

understand that no matter what holds us

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back, we have to understand that we need

to keep pushing forward, no matter what is

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happening, no matter what people say about

us, and no matter what sort of failures

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happen, but we need to start looking at

things as a whole, in terms of developing

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not only what we have, but being able

to live in the world unconsciously,

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definitely one of the books that I will

be picking up from her, because we have

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to work our mind in a different way.

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If we're able to build a bridge that is

structurally sound, and is capable of

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carrying all kinds of different payloads

across that bridge, not only are we going

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: 00:40:23

to be safe to get over that river, or

that cliff, or regardless of what obstacle

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might face us, whether it's imaginary or

not, we're going to be able to uncover

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many of the different things on that other

side, just because we spent some time

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investing in ourselves, so start asking

those questions, start pursuing the truth,

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and start seeing that maybe some of the

things that we have in our lives don't

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necessarily have to hold us back anymore.

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Freedom is when you're able to not

just ask those questions, but to

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help yourself get to that other side,

especially when it gets really tough

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to be able to navigate those channels.

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When you navigate those struggles,

and I've even shared this with other

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guests that we've had on this show,

even Brock Waluk recently, it's been

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about not just understanding that when

we go through those difficult periods

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that we're able to be better, but it's

about what we have been through: that

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: 00:41:21

trial, that persecution, that struggle,

will make us so much stronger to get to

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: 00:41:27

that other side, and we can have a clear

consciousness with new truth, new reality,

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and a new perspective about ourselves.

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I know that it's not easy to always

frame that bridge and be able to walk

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on the other side because you might

not have the skills that are needed.

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I encourage you, whether it's

me, whether it's Stacie, whether

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it's somebody else, find a coach

that will help you to do that.

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: 00:41:55

If your business is struggling,

find the coach that will help

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you to get to that other side.

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: 00:42:00

If you are struggling personally with

your relationships, confidence, or

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: 00:42:04

determination, find a coach that will

get you to that other side, but more

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: 00:42:09

importantly, if you need new skills,

new attitudes, and new perspectives

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: 00:42:14

of what you're able to achieve, find

that place on the other side that will

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: 00:42:20

help you to get to where you need to

be, because it isn't just about what

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you can identify, and what you can see.

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It's about living a life of intentionality

that will not just help you get to

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that other side, not just see that new

perspective, not just taking that divine

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time to create that opportunity, but it's

about investing in that change that is so

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important, because change is the universal

constant of all life's lessons, and how we

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: 00:42:54

handle it, and how we stop to look at it

as a whole, can not only help us with our

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meditation and our focus, but can make us

stay a little less stupid in the bigger

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scheme of things, but you're not stupid.

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You see that clarity now,

and you're listening to this

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today to take that first step.

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The map has already been drawn for

you, and whether you see it or not,

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: 00:43:23

just know that maybe somebody can help

you to get back on that path, to find

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the hidden treasures that are not just

inside of you, but inside of others

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: 00:43:35

that can share the same, because those

treasures, they're not just what you

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see as gold and silver and platinum;

all the rich minerals of this earth.

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It's about what you have as the

relationships, confidence, and

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determination to create something great,

something better, and from what Stacie had

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mentioned having that clear consciousness

to be able to move forward no matter what.

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Thanks for listening to episode

102 of Speaking From the Heart,

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and I look forward to hearing

from your heart very soon.

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