Episode #140 - Manifesting & Challenging Your Energy In A Scientific Way: An Interview With Kathy Baldwin

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Welcome to the podcast where relationships, confidence, and

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determination all converge into

an amazing, heartfelt experience.

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This is Speaking From The Heart.

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Joshua: Welcome back to episode

number 140 of Speaking From The Heart.

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Today, we have Kathy Baldwin, and Kathy's

journey to become an expert in the

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field of coaching have been both deeply

personal, and universally resonant.

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It began with her own quest

for healing and understanding.

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Confronted with life's adversities, she

sought not just to cope, but to thrive.

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Through this pursuit, she uncovered

the profound impact of universal

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laws on our everyday lives.

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She studied energy healing, psychology,

and the timeless wisdom of these laws,

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applying them first to her own life.

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The transformation was undeniable.

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Stress became a catalyst for

growth, and challenges turned into

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stepping stones towards success.

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This personal evolution sparked a

passion to guide others on their paths.

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Kathy realized that her calling was

to empower others to navigate their

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complexities and harness their innate

potential and facilitates transformative

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journeys, helping individuals and couples

not only to resolve their issues but to

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emerge stronger, more aligned, and with

a clearer vision of their desired future.

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Now, you might have been noticing

a pattern if you've been following

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me all along on these episodes that

we've had recently, that we've had a

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variety of different types of coaches,

but I find that today's episode's a

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little bit different with this kind

of coach, because Kathy's harnessing

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a lot of the different energies,

passions, and excitements that we have

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had in other guests separately, but

nothing quite like our interview today.

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I think that the question of, "Do you

know who you are?", is really what we try

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to answer in today's episode, while also

understanding that following the rules,

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maybe even taking things into your own

hands, might be the two different types

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of things that you have to ask yourself

if you really want to stay complacent, or

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you want to manifest a change that will

allow you to move forward, but the fact

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that we talk about in this episode about

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systems and ways in which we can get

to the root cause using those systems

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of the reasons why we are held back

into pursuing what we should be

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doing, really makes this special.

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I love that Kathy shares something

about herself and so many other things

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in this episode that I think might even

resonate with you, my listeners, unlike

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any other guests that we've had before.

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It doesn't mean that our

stories are not important.

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Each of the things that I've even shared

on this podcast are an important stepping

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stone towards the greater vision that even

you, yourself, should achieve, but I think

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that putting it all together sometimes,

especially with what our conversation is

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like today, makes a profound difference

in how you're best able to move forward.

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But with that, let's go to the episode.

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All right.

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We're here with Kathy Baldwin.

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Kathy, thanks for sharing

your heart with us today.

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Kathy: Joshua.

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Thank you for sharing your

heart with all of us, too.

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Joshua: Oh, yes.

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I've been doing that for 140

episodes, and I'm so happy to have

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you on this very episode to be able

to do that with you, so, Kathy,

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I have to ask you, starting out.

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Why be a coach?

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I feel like it's always the age old

question when I have coaches on the

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show, but, why be a coach, and that

probably means telling a little bit

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about your story, but I would love

for our audience to hear about it.

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Kathy: I'm going to answer the

question and then I'm going to

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go backwards, if you don't mind.

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Why be a coach?

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Joshua: Absolutely.

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Kathy: Because it's the next right step.

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It's the next step in

my personal evolution.

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I was a normal woman growing up in

the seventies, eighties, nineties.

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I followed all the societal rules

about what I was supposed to be.

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I went into trying to be my authentic

empowered self, while still trying to

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be everything the old world said I was

supposed to be, and I got lost, and

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when you get lost, and you start having

trauma responses like people pleasing,

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and self sabotage, and all of these other

things, hitting glass ceilings, beating

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myself up, eventually, when you're too

strong for too long, I broke, and I had

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a full on breakdown that took me right

down and the medical system, I call it

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offering me pills and platitudes, so

when I healed myself from everything

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that I'd been learning for over 40

years, I realized that not only was

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it irresponsible for me not to lend a

hand for the next person who was in my

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situation, but it was also the way to

keep me safe and secure was to constantly

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living this message by giving it away.

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Joshua: When you had been going

through those tough times that you

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had, what would you say was one of

the more difficult things that you

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had to overcome, and I'm assuming that

maybe there were multiple things, and

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if there wasn't, you can correct me.

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Kathy: Oh.

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There's always multiple things.

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One of the scariest for me

was finding myself on the

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floor, not knowing who I was.

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I did not trust my brain.

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I did not know who I was.

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I was unable to comprehend

the world around me, and I

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felt lost inside my own head.

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It was so scary.

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To lose yourself, when you've been

so strong and you've been the one

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who's figured everything out, and

all of a sudden, you can't figure

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out how to wash your own face.

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That was one of them.

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The other was involving

the medical system.

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I had gone to the doctors

and asked them to help me.

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I was broken.

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I could not function.

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I couldn't stop crying.

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Seriously, I was one of those super women.

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I could do anything, and then all of

a sudden, I couldn't do anything, and

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so when I went to the doctors, they

sent me to a psychiatrist, and the

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psychiatrist sat me down, and he had

me list every single stressor, every

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trauma, everything that had happened

to me in my life, and when I finished

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talking, he wrote on a piece of paper

my pills, sent me the prescriptions,

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said, "I'll see in four months."

