Episode #37 - Sharing Our STOP Stories: An Interview With Dan Armstrong

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Welcome to the podcast where relationships, confidence, and

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determination, all converge into an amazing, heartfelt experience.

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This is Speaking From The Heart.

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Welcome back to episode number 37 of Speaking From the Heart.

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Today we have another Toastmaster joining us.

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His name is Dan Armstrong, which again, I have the privilege of knowing him for

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many years, and I have seen him grown from where he was at, and he has been

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even a big inspiration for me and the story in which led to how we got to this

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podcast episode is something that we even talk about because it is something

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of, really, divine intervention in my view, but Dan is an author of several

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books, the first one being originally The Adventures of a Real Life Cable

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Guy, which we talk quite extensively about how that book got started.

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We also talk about his next book in which he wrote called Smart Dust: The Dawn

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of Transhumanism, which is a fictional novel that's based on real technology.

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Dan has been involved with many different types of podcasts.

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Most notably, he's been in the Los Angeles Tribune live podcast as a two-time guest.

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He's the co-author of two other books that went on to become bestselling in which one

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of them is called Think Big, and the other is Next Level Your Life, and they're both

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available on Amazon in which I will be able to provide to you in the show notes

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if you wanna take a listen and look at it, but, you also will be able to access

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Smart dust on Audible and also iTunes, wherever you listen to those platforms.

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Dan is somebody that I really didn't understand what his story was until we

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really dived into this episode, and I completely related to all the experiences

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that he went through as a child because I went through something quite similar

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myself, but especially when he was going to talk about his STOP acronym, it made

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me pause a little bit and think about all the different possibilities that we have

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in our lives to handle some of the things that we have as choices, and it isn't

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just about whether we take one path or another, but it's really about some of the

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things that other people see in ourselves that ultimately walk us down the path of

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not only true opportunity, but to realize that there is a glowing door every way

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that we go, that we are able to access.

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With that, let's go to the episode.

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All right.

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I'm here with Dan Armstrong.

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Dan, thanks for sharing your heart with us today.

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Hey, thanks Josh for having me today.

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It's always a pleasure to talk to you.

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It's been a while since I've seen you, but you look great and I love you, man.

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Oh, dude, I love you too.

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Folks, I want to say a few things about Dan before we even begin.

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I know that I've already shared a couple of those things before we even

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started, but Dan is somebody I got to know a number of years ago through

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Toastmasters, which for those, I know that you get tired of, keep hearing about

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Toastmasters, but Toastmasters is one of those organizations that have allowed me

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to have awesome people to connect with and even have this podcast in the first

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place, so if you're ever interested in checking out Toastmasters, I'm going

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to leave a link in the episode notes as always, but Dan has been somebody that

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has really influenced me in his journey to get to this point where he's at being

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so incredibly awesome with a lot of the stories that he has, so Dan, thanks

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for doing that right off the gate and I really mean that because I love you too.

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Dan, here's where I want to start off with, because you've written a

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number of books, and a lot of these are great books in which help to

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understand a little bit about you, but also go outside of just you.

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I want to learn a little bit more about this because it's always

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been a fascination for even me.

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What got you even started to be an author?

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Was there something that was an influence for you that maybe got you pushed into the

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right direction to do that, or was there something that you came across that you

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thought, "Man, I might give that a try?"

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Has there been anything like that?

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Can you share that with us?

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Well, Joshua, I was born with a cleft palate, so I didn't really learn

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to speak until I was 5, 6, 7 years old.

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I was a long time, still am a patient of the Lancaster Cleft Palate Clinic,

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and I was very withdrawn and shy, so my expression of creativity was through

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reading, and I remember the programs in elementary school called the SRA programs.

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They were color coded, and I was a fast reader.

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I loved the stories and I began writing my own stories at home, of course, they

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never got anywhere, but I loved to write, and as I got older and got into acting

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in junior high, got the lead role in a play, I can't believe I got it because

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I was still quite honestly, suffering from feeling that I was not worthy,

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because I had been bullied all my life, up until that point very, very much so.

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I remember us a time that I actually wrote about it in the

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bestselling book, Think Big.

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I wrote a chapter about being attacked on a playground and being

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held on the ground by some agraded older boys than than myself.

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They held me down, whether they knew it or not, I was over an ant hill, and the

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ants began to crawl inside my shirt and started biting me and stinging me, and

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of course I was crying, but they were laughing and mocking and spitting on

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me saying, "Spell your name, spell your name", and of course, every consonant

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that came out of my mouth was filled with air, because that's how a cleft palate

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works, so I was just really devastated.

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Finally a playground teacher yelled, "Get off boys; break it up", and I stood up

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and I started running to her side, and I was rapidly sweeping my body with my arms

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trying to get rid of these ants that were biting me, and I got to her side, and

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what I thought would be a voice of comfort was actually a voice of discouragement.