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He did not close Pandora's box.

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I left his office and I literally

could feel myself spiral.

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Literally, I could feel myself

losing my brain, and I was scared,

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and I was reaching out to people.

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I had kept my darkness to myself.

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Nobody knew what was

going on in my own head.

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I kept putting on this face

that, "Everything's okay.

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I got it.", and nobody knew what was

going on, so when I was reaching out

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for help, nobody knew that I was in

trouble, and I found myself alone, and

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I found myself in the darkness, and

next thing I know, the police had broken

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down my door, dragged me out of my home,

and put me on a form in the hospital

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under a suicide watch, and I came-

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Joshua: Oh my God.

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Kathy: Yeah.

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I came to.

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I could literally feel my brain start

to come back, and I could watch third

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person that I was starting to retain

and come back to who I was, and so when

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the psychiatrist came to evaluate me,

I said, "I'm okay now.", and he said,

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"What do you mean?", and I told him this

whole situation, and now I'm talking

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like myself and I'm normal again, and he

says, "You're not in trouble right now.?"

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I said, "No.

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It's over.", but that's what that did.

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That's what the medical system did, and

when I went back to that psychiatrist,

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Josh, do you know what he said to

me when I told him what happened?

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He said-

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Joshua: I'm kind of scared to find out.

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Kathy: What he said to me is,

"My role in your recovery is

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to give you the right pills.

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I am not here to help

you on your journey."

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That's what I knew.

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Joshua: Man.

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Kathy: That's what I knew.

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I was literally dealing with life

and death, and if I didn't step

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in and take care of this myself,

then I wasn't going to make it.

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Joshua: You know, hearing this made me

feel like, first off, I'm very fortunate,

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because I had been pushed into a therapist

that really gave a damn, and helped me

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when I started through my journey, and

my listeners know a lot about what my

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journey had been since March of 2020,

even when COVID was happening, this was

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happening for me to get both feet firmly

planted, but I thankfully wasn't pushed

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into a psychiatrist right away, but to

hear you go through this, first off,

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this is what's wrong with society is that

we think that, "Here's this magic pill.

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This will solve all your

problems.", and that's not the case.

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We're actual human beings that

have feelings and emotions.

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I can only imagine what you felt like,

because of the pit of despair that I felt.

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I feel like what you just described

is sort of what I felt, so I

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think it'd be really interesting

to hear for my listeners sake.

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How did you actually crawl through all

these different obstacles then, because

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if the psychiatrist wasn't helping you,

and you were trying to figure this out

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yourself, what did you actually do?

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Kathy: Well, I have been a student

of learning for 40 some odd years.

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I mean, I was one of those curious

people that I wanted to know

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everything, so I was studying neurology.

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I was studying psychology, I was

studying biology, and quantum

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physics, and anything and everything.

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I studied the stock market.

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I literally anything and everything I

studied, and I had been in management

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for a very long time, so I sat down.

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I thought, "Okay.

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I cannot deal with the surface of

this; that's pills and platitudes.

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I need to take my root cause analysis

and I need to work backwards.", and

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so, I ended up becoming an energy

healer, because I realized that one of

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the things that I had learned from Dr.

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Bruce Lipton was that when we change

the environment, we change our cells

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on a DNA level, and so I put that

together with biology and everything.

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I thought, "Okay, so if our central

nervous system is sending off

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hormones and chemicals in our body."

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I don't know if I mentioned this,

but I suffered with fibromyalgia,

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adrenal fatigue, osteoarthritis.

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I've had two knees replaced.

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My body was wrecked, and so

I was able to say, "Okay.

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If all of that is chemical based, and

it's energetically based, then I need to

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get this stuff out of my body.", so I did

all of the healing modalities, but then

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I did the energy healing that released

it, and so I started just one step at a

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time: work on foundation, work on safety,

then work on the next thing, and what

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that psychiatrist did was the greatest

thing in the world for me, because I

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was able to step back into my power.

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It was a long journey.

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It took a lot, but it has

got me where I am today.

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It's what's the basis of my programs.

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It's the basis of everything I stand

for now, but what would happen to

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somebody who didn't go like that?

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What if somebody got broken?

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Joshua: Yeah, and I think finding somebody

that can help you, especially if you are

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on that other side where you are broken.

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I feel like it's a forest, sometimes.

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It made me think of this like mind

picture when you're describing it.

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It's almost like a forest, walking

around, trying to find the end of the

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forest to be able to find civilization,

if you will, and it's not just the

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answers are somewhere out there, but

yet, as you're going along, you're

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finding ways in which you're adapting.

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You're finding ways in which

you're growing, but I'm kind of

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curious then, going back to the

very first question I asked you.

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Why be a coach then, because if you

figured this out, you should be fine.

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You should be happy.

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You're now on the other side.

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Why help others?

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Kathy: First of all, I have a duty and a

responsibility, now that I have learned

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that we are socially disempowered on

purpose, that our whole societal system

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is designed to split us up, to break us.

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It's designed to keep us locked into

a cycle of debt, of consumerism,

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of being workers for a system.