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She said, "What is wrong with you?"

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Oh.

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And I was devastated, and I don't remember much after that.

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I do remember curling up in a ball, like in a fetal position, and I remember my

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mother coming to the school, taking me home and putting me in a bath of Epsom

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salt to heal the wounds and she said to me, "Danny, someday you will help others.

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Someday your words will help others", and that surprised me because I couldn't

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speak words that well for her to say, "Someday your words will help others",

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that was a contradiction to the truth that I had known, so that healing process

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of being mocked and bullied took a long time, but when I reached junior high,

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an English teacher saw some potential in me and asked me to try out for a

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school play in which I did, and then I tried out for all the school plays

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thereafter in high school and got them.

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As for writing, I used to write little stories on my own, and after I graduated

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from high school, I was asked to be part of a band, a rock and roll Christian

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band, and I wrote songs for the band.

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After that I started writing one minute radio spots for a radio

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station that were original thoughts.

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They were called the Wacky Words of Dan Armstrong, and they played for six years

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and in that six year time period, I wrote over 1000 episodes of original material;

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quite a primer to where I am now.

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Yeah, and I'm only up to episode number 37 of doing this, so I

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definitely understand a lot more now of how he can do a thousand episodes.

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Well, I might get there at some point, and-

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You will.

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You've been a big cheerleader for even me doing this all along and

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just pushing me to keep on, keeping on.

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Dan, I want to talk about a little bit about the Wacky words of Dan

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Armstrong a little bit, because like you said, you did do that for six years.

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Is there something that stood out for you, knowing that you were part of that

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experience, doing those one minute shows?

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I mean, how would that format actually work, just to give

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a visual for our listeners?

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Well, first of all, the station manager called me.

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I had been in the band, the band was over, in 1987, and in 1991 he called me

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and said, "Hey, I remember you on stage telling stories", and I've always been a

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storyteller, "and I was wondering, Dan, if you would be interested in writing

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just that one minute spot with maybe some of your stories", so I assumed

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it would be one minute, that's it.

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One minute.

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He said, "Oh, no, no.

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I mean like maybe a regular thing.

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Maybe you could record five or ten one minute sections and we'll come up

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with a name and we'll help you out."

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Well, he came up with a name, the Wacky Words of Dan Armstrong, because

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they're kind of silly, but they always had a moral or a spiritual point.

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I sat down and wrote five or 10 of them and then I took them into the studio

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and they showed me how to operate their equipment and I recorded them and I

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thought, "Okay, I'm done; that's two weeks worth of shows: one minute Monday through

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Friday, 8:20 PM right after the weather."

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I thought, "Okay, that was fun", so I turned my back on it and after the

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first week aired he called me again and he said, "Hey Dan, we're getting

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a lot of positive feedback from your Wacky Words of Dan Armstrong.

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Would you be interested in writing another two weeks worth?", and I said, "Well,

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oh man, I don't know if I can do that.", and here's the thing, Joshua, you don't

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think you can do something until someone believes in you to ask it of you, and when

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he began to ask of me to dig deeper that what I thought I had in myself, it was the

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same motivation that my mother said to me in that bathtub of Epsom salt: "Your words

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will help some people someday", and when the station manager said, "Your words mean

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a lot to other people" it just brought this flower of creativity from my soul

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and my heart and my mind, and I couldn't stop producing these little one minute big

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nets of wisdom, words of encouragement, words of challenge, words of growth, words

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of just ways of living with each other.

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It continued for years and I couldn't believe it.

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When I look back, I cannot believe the amount of words that

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went out to help other people.

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It's encouraging to me to hear that because as I even told you

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over the years, sometimes we have that back and forth of ourselves

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"Should we do it, should we not?

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Should we do it, should we not?", and sometimes having those voices

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even in the back of our head from those past experiences, you talking

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about your mom, I thought of a sixth grade friend named John.

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John, if you're out there, thank you so much for being there

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for me when I needed it too.

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He was one of those people that always stood by my side all the way through

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middle school, high school, when even kids bullied me too, to get to the point

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of where I was able to go to college, be able to meet some incredible people

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that influenced me as well, so it's all about not only those connections, but

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those indirect connections too, speaking of which, we really talked a lot even

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before the show about some of the things that you've had indirect connection

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with that really helped to launch even some of the works that you do now,

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which I'm going to dig into a couple of them with you later on, but can you

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talk about a little bit of the people indirectly that you never thought in a

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million years would be saying, "Hey, you have these words of influence over me.

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I would love to help you out."

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Can you share maybe a couple examples of some people that have done that for you?

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Sure.

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When I was about 28 years old, maybe 30 years old, a life insurance agent,

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he was a friend of mine, handed me an audio cassette program by Dr.

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Dennis Waitley called The Psychology of Winning.

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I listened to this cassette series over and over, and then it introduced

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me to some other legends and icons now of their personal development field

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like Jim Rohn and Brian Tracy and Les Brown, and Zig Ziglar and these iconic

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speakers and coaches were my mentors and I never met them, I never would

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dream of meeting them, and then back in November 1st, 2021, I had, by this

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time I had already written two books.

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I wrote something on Facebook and the promoter, the man who made

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Jim Rohn famous, commented on my post, and there's a story behind

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that how we actually connected on Facebook through another person

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that was connected to my first book.

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It's all very serendipitous.

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Needless to say, I was honored that he would reached down into my world

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and touched my life and he invited me to a Zoom meeting with him and

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he asked me if I wanted to write a chapter in his next book, and he has

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manufactured over a hundred bestselling products, from audio tapes, books.

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Anyway, I said, "Yeah", and some of the authors in this book, the co-authors like

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Brian Tracy, one of the iconic legends of personal development and sales training,

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Brian Tracy is one of the co-authors, and Chris Grankowski, who played for Dallas

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Cowboys, he was Shark Tank winner; he's a partner with Mark Cuban of Shark Tank.

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He is also a co-author; I've met him twice now in the home of Kyle Wilson, the

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promoter of Jim Rohn, and Kyle is one of those guys that is, I always say as humble

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as he is great, and there are people like that in our lives that we need to honor

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and recognize they're no better than us.

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They're no worse than us, but they deserve our respect for who they

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are and what they've accomplished.

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I want to say something to that, Dan, because-

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Sure.

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That is so true in that these are all people that we have in our lives that

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oftentimes we think, "We're never going to be like them", and I was even telling you

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that, even before the show about some of those people as well, and it's fascinating

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to me that in some of my earlier episodes, which I had several guests on, we talked

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about some of that human connection-

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Yeah.

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Because that's really a big benefit for being able to do a

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lot of those things in our lives.

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Keep going though.

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I'm sorry to interrupt because I just wanted to share that with you

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because I think it's so important, especially in this world today.

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Oh, that's okay.

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I have to tell you, I went out to Texas to meet and to become part of this,

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what's called the inner circle, and I was sitting in this Dallas, Fort Worth

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Convention Center in this hotel room, and there might have been 40 of us

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around this long rectangle room sitting around these tables, and I was sitting

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there listening to their stories and listening to the lives and the advice,

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the counsel, the financial input, and saying to myself, "Why am I here?

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Who am I to be part of this group?", and at the end of the day, Kyle

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looked over at me and he says, "Dan's first time in the group is today,

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and Dan is an author of two books.

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How many people in this room have written a book?", and a couple people

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raised their hand and said, "How many people have written two books?", and

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nobody else raised their hand, and he says, "Dan is an outlier.", and it was

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such a compliment in front of all these people, most of them very well off.

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Some of them were worth a hundred to $200 million.

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I'm not kidding you.

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Wow.

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Some of them are connected to people that if I said their names, you wouldn't

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believe it, and they're one step away from really royalty and politicians and

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world leaders and I'm in this room with these people and that whole imposter

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syndrome of why am I here, came over me, but by the end of the day, here's the

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greatest thing that I took away from that day, and I'll never forget it, Joshua.

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I'll never forget it.

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Here are these people who are worth, in earthly terms, way more than

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me, and I realized how humble and hurting they were, despite all the

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accomplishments they had, the room was brutal when it came to vulnerability.

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There was an open door of authenticity that could be shared without judgment,

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without contempt, and at the end of the day, Kyle looked at me and

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said, "what do you think, Dan?", and I said, "I'm amazed that everyone

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in this room sits on a toilet."

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Oh my gosh.

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Yes.

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The room erupted in laughter and I didn't feel ashamed that I said it,

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and I said, "It is amazing and truly amazing to me to meet all you people and

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feel the love and humility above all."

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The care that they gave me and showered on me that my wealth was not in financial

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terms, but in spiritual, emotional, terms of just being in the group, and

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it was a very authentic way so I didn't feel like an imposter, I felt like I

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belonged and they made me feel that way, and I think what we do is we look

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at people like this and say, "oh, I'll never measure up", well, guess what?

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They will never measure up to you.

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You are the one who is uniquely made, Joshua.

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There will never be another person like you.

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You are uniquely crafted, gifted, created, to do something that I can't

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do, and I am crafted, created, gifted to do something you will never do

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so when we compare with each other, we are actually harming ourselves.

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We are hindering the path, the destiny, the fate that we are supposed to take.

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That is really important to not only continuously give that

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feedback because, Dan, I feel like I do that for clients as being able to

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open that door of being vulnerable, being authentic, being able to say,

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"It doesn't matter where you are.

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I want you to feel comfortable and knowing that you are valued in this",

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and some people are completely broken when it comes to that, and I've shared

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with my listeners, I've shared with you the many years of that struggle myself

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getting to that point because this is an excellent turning point for me because I

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want to talk about your very first book you wrote, which, just to remind the

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audience the book that you first wrote was The Adventures Of A Real Life Cable Guy.