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My healing came about figuring out

who I authentically was, and I like

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to describe it as a food processor, so

you cannot make a food processor work

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until you get it clicked into place.

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Well, when I clicked into place, I

had all the parts, but nothing was

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clicked into place, and as soon as it

clicked into place, and I had my full

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alignment, and I was strong, and I was

the best version of myself I'd ever

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been in my life because I made conscious

decisions, and I made it happen.

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If I'm going to keep that to

myself, what kind of person am I?

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If I'm not going to take this information

and use it to help somebody else, to raise

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the vibration of our world when we are in

such a critical, pivotal time, then that

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doesn't say a lot about the integrity of

the quality of person I am, or anybody

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else, because we are here for a purpose,

every single one of us, and until we get

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into our authenticity, in my belief, until

we get aligned with who we are, and step

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out of societal roles, and societal rules,

we aren't giving our gift to the world.

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This is my gift to the world right now.

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This is the accumulation of everything

that I have done and gone through in

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my life, and except for terrorism or

things like that, there's not a lot of

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stress that I have not gone through.

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There's not a lot of trauma

that I have not gone through.

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There's really very little that

I have not been exposed to and

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learned and had to endure, so,

what am I going to do with that?

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First of all, I have to share, second

of all, the only way to keep me

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safe is to keep me in that cycle of

healing: give, receive, give, receive.

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Joshua: This is a perfect segway because

I was learning so much about what this

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topic was growing up, because I was

dealing with so many different things too.

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Being bullied as a kid, then dealing

with what society had to say about what

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I needed to do financially, socially,

culturally, so you wrote a book,

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and I love the title of this book.

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It's called Unlearn The Crap About

Personal Success and Empowerment, so

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Kathy, I was wondering if you could

talk a little bit about, A, why you

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wrote the book, and B, how does that

play into what you just shared with us?

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Do you give tips about how you

expose that in your own life

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and help others to do the same?

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Kathy: Absolutely.

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I have a gift of being able to take very

complex subjects and break them down

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and create metaphors or ways of people

understanding, and so I go through the

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whole history of how we got where we are,

so you understand that this is societal.

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This is part of a whole,

systematic change that must happen.

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It's not individual, and so when

you understand, "It's not me.

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I didn't fail.

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There's nothing wrong with me.", which

is what we all walk around feeling like,

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then you now have the power to say, "Okay.

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How do I access all that?"

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Well, the book came out of me creating

my program, Drive Your Destiny, which

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is- it was funny, because sorry, I

have to change subjects in order to

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finish that sentence, but I had tried

to explain to somebody once that it

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would be like throwing a person out onto

the road in a car that they had never

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learned to drive and had never driven

in, and now you go, "Go figure it out."

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Well, we have driver's license.

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We have to go through training.

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We have all of these things that we

need to prove that says we know how to

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operate that vehicle, how to land on

the road, how to navigate, but we are

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thrown into our world, and our lives,

without understanding the mechanics

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of our body, the language of our body,

how our central nervous system works,

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how our brains get wired, how all of

this comes about, so we're walking

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around in these bodies and feeling like

a victim of our emotions, instead of

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understanding that they are guiding us.

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When I finished doing the

program, the book was just there.

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It just arrived, and it was funny

because it was one of those moments

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where I didn't plan on writing a

book, and one day it came to me.

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"You're going to write a book and it's

going to be called Unlearn The Crap."

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"Okay."

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Guess that's what I'm doing.

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Joshua: Well, I think we're all

doing that in one way or another.

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Let's face it.

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It is a lot of crap, because of what we've

been told is the right thing to do, isn't

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necessarily the right thing to do for us,

so do you talk about strategies as to how

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we find that authenticity in the book?

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Kathy: Yes.

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One of the biggest things after cutting

the ties to disempowering your path and

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your belief, and cutting the past off,

because we're here in this moment and if

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we're carrying baggage, get rid of it.

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It doesn't belong.

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It has no value in today, except for

what we take from it, so take what works.

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That's one of the things in

the 12 step program says, "Take

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what works and leave the rest."

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Well, if we're going to carry

around things from our past that

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don't work, and all they do is

break us down, get rid of it.

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We clean our closets.

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We clean everything, but

we don't clean our brains.

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We don't clean our hearts,

so that's the first thing.

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The second thing is understanding

that the universal laws are

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not airy, fairy concepts.

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They are actually the way we navigate

in this world, and if you understand

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how they work, like you understand

gravity, then you're not going to be

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beating yourself up against walls,

because you're going to understand that

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those rules are there to guide you,

so if you hit a wall, turn around and

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go the other way, and you can't know

that until you know how the rules work.

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I love teaching this because as soon

as I tell people, they're like, "I've

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never heard this in my whole entire life.

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How is this possible?", and then the

third thing- this will blow you away.

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When you begin a business, or you

work in a company, there's a vision.

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There's a mission statement.

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There's a value statement.

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There are rules of culture and everything.

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Does anyone ever been told you

get to do that for yourself?

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What's your vision?

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What are your values, and if these are

your values, these are the beliefs you

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need to have to have those values, and now

you can create yourself, your identity,

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instead of it just haphazardly coming

about by whatever life threw at you.

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You get to choose.

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You get to create, because we're here to

create, and so, boundaries become really

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easy when it's tied to identity, because

it's either who I am or who am I not.

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There's no question about what

you're going to do, because you

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have your identity centered, and

we're not taught how to do that.

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We're not taught any of the stuff.

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We're taught how to get along in society.

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We're taught how to go through school

and get the right answer, or we're judged

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and we're told we're not conforming,

and then there's something wrong with us

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because we don't fit into this little box.

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Well thank God there's people

who don't fit in the box because

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that's what's evolving our world.

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Joshua: That last part.

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It was exactly what I was thinking is that

if we didn't have those people that were

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looking outside the box and like, "Oh.

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Everybody's running around."

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I almost think of it as an ant farm.

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I don't know if he had one of these

as a kid, but I did where he had like

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this- oh, don't give me that look.

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I'm sorry; for my listeners.

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Kathy's like, "Nuh uh.

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I'm not having ants near me.", but

no, seriously, if you think about it.

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Ant farms.

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It was one of those green things, and

then the ants you would put in with the

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sand and they would burrow around, so

they were be stuck in these confines.

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I feel like we're those ants kind of

walking around, burrowing around, trying

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to make our own path, but in reality,

the freedom was outside that ant farm,

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so I want to be outside the ant farm,

not inside of it, so sorry, not to

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make a disgusting reference, but that's

really what I felt was really appropriate

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with saying that is I think that we

have to be thinking outside the box.

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Kathy: Absolutely, because

we didn't build the box.

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It's not our box.

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Joshua: Yes.

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Yes.

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Kathy: This came about through the

Industrial Revolution when they

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figured out how to automate, how to

make things replicatable, how to make

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things conform and be repeatable, and

so the only way to have that industrial

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revolution was to create a public

school system that created people who

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were duplicatable and replicatable

and being able to fit into that role.

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Well, that's not what

human beings are for.

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We're not plastic.

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Joshua: Yes.

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We're not.

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We're human tissue, and we all learn

in different ways, because of the

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fact that we were all born uniquely

different for that matter too.

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Kathy: Absolutely.

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Absolutely.

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Joshua: You said something that struck me

about learning how to drive, and learning

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about riding around in a car, because I

was thinking about the fact that I grew

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up in the age of driving in automatics.

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My first car was a 1990 Dodge

Spirit by the way, and my

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mom had it for so many years.

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I had it for so many years.

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We actually sold the car for about two,

300 bucks to somebody else, which then

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that was their ultimate demise, but

that car lasted forever, and for other

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people, they never learn in an automatic.

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They learn stick shift, so how do you,

especially since your coaching business,

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which by the way, I didn't even mention

yet what your coaching business is.

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It's Rise Up Coaching.

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That's the name of it, correct?

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Kathy: That's correct.

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Joshua: And so with your coaching

with Rise Up, how do you distinguish

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between those that are stick shift,

and those that are automatic?

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In other words, how do you deal with

people that are different based on what

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they've learned in the past, so how do you

break that down to help find that purpose?

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I like to call it purpose, but

you called it their mission,

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their vision, their values.

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I call it purpose, but same principle.

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Kathy: I don't.

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That's not my job.

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My job is to help them

figure it out for themselves.

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I am not going to be part of that

old system that says, "This is

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how you do it, and these are the

techniques, and follow this system,

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and do this breathing this way."

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No!

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We all have it inside of us.

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It's up to us to bring it

out, and so I create safety.

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I create a place where people can

authentically see themselves, and

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reach in, because every time someone

pulls out a little bit more of

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themselves, by themselves, now they're

learning how to have their own power.

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Joshua: That was a trick question, and

I'm so glad that you caught right on,

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because I don't feel like our job is to

lead people on a system of, "These is my

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steps.", and it's so sad because I see

other coaches do this, and I'm not saying

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that it's a bad thing, but when they are

up in the front of a room, or they're

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with a client, and they're saying, "You

must do this or you're not a good person."

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I feel like that's where we have all this

trauma that comes from churches, that

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comes from schools, that comes from bad

people that just didn't have all their

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S H I T together, which I promised you I

wasn't going to swear, but I had to spell

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it, because it's so, so sad when people

are just stuck in that system, and I

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feel that that was what was my story for

so long, so I'm so happy to hear that.

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You're like one of the first

few people that have said, "No.

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They're going to figure it

out, but not on my terms.

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It's going to be on their terms."

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Kathy: And that's why I'm a coach.

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Joshua: Yes.

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Kathy: That's why.

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I have this vision that as we all

step into our authentic selves,

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and you know, in our dreams,

that's our soul talking to us.

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It's our soul guiding us, and so you may

have it in your translation as a house

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or a car, but anyone who goes after the

house or the car, or whatever it is, and

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they get there and they think they're

going to achieve what they want by

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getting it, they're always disappointed.

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Our soul talks to us in the

language we know, which is for you

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to become who you're meant to be.

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This is the path you need to go.

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You need to go for the mansion.

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You need to go for the Mercedes, whatever

it is, because that is going to get

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you to where your gifts come out, and

the car, the house, all of it, just

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becomes a reminder of who you've evolved

into, and now you can take the next

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step, and the next evolution, and the

next step, and it all becomes joyful.