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Now Dan, I'm sure that everybody always has this question first.

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Were you really a cable guy?

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Was that your profession?

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Yeah, so I started as a cable guy when I was 20 years old and within

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five years I believe it was, I was a master technician in the sense that

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I took all the courses and I knew all the stuff, but it never stopped.

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There was always more and more because the industry expanded, but I stayed with

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the industry with a couple little off branches of doing something else for a

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year or two and then coming back to cable, so about 37 years, minus maybe five or

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six years of doing some other things.

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See, I was a cable guy for over 30 years.

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During that time, I would come home and tell my wife, or if I saw some friends,

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"You'll never believe what happened to me today", because the homes of America

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are filled with real life, daytime soap operas, and there is no filter.

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There is no cameras and no cut.

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You are literally in the fray of real life.

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I wrote the book, The Adventures of a Real Life Cable Guy, and I handed it over to

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an editor; now this is 2013, and this is when we had discs, and about three, four

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months later, I called the editor and I said, "How's it going with the book?", and

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she said, "Oh, I have some terrible news."

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I said, "What's that?"

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She goes, "I lost it."

Joshua: 00:21:41

Oh.

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In that meantime, I guess my computer had crashed, so I was wanting

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to get the disc back from her to make a copy, and she had lost it.

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I was devastated because I had written a book and it was gone,

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and so- I talk about perseverance and diligence, but also depression.

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I went six months, I couldn't even think about it, and then

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my wife said, "You've got it.

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You got to start over", so I did.

Joshua: 00:22:10

So, so just to clarify, this book that eventually got published

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is actually the second rendition?

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The original-

Dan: 00:22:18

Yes.

Joshua: 00:22:18

Is no longer in existence.

Joshua: 00:22:19

You've never been able to find the first copy of what you wrote?

Dan: 00:22:22

It's gone.

Joshua: 00:22:22

Wow.

Dan: 00:22:22

It's gone.

Joshua: 00:22:23

Oh.

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Yeah.

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There's the book that came out in 2015 that was highlighted.

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I was interviewed on ABC Good Day PA; live interview about the book.

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It is in 10 or 12 countries.

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It's in about 40 states in the union, maybe more.

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It's traveled all over the world with other people who take pictures of it while

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they're traveling, which is hilarious, but I had to rewrite the entire book, and

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I think it was something that had to be done to develop perseverance and a sense

Dan: 00:23:00

of belonging to what I was supposed to do.

Dan: 00:23:02

A craft I was supposed to hone.

Dan: 00:23:05

Yeah, I rewrote the book, the entire thing and maybe it's better

Dan: 00:23:09

than the first one, who knows?

Joshua: 00:23:11

We will never know, but-

Dan: 00:23:12

We will never know.

Joshua: 00:23:13

But I'm curious, because you just said that maybe that

Joshua: 00:23:16

gave you the effort to persevere.

Joshua: 00:23:19

Do you think that if losing that first copy would've never happened,

Joshua: 00:23:23

do you think that you would've been doing what you're doing now?

Joshua: 00:23:26

I mean, I know I'm asking you this hypothetical, but I'm really

Joshua: 00:23:29

curious, what are your thoughts?

Dan: 00:23:31

Well, that's a great question.

Dan: 00:23:33

I think that when we run into obstacles like this, and I have a

Dan: 00:23:38

whole acronym about this, S T O P, when we run into obstacles like this.

Dan: 00:23:43

If we don't have things like this, It doesn't develop character in us, so

Dan: 00:23:48

perhaps if the first book was written, maybe I would've been satisfied with

Dan: 00:23:52

it, I don't know, but what it did for me is when I started to write my

Dan: 00:23:56

second book, which is a novel, which is 600 pages, then maybe I wouldn't have

Dan: 00:24:02

been able to persevere through that' that design, that development, and

Dan: 00:24:07

that determination to get that done.

Dan: 00:24:11

Having to write two books before one is published creates a strength

Dan: 00:24:18

that came from a struggle, really.

Joshua: 00:24:20

You said the acronym STOP.

Joshua: 00:24:22

Can you elaborate a little bit on what each letter stands for with STOP?

Dan: 00:24:26

Sure.

Dan: 00:24:27

I speak to groups.

Dan: 00:24:28

I'm open for speaking engagements: youth groups, college groups, churches.

Dan: 00:24:34

STOP.

Dan: 00:24:35

You have to sometimes you have to stop and you have to look at your struggle and ask

Dan: 00:24:39

yourself, where is the strength from it?

Dan: 00:24:44

T is tragedy and then triumph.

Dan: 00:24:49

How can I triumph from this tragedy?

Dan: 00:24:53

O is obstacle, and of course that is overcome.