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Joshua: It does, and all of it is so

important that when we go through,

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and I've said this a few times on

the show too, about being in those

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valleys, sometimes you have to also

be climbing up those mountains, but

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nothing was given to us as being easy,

so if things were given to you easily,

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you're going to have a difficult life.

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I feel like it's so hard to be

able to achieve when you don't

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have all those necessary tools.

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I kind of think of it as your

toolkit, your tool belt, having

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around you, you need to have the

right tool for the right time.

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Kathy: Can I interrupt first, because I

want to challenge something you just said.

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Joshua: Go ahead.

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Kathy: You're okay with that?

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Joshua: Absolutely.

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Please do.

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Kathy: Okay, so for me,

it's not about tools.

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It's about understanding and knowledge.

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We live in a universal law of rhythm.

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That's one of the twelve universal laws.

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Rhythm states that everything

is constantly in motion.

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Everything has cycles.

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Everything has a rhythm,

so we have seasons.

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We have cycles of day and night.

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We have sleep and wake cycles.

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Every part of our life is in cycle.

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So many times, people think that

when they're at a different part of

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the cycle, that there's something

wrong and they need to fix it.

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Well, what if you had this belief

that you're never supposed to sleep?

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You would fall apart and you would break.

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It's part of the cycle, so when we are

evolving, when we're building, when

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we're growing, sometimes we're going

to be at the opposite end of creation.

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Think about it like a figure eight,

or the infinity sign, which is how my

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hands are moving every time I talk about

this, but if you understand that there's

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rhythms and movement and you can look

at where you are, and you don't have to

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beat yourself up that you're not there.

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It's like, "Oh!

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I'm in winter.

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I'm in fall.

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I'm in sleep cycle.

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I'm in rest and rejuvenate."

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That means that you need to do

something, learn something, take

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care of something in that moment,

and then you'll go to the next step.

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The seasons will come.

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Joshua: Yeah.

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I can see that, and in being able to

live in that moment, I think that it's

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okay just to be able to embrace it.

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I think you're right.

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I think that we're often are built,

so yeah, I have to withdraw my

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toolbox comment, or my tool belt

comment, because of that, so yeah.

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Thanks for correcting me.

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I like that.

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Kathy: That's okay.

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I would love to have a whole

conversation with you one day about

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all of the universal laws and how

they work because it's so fascinating.

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Joshua: Yeah.

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I would love that.

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I've had a few guests on the show

that I've talked about the universal

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energies, the universal team, just

that whole subject matter is something

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that's always a fascination to me.

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Kathy: I bring it back into science and

biology, so that it's not airy fairy.

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It's not woo woo.

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Joshua: Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Oh, yeah.

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No, you don't want it to be that.

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Absolutely, because it'll be, "Well.

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Wait.

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What are you saying?", so

we don't want that either.

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You want to bring it to reality.

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There's one last question I have for

you, which is something that is on your

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website that really stood out to me.

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It says, and this is talking

about the Unlearn The Crap

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book that you have written.

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Part of it says, "Your discomfort

is a glorious sign of growth,

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expansion, and possibilities."

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Kathy: Yeah.

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Joshua: Are you still

living in discomfort, Kathy?

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Are you trying to live a life where you're

continuing to grow and expand and have

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unlimited potential and possibilities?

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: 00:32:06

What is it that you're working on?

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Kathy: Oh, what am I not working on?

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I have so much going on because

the more that I have developed and

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created out of myself, the more I

find I have and I want to do, so

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I'm working on the next two books.

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I'm writing a book called Unlearn The

Crap About Stress And Burnout, because

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that is our biggest sign that we are out

of alignment, and so many times people

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think, "Just deal with the stress."

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Well, no, you got a root cause there.

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Let's get to the root cause, because

that stress is a signal, it's your

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body talking to you, so I've got

that that I'm working on right now.

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I'm part of a docuseries.

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I'm part of Voices of 100 Women program.

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: 00:32:49

I'm working on a TV show that I'm going

to be doing, but my passion is this

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Drive Your Destiny program where I can

help other people bring their joy, their

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bliss, their gift to the world, because

I don't know if I should say this to a

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man, but I'm going to say it anyways.

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Joshua: Oh, you're not

just saying it to a man.

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You're saying it to my

listeners, so feel free.

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Kathy: Okay.

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Well, hopefully nobody

gets offended by this.

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We've lived in a patriarchal society

for so long where everything has been

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about control, and power, and taking

people down, and it is time for women

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and femininity, which is one of the

universal laws of gender, and bring

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: 00:33:36

balance back to the world, where we're

back to creativity and innovation, and

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: 00:33:41

we're back to all of those amazing things

that make us human, because AI is coming.

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It's here.

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Automation is happening.

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: 00:33:51

We are going to be out of jobs that

are repeatable and can be done by a

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computer, but a computer will never

come up with creativity and innovation

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: 00:34:02

and all of those things that make us

human, so that gives us the opportunity

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right now that to seize this moment and

really all come to our best version.

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Imagine how the world would

change if every single person was

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living their best life, and just

giving their gifts to the world.

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Joshua: I'm glad you said that, by

the way, because I agree with you, I'm

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just going to leave it at that because

that's a strong statement to end with.

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Kathy, I want to give

you the last few minutes.

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: 00:34:33

We're out of time, but before we wrap

up, how can people reach out to you

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: 00:34:38

if they're interested in being coached

with Rise Up Coaching with you, how

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: 00:34:42

would they be able to get in contact?

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: 00:34:44

How can they find out more information?

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: 00:34:46

How can they pick up Unlearn The

Crap, which I also put a link in

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: 00:34:49

the episode notes, by the way, with

the book, but maybe you have another

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: 00:34:52

alternative that maybe they can

provide too, so I'm going to give you

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: 00:34:55

the last few minutes to do all that.

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: 00:34:56

Kathy: Thank you very much.

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Okay, so Unlearn The Crap

can be bought at Amazon.

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: 00:35:02

It's in every currency.

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: 00:35:05

22.22.

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: 00:35:08

That is a numerical number that

means that you are on the right path,

545

: 00:35:13

that you are doing the right next

step for you, so it's a numerical

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: 00:35:18

number that's very passionate to me.

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: 00:35:20

The Kindle version is 2.22,

so nobody can not afford it.

548

: 00:35:26

Go and learn about what your individual

power is, so that's on Amazon.

549

: 00:35:32

In my coaching program, you can

find me at riseupcoaching.io.

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: 00:35:36

I have my website unlearnthecrap.com.

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: 00:35:41

There's lots there as well.

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: 00:35:43

I'm on all social medias, whether you

find me through Kathy Baldwin, or Rise

553

: 00:35:49

Up Coaching, or Unlearn the Crap, any

of those hashtags or whatever, you'll

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: 00:35:54

find me, and I believe there's a gift

in the show notes that you're going to

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: 00:36:00

share that I have a gift for everyone,

which is a quiz, and that quiz is to

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: 00:36:08

help you figure out how at risk you are

for burnout, because one of my missions

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: 00:36:16

is we have too many success stories of

people who have hit rock bottom, and lost

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: 00:36:24

everything, and then found their success.

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I don't think we all need to

lose everything and hit rock

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bottom to hit our success.

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If I can catch someone halfway

through and say, "Oh, look!

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You're about to fall.", and they

catch and now we heal, that's my

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: 00:36:43

dream, so I do have that quiz.

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: 00:36:45

I wish someone had been able to catch

me before I fell, but I accept that

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: 00:36:50

that was my journey, but I am here

because I'm here to help people,

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: 00:36:56

and I want them to reach out to me.

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: 00:36:59

Joshua: I hope they do, because I have

always said on this show, although I'm

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a coach, not all coaches are created

equally, so if you're attracted to

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what Kathy has said today, I highly

encourage you to reach out to her.

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I will have the free gift that

Kathy's mentioned also in the episode

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: 00:37:14

notes, so you can go check that out,

along with her book, along with her

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: 00:37:17

website, along with her social media.

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Oh!

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I ran out of breath.

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Kathy.

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Kathy: I have one question for

you, Josh, if you don't mind-

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Joshua: Absolutely.

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Before we go.

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Yes.

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Kathy: How many coaches do you have?

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Joshua: Hmm.

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Good question.

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Kathy: Because coaches need coaches.

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We all need help.

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: 00:37:37

Joshua: We do, and I've been fortunate

enough that when I started, I had a coach

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by the name of Gary, and Gary had to

move on to other projects, but Gary was

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: 00:37:45

a instrumental start for my business, and

what's funny is that although I wouldn't

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: 00:37:51

say I have a quote unquote coach, the

coaches that I have are actually the

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family, friends and other people that

have seen what my vision is, and have

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: 00:38:01

continued to surround me and say, "I

see the worthiness in you, Josh, and

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I want you to keep doing what you're

doing, and here's how I can help."

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Those have been some amazing people,

but even now, I'm in this point in my

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life where I definitely am looking for a

coach, and wanting to be lifted to a whole

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new level myself, because even for that

matter, coaching is so important to be

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able to do, so that's a great question.

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I appreciate you asking that.

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Kathy: Well, I want to take away

the negative association with a

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coach, because every superstar in

every part of the world has coaches.

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They have coaches for every part of their

lives, so, that is one of the things that

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we need to unlearn the crap about, is that

we're supposed to go in alone, that we're

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supposed to know everything, and if we

don't, there's something wrong with us.

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Joshua: Absolutely, and I appreciate you

saying that because I feel that we need to

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reclaim the fact that everyone deserves,

and is entitled, to having a coach.

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I think that we often think that we can't

afford it, or we're not privileged enough

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to have it, or, "I'm already doing fine.

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Why would I need somebody?"

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Well, you might be surprised

what you find out, and Kathy,

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for all those reasons, thanks for

being on Speaking From The Heart.

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I hope that people reach out to

continue to break the mold, to continue

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being their authentic selves, and I

appreciate you being your authentic

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self on this podcast episode today.

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Kathy: Thank you.

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Joshua: I want to thank Kathy again

for being part of the show, and even

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as I continuously say on this show

about why I have the guests that

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I have, one thing remains clear.