Dan: 00:24:57

How can I overcome this obstacle?

Dan: 00:24:59

The P is a little more involved.

Dan: 00:25:02

P is for pain, but what is the purpose of this pain?

Dan: 00:25:05

Can I turn my pain into a passion?

Dan: 00:25:07

Can I turn my pain into a plan?

Dan: 00:25:10

Can I turn my pain into a way of perseverance?

Dan: 00:25:14

Joshua, I think about you.

Dan: 00:25:15

I've followed you for years.

Dan: 00:25:17

You took your pain and you turned it into a passion.

Dan: 00:25:20

You've turned it into a project.

Dan: 00:25:22

You've turned your pain into a podcast.

Dan: 00:25:23

How's that?

Joshua: 00:25:24

Yeah.

Dan: 00:25:24

So P is just wide open, but I think when people go through a

Dan: 00:25:29

struggle and like I did with a cleft palate and being bullied and mocked

Dan: 00:25:34

and then traveling all through the country, but then losing my first

Dan: 00:25:38

book, that's a struggle to go through that, but what was the strength of it?

Dan: 00:25:42

Well, the strength made me a more dedicated writer.

Dan: 00:25:46

Someone who wants to create, more of his content.

Joshua: 00:25:52

Has it helped you not only in persevering with writing, but maybe other

Joshua: 00:25:56

facets of your life too, like, has it helped you to create maybe things that in

Joshua: 00:26:02

other areas maybe you haven't been able to do before, because you just mentioned

Joshua: 00:26:06

about the public speaking, which we didn't even get into talking about Toastmasters,

Joshua: 00:26:10

maybe we won't because I think that just the things that have helped you to get to

Joshua: 00:26:14

this point, I think that there's always building blocks, and you even mentioned

Joshua: 00:26:19

the fact for me, being able to open Your Speaking Voice, the business that I have,

Joshua: 00:26:23

and even doing this podcast, Speaking From The Heart, these are all byproducts.

Joshua: 00:26:27

What has been your biggest motivation going into all these different paths that

Joshua: 00:26:31

you've been in and being able to say to yourself, "Wow, because I was able to

Joshua: 00:26:37

write, I was able to do all these other things", has there been a motivation

Joshua: 00:26:41

to do other things as a result of this?

Dan: 00:26:46

I think some of it comes from a deep desire to really

Dan: 00:26:54

touch, help heal other people.

Dan: 00:26:58

I have learned over time to, are you ready for this?

Dan: 00:27:03

This is a title of one of my speeches.

Dan: 00:27:05

Are you ready?

Joshua: 00:27:06

I'm sitting down.

Joshua: 00:27:06

Go ahead.

Dan: 00:27:07

All right, you ready?

Dan: 00:27:08

Be aware of your presence in the lives of other people.

Dan: 00:27:12

Be aware of your presence in the lives of other people, and that is to say,

Dan: 00:27:17

when you are in a room, if you're in a restaurant, if you are in a church at

Dan: 00:27:21

temple, if you're in a club, be aware of who you are in their lives because they

Dan: 00:27:28

may be looking at you in a moment of their weakness and need your strength.

Dan: 00:27:34

When I am aware of my presence, I can serve other people without looking for

Dan: 00:27:40

something in return, so I think to answer your question, and it may sound somewhat

Dan: 00:27:47

mystical, it's all about being able and understanding that other people need

Dan: 00:27:57

to be served, and when you serve other people, it really does come back to you.

Dan: 00:28:04

It really does come back to you.

Dan: 00:28:06

There's a saying you can count the apples in a seed, but you

Dan: 00:28:11

cannot count the apples in a seed.

Dan: 00:28:17

Let me say that again.

Dan: 00:28:20

You can count the seeds in an apple, but you cannot count the apples in a seed,

Dan: 00:28:26

and that is to say, yeah, my action, you may see it, but what is the result?

Dan: 00:28:33

When I plant a few seeds of corn and I get a stalk, how many more

Dan: 00:28:38

kernels of corn are there now because I have sew into someone's life?

Dan: 00:28:43

The ripples and reverberations through time and history will never

Dan: 00:28:48

be seen by me, and that's okay.

Dan: 00:28:51

I'm okay with that.

Joshua: 00:28:53

Dan, I love that statement because I actually think about some of the

Joshua: 00:28:57

things that I've been doing in my life, and it's even outside of the business.

Joshua: 00:29:00

I've been on a nonprofit board in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania for over seven

Joshua: 00:29:05

years, where I help women to not only get back on their feet, especially after

Joshua: 00:29:10

they go through domestic violence or have some unique situation that happens

Joshua: 00:29:14

to them, but it has really helped them to see not only the opportunities

Joshua: 00:29:20

that are presented in front of them, but to get the confidence to be able

Joshua: 00:29:23

to do that, and for the organization that I'm talking about specifically,

Joshua: 00:29:27

it's called the Shalom House.

Joshua: 00:29:29

It's in the Allison Hills section of Harrisburg.

Joshua: 00:29:32

If anybody's ever interested in donating any money to that cause it's the most

Joshua: 00:29:36

beautiful thing that they do to help.

Joshua: 00:29:38

People just get back to where they need to be, and it isn't just about

Joshua: 00:29:42

getting them on their feet and pushing them out, it's about making sure that

Joshua: 00:29:45

they never have to go back into it.

Joshua: 00:29:47

That's really the biggest important thing, because the recidivism relating to that

Joshua: 00:29:51

is so huge, so I'm going to leave a link in the episode notes in case you ever want

Joshua: 00:29:55

to donate anything relating to that, and Dan, I want to slowly wrap up and ask

Joshua: 00:30:01

you a question that's really personal.

Joshua: 00:30:03

I think it's really more personal than maybe I've asked other guests,

Joshua: 00:30:06

because all the things that you've talked about, I got to say this.

Joshua: 00:30:11

For some people it is about helping other people, serving those other

Joshua: 00:30:15

people, to use your words specifically, because we do that in business,

Joshua: 00:30:20

we do that in our personal lives, we do that in our professional

Joshua: 00:30:24

lives; they're all interconnected.

Joshua: 00:30:28

Did you ever think that a kid that had cleft problems would ever get to a point

Joshua: 00:30:33

that would be able to say, "Yeah, I can be successful?", and if you can say that,

Joshua: 00:30:40

which I know the answer to already and you do too, what would you say to someone

Joshua: 00:30:45

else that is going through something like that and is struggling to just get over

Joshua: 00:30:49

that teasing, that barrier that they might be feeling, that they're artificially

Joshua: 00:30:54

putting in front of themselves.

Joshua: 00:30:56

What would you say to somebody like that?

Dan: 00:31:00

I so wished that I could go back in time and pick up that little boy that was

Dan: 00:31:07

held over an ant hill, and tell him that you are going to be a public speaker.

Dan: 00:31:13

You are going to be in a band.

Dan: 00:31:15

You're going to talk to tens of thousands of people.

Dan: 00:31:18

You're going to use your mouth, you're going to use your ears.

Dan: 00:31:21

I wish I could go back and tell him that he's going to write two books

Dan: 00:31:27

and become a bestselling author.

Dan: 00:31:30

He would never have believed me, but what he would've believed is a hug and

Dan: 00:31:38

a word of encouragement, that little bit that we can give to other people.

Dan: 00:31:43

The big, grandiose ideas of, "Oh, you might be president one day",

Dan: 00:31:47

or, "You might be a doctor", or whatever, that is not what someone

Dan: 00:31:55

in my place needed to hear.

Dan: 00:31:57

What I needed to hear was, you are special, you are gifted,

Dan: 00:32:02

and you're going to make it.

Dan: 00:32:04

You're going to make it.

Dan: 00:32:05

You're going to make it.

Dan: 00:32:07

I think that solid encouragement, those simple words are what seek and sink in

Dan: 00:32:16

deeper into the heart and soul of anyone.

Dan: 00:32:20

It's, "You can do it.

Dan: 00:32:21

You are special, you are loved.

Dan: 00:32:25

I believe in you", and I think I had to say that is what I

Dan: 00:32:29

would say to someone who's going through something of that nature.

Dan: 00:32:36

Each one of us have an incredible amount of ability and capability

Dan: 00:32:43

that can be developed through determination and discipline, if we

Dan: 00:32:50

say one thing that is two words, "I believe, I believe", and you know what?

Dan: 00:32:58

You don't even have to answer the words that come after, I believe.

Dan: 00:33:03

Just say, "I believe.

Dan: 00:33:05

I believe", and rest, and the answers will come to you.

Dan: 00:33:10

I know it.

Dan: 00:33:12

They came to me.

Joshua: 00:33:13

I'm sitting here and I'm thinking to myself: small kid, growing up,

Joshua: 00:33:19

being obese, overweight, being teased.

Joshua: 00:33:22

I asked myself that question just now that you asked: "Do I believe I really

Joshua: 00:33:29

want to hug that kid?", And I, for the longest time, Dan, I never was able to do

Joshua: 00:33:34

that because that kid had so much trauma and things happening that I never really

Joshua: 00:33:40

believed in what I could potentially become, and those are the voices I heard

Joshua: 00:33:45

for over 30 years before I finally, as I have shared even my listeners on this

Joshua: 00:33:50

podcast, about my breakdown about that struggle to crawl myself back out of the

Joshua: 00:33:55

abyss to get back to where I'm at, and I always wanted to hear someone say, "I

Joshua: 00:34:00

believe", and yeah, my parents had done that, but that wasn't just enough for me.