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No matter what you might think about

what we have been through in our lives,

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no matter what you try to do to achieve

what that best vision is of your life,

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becoming authentic in your own nature

through relationships, confidence and

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determination, which go all the way back

to the very beginning of this podcast,

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remember that following the rules

might not always be your best friend.

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What we're trying to gain from this,

and what we're trying to gain from

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the obstacles that we might face

in our life, mean that we have to

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understand that breakdowns are okay.

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It doesn't mean that we have to be

feeling this inadequacy, or feeling like

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we have to massively medicate ourselves.

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Those are the jobs of the psychiatrists

and therapists that might need to

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help you in the greatest time of need.

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That's what makes therapists and

psychiatrists different from,

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say, coaches, mentors, people that

are there that want to manifest

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the dreams and aspirations of

what you're trying to achieve.

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These two intersections sometimes

are great, and we've had many guests,

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like Jenny Jansen recently, talking

about these aspects in her own therapy

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and coaching practice, but Kathy's

approach is like any other type

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of opportunity that you can have.

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It's allowing you to see that the energies

around you, the people you surround

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yourself with, and the opportunities

that present themselves, all accumulate

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into opportunities of finding out that

overarching question of who you are.

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: 00:41:24

If you keep that darkness, that feeling

of being lost around you, of course

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it's not going to pan out very well.

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Kathy even talked about it today,

about why it's so important

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to not be in that space.

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: 00:41:37

Sometimes taking things into your

own hands, even if you feel that it

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might not be the best way to move

forward, can still help you build

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: 00:41:45

that value, helping to figure out what

are the best ways to move it forward.

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Now let's be real, hiring someone to help

you along the way, to be that partner

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in crime by your side, which I think

coaches can be can help you get to the

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: 00:42:01

root cause analysis that you're trying

to conduct of why you're going through

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some of the things that you're going

through to help you to better gain clarity

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and focus into a positive direction.

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It's not necessarily a pep talk every

single time like somebody else, like

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a football coach or a baseball coach

might do, especially if the game

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is going very badly for your team.

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: 00:42:25

This is about figuring out, are the

things that you're doing working, and

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are there better ways to approach it?

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Dr.

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Jim Salvucci, Navi Bliss, some of the

more recent guests have even talked about

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a variety of different ways, whether

it's just doing it, to finding love,

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all of them have unique perspectives.

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To even figure out how we get

through this breaking of the cycle

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means that we have to split those

ideas that we have about ourselves.

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: 00:42:54

What kind of person do you want to be?

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How does that align with where

you actually want to achieve?

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Figuring out the metaphor of life, as

Kathy would even describe it as, helps

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us to understand where we need to get to.

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It's almost like driving a car.

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: 00:43:11

We know that we need to get out at certain

stops in order to stretch our legs,

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: 00:43:15

especially if it's a long road trip, to

get to where we need to be, especially

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: 00:43:19

when I've even talked about in a previous

episode, of that cross country adventure,

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which I encourage you to go check that

out because it is a lot of opportunity for

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: 00:43:28

us to take pit stops and get to know each

other, but now let's focus on ourselves.

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Let's focus on what might work if

we just are able to split the atom.

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If we can just understand how that works,

how we can get that manifestation of

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: 00:43:45

the energies that we have surrounding

ourselves, which even past guests

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even last year on our show like Bri

DiDino has talked about, can help us to

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: 00:43:55

move towards that positive direction.

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If you figure out how to clear

your heart, and how to clear your

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mind of all the toxicity, and

you choose what your boundaries

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are, I know that you can do this.

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I know I can believe in you, but

you have to find the right system

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that's paired with the safety

to create that manifestation.

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Now, I have to pause, and even talk about

why that's so important from the context

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of what even Kathy has shared and what

I have shared even in previous episodes.

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It's not just about understanding

how that all connects together.

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It's not about saying things that are

terrible about another person, and

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making them feel like crap, and even

saying to yourself that you need to

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distance yourself from that person.

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Maybe they have a point.

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That's one thing yet on this show that

we haven't really explored, which is why

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is it that that person is saying some

of the nasty things that they're saying?

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Now, truth be told, maybe some of

the things that they are complaining

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about, that they are discussing,

are not healthy manifestations.

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Maybe they're not productive overall,

because we have the things that we have

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going on in our lives, the reactions

that we're receiving might be valid,

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but the point is, is that if you're

not able to distinguish between what

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is really fact and fiction, which we

have even talked about what is a story

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and what is really a fact, how are you

ever going to figure out that growth?

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You might try to do it,

but is it really working?

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If you've been hitting roadblocks over

and over again, you need to figure

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a way that is much better than what

you're working on today, and that is

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why developing a system, regardless

if it's something that has been well

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established, or if it's something else,

can make such a profound difference in

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how you're able to best move forward.

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: 00:45:56

It's how you're able to achieve some

of the best things that you have

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: 00:45:59

yet to achieve in your entire life.

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: 00:46:02

It's allowing you to have your soul guide

you into the direction that you want to

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: 00:46:07

achieve; where you really want to go in

your own car that you're driving, but

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: 00:46:13

let's face it, that car will break down.

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: 00:46:17

Your soul will be depressed.

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: 00:46:19

There will be things that will happen in

your life that will challenge the status

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: 00:46:23

quo that will knock you off your feet.