Joshua: 00:34:06

I needed to hear a lot more, and for you to say that, it is the most

Joshua: 00:34:12

authentic thing in itself because you have been consistent with that, knowing

Joshua: 00:34:18

you for the many years that I have known you, but more importantly, above

Joshua: 00:34:22

all else, I sense that in the emotion that you are thinking about this and

Joshua: 00:34:27

how you've answered these questions, I think that's been really important

Joshua: 00:34:31

for me to really gather and absorb, and I truly appreciate you doing that.

Joshua: 00:34:37

Dan, I'm going to give you the last few minutes.

Joshua: 00:34:39

Tell us how we can get any copies of the four books that you have out there.

Joshua: 00:34:43

I mean, two of the books I know you have several co-authors on, but

Joshua: 00:34:47

you're still part of the book overall.

Joshua: 00:34:49

How can we get you as a public speaker if we want to book you?

Joshua: 00:34:52

I'm sure there's some people thinking, "I want Dan", so I'm going

Joshua: 00:34:56

to give you the last few minutes.

Joshua: 00:34:57

Please, tell us how we can reach out to you.

Dan: 00:35:00

Thank you, Joshua.

Dan: 00:35:01

I have a website.

Dan: 00:35:02

It's DanArmstrongTheAuthor.com, DanArmstrongTheAuthor.com, and you can

Dan: 00:35:09

go on there and there are links for The Adventures of a Real Life Cable

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The Dawn of Transhumanism, and the book Think Big.

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There's Amazon links there, and Next Level Your Life can be found on Amazon.

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There might be some same titles of different books, but it would have 10

Guy, my novel Smart Dust: 00:35:31

pictures of people on the cover, and that would be the one, Next Level Your Life.

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My email is DanArmstrongAuthor@gmail.com; DanArmstrongAuthor@gmail.com.

Guy, my novel Smart Dust: 00:35:43

Website, DanArmstrongTheAuthor.com, and I am available.

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You contact me, even on the website, you can send me a contact and that'll

Guy, my novel Smart Dust: 00:35:56

go through, and when we opened up this program, Joshua, I said, "I

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love you man", and I would close out the program saying, I love you man

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again, and also, I believe in you.

Guy, my novel Smart Dust: 00:36:10

I've seen tremendous growth, and with growth comes responsibility, and you are

Guy, my novel Smart Dust: 00:36:17

actually fulfilling the responsibility of your talents and your gifts by

Guy, my novel Smart Dust: 00:36:24

allowing people to enter into your sphere, your life, your influence,

Guy, my novel Smart Dust: 00:36:30

and be impacted by the testimony of your life, so I am grateful for you.

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I love you, man.

Joshua: 00:36:40

You pour into me, Dan, and as I said in one episode where I had

Joshua: 00:36:44

a guest that really poured into me too, I said, when I wrapped it up,

Joshua: 00:36:50

it's about really how much currency we're really giving to each other.

Joshua: 00:36:54

You're giving me $10 million of content just by being part of this, and I know,

Joshua: 00:36:59

vice versa, I'm doing the same thing for you, and that's what this is all about.

Joshua: 00:37:04

You have me in tears.

Joshua: 00:37:05

I'm literally like wiping back tears right now because of what you have

Joshua: 00:37:09

been, and you are somebody that has always lived that life, even through

Joshua: 00:37:16

your cable guy experiences, even through all those experiences growing

Joshua: 00:37:20

up, I really enjoyed our conversation.

Joshua: 00:37:23

I really enjoyed having you as part of Speaking From The Heart, and I

Joshua: 00:37:27

want to share this to close out too.

Joshua: 00:37:31

I had imposter syndrome because I wasn't sure if Dan would ever

Joshua: 00:37:35

want to be on my podcast, and I had this conversation in my head.

Joshua: 00:37:40

Literally a few minutes after I had that conversation in my head, Dan

Joshua: 00:37:43

messages me and says, Hey, there's a podcast I see that you started.

Joshua: 00:37:46

Do you need guests?

Joshua: 00:37:47

I would love to be part of your show", and I'm like, "Dan, how did you know that this

Joshua: 00:37:53

was running through my head?", so Dan, thank you for speaking from the heart.

Joshua: 00:37:58

I love you too.

Dan: 00:38:00

Yep.

Dan: 00:38:01

Love you buddy.

Joshua: 00:38:03

I want to thank Dan again for being part of this incredible experience

Joshua: 00:38:07

that I continue to have, and it makes me even want to pause and think about all the

Joshua: 00:38:13

different people that have been pouring into my life with these interviews and

Joshua: 00:38:19

have been able to share with me some of the most unique experiences that sometimes

Joshua: 00:38:25

we take for granted as being really the epiphanies of our lives, the pivotal

Joshua: 00:38:31

moments in which change everything, and Dan, with his cleft palate and dealing

Joshua: 00:38:38

with all the different types of words of discouragement that he's heard all

Joshua: 00:38:42

throughout his life, especially early on, it really resonates with the fact

Joshua: 00:38:47

that sometimes all it takes is just one person to completely and utterly

Joshua: 00:38:53

change our course, and I love the fact that he talks about in this episode

Joshua: 00:38:59

about the things that make up us.