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Those are the ebbs and flows,

or the rhythms and cycles as

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Kathy had put it, that put us

into a different type of cycle.

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Something that we normally

try to overcome, but we

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: 00:46:39

can't quite do on our own.

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: 00:46:43

Nothing might be able to be worked

through, because you either have the

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: 00:46:47

wrong impression as to what you might

think is the right thing to do, or you're

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: 00:46:52

just completely off, because someone has

pushed you off to the side, and has not

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: 00:46:58

made you the best version of yourself.

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It is about getting to the root cause.

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: 00:47:04

It's about building that strength,

that consistency, that passion, that

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ongoing accountability that you can

self check yourself, which ideally,

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that is where we're ultimately going

in this conversation, but what if you

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don't have the best support system?

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I've been blessed for over a year and

a half to have a variety of different

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people that have come through my

business, and I have seen it all.

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: 00:47:28

From the people that had the reach

deep inside of themselves to find

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the courage to divorce people, remove

themselves from family members, or even

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: 00:47:37

overcome stereotypes or thoughts that

are negative in nature, to realize that

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: 00:47:42

they have gifts to share to this world,

but sometimes that car that they've

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: 00:47:47

been driving in needs to be tuned up.

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Sometimes the soul that we have inside

of ourselves, needs to be revisited.

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: 00:47:57

Even though they have been following

the rules of what they thought

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society asked them to do, society

told them a completely different

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: 00:48:05

story instead, and led them astray.

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: 00:48:09

That is where a coach can help provide

guidance and clarity, but we have

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the ultimate responsibility, if I

dare say so myself being a coach

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myself, that we need to be careful

about how we go about that process.

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We need to be careful about

how we address ourselves.

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How we create that best version.

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: 00:48:30

How we guide our clients, because

if we lead them astray, not only

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: 00:48:35

are they going to be mad at us,

we will be disappointed ourselves.

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That is where training, training,

training comes into play.

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: 00:48:47

I don't know about you, but we've

had so many different people share

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: 00:48:50

their stories over the course

of this whole entire process.

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: 00:48:54

It's been over a year of many different

guests, many different perspectives

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: 00:49:00

that I've provided, over the course of

140 episodes to get to where we're at.

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: 00:49:07

Has it really helped you?

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: 00:49:09

Has it shown you that you don't

have to walk in the darkness

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: 00:49:12

all by yourself anymore?

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: 00:49:14

Has it helped you to realize that you

can split yourself from those thought

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: 00:49:19

patterns, those manifestations of negative

energy, the people that have been the

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: 00:49:24

past version of yourself, the things that

you idealize, or idolize for that matter,

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: 00:49:30

into metaphors, and positive affirmations,

and transformations, that allow you to

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: 00:49:36

lead into a life that could either create

multi million dollars of fame and fortune,

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: 00:49:41

or even having better relationships with

people that you always wanted, but it

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: 00:49:48

all started with each and every one of

my guests about having a system, and

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: 00:49:54

that system identifies with who they are.

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If you don't know what that system

looks like, reach out to me.

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Reach out to my guest.

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Reach out to any one of

my guests for that matter.

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: 00:50:07

There are plenty of episodes that there

are plenty of people that have gone

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: 00:50:11

through even trials and tribulations, and

would be happy to share what they have

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: 00:50:15

been through, but do me a favor today.

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Stop putting it off,

because it is your soul.

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: 00:50:23

It is the rhythm that

you beat to on your drum.

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It is the way in which you start your car.

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: 00:50:30

If you keep on running that car for

many, many miles, and don't look under

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: 00:50:34

the hood every once in a while, are you

really doing yourself a service of helping

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yourself to feel appreciated, loved, and

valued, both physically and mentally?

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: 00:50:47

What are you waiting for?

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: 00:50:49

Are you waiting for that

breakdown to happen?

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: 00:50:52

Are you waiting to feel sad and all alone,

or, maybe you just need that extra push,

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: 00:50:58

because you are doing the right things.

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: 00:51:01

Regardless of where your stance is at.

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: 00:51:03

Regardless of what your background is,

just know, that you have everything,

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: 00:51:10

and everything I mean, to make this

happen, just like my guest Kathy has,

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: 00:51:16

because regardless of any universal

laws, regardless of any transformation,

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: 00:51:21

regardless of the things that you take

in your own hands, I promise you, there

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: 00:51:26

are greater rewards that lie ahead.

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: 00:51:29

Those are the treasures, regardless

of whether you think it's gold or not,

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: 00:51:34

that will help you become the best

version of yourself, in the personal

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: 00:51:39

and professional struggles that you go

through, not just on a daily basis, or

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: 00:51:43

a weekly basis, or a monthly basis, or

even a yearly basis, but in any time

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: 00:51:50

period that you can think of, it will help

you see who you can ultimately become.

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: 00:51:57

A person that is loved, respected, cared,

and appreciated in more ways than one.

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Thanks for listening to episode

number 140 of Speaking From the

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Heart, and I look forward to

hearing from your heart, very soon.

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Outro: Thanks for listening.

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: 00:52:16

For more information about our podcast

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: 00:52:25

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: 00:52:31

services that can help you create

the best version of yourself.

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: 00:52:36

See you next time.