Joshua: 00:39:03

Being able to have that vulnerability, to have that authenticity is something that

Joshua: 00:39:10

many authors have talked about in even their own works, which I specifically

Joshua: 00:39:15

think about Brene Brown's Daring Greatly, one of the most incredible books that

Joshua: 00:39:20

have ever moved my life and made me break down even as a male and cry,

which let's face it: 00:39:26

it doesn't matter what gender you are, you definitely are

which let's face it: 00:39:33

human and you feel the emotion of just having to overcome those inadequacies

which let's face it: 00:39:40

about whatever that is that goes through our lives, but that's the deal.

which let's face it: 00:39:46

Those are the things that sometimes we are trying to go through when it comes

which let's face it: 00:39:50

to not only the things that we have as opportunities, but sometimes it even

which let's face it: 00:39:57

creates some of the things that we never expect happen, especially doing

which let's face it: 00:40:03

all those different one minute shows that we have on the radio, which I love

which let's face it: 00:40:09

that Dan even has that experience when he was encouraged to try out for the

which let's face it: 00:40:16

school play, despite all those different things that have happened in his life.

which let's face it: 00:40:22

It all takes one thing, one person, one activity to completely change the

which let's face it: 00:40:28

landscape of what we can potentially become and what we can be able to

which let's face it: 00:40:33

do for ourselves and for others.

which let's face it: 00:40:36

That makes it so valuable that we are able to see and create maybe the career

which let's face it: 00:40:44

path that we can go down, and although we can always have a daytime soap opera

which let's face it: 00:40:52

happening in our own backyard and even in our own lives when it comes to those

which let's face it: 00:40:57

different types of things, I think that for Dan, being able to see those

which let's face it: 00:41:02

experiences made him realize that he can be humble about it, and I think

which let's face it: 00:41:07

he's the most incredibly humble person when it comes to all these different

which let's face it: 00:41:11

things that have happened in his life.

which let's face it: 00:41:14

Even if he disagrees with this or not, when he listens to this, I think that he

which let's face it: 00:41:19

understands that it's all about creating that value, and I think he's created

which let's face it: 00:41:25

that value in the numerous works, which I continue to read every time that he's

which let's face it: 00:41:30

working on his schedule to work on the different things that he has because he

which let's face it: 00:41:35

is an avid writer, he loves the ability to create that opportunity for content.

which let's face it: 00:41:44

He has passion.

which let's face it: 00:41:47

He's able to be aware of the presence of the lives of other people, to be able to

which let's face it: 00:41:52

connect, to be able to learn and expose what we truly are deep inside, and that's

which let's face it: 00:41:58

why sharing Dan's unique encounter with me when we were able to both think at the

which let's face it: 00:42:05

same time that we really wanted to be on this show together to talk about these

which let's face it: 00:42:10

opportunities really was a bond of love.

which let's face it: 00:42:16

A bond of brothership.

which let's face it: 00:42:18

A bond of something that I never thought in a million years I would meet somebody

which let's face it: 00:42:22

so able to understand through those words that he uses, how he creates that whole

which let's face it: 00:42:30

entire process for himself and others.

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His acronym STOP of being able to use strength, triumph, obstacle, and pain

which let's face it: 00:42:41

to overcome the variety of different things that happen in our lives is

which let's face it: 00:42:45

just a testament to the overall picture that he has created in this episode

which let's face it: 00:42:50

about not only the things that we can overcome, but the things that make up us.

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Do you always have those STOP moments?

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Do you always have those things that maybe hold us back from being

which let's face it: 00:43:05

able to see who you truly are?

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We all have a wall in which we defend ourselves.

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It's usually those first encounters.

which let's face it: 00:43:15

I'm sure that for many of us that are married, we can look back at

which let's face it: 00:43:18

the times in which we were single, meeting someone for the first time,

which let's face it: 00:43:23

getting to know each other, but there was also the cautionary wall.

which let's face it: 00:43:28

The wall in which we're not going to open up our feelings and our

which let's face it: 00:43:31

emotions and our connections because we wanted to understand them more.

which let's face it: 00:43:35

We wanted to create that bond of trust.

which let's face it: 00:43:39

We have to have encouragement in order to move on to that next stage, in order

which let's face it: 00:43:45

to understand what that other person is going through, and what they're saying,

which let's face it: 00:43:49

and especially in this world that we live in, we strive for that connection more

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than ever before even with artificial intelligence on the rise, even with

which let's face it: 00:43:58

technology allows us to connect from far reaches of the globe no matter what

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it is, no matter what is ahead for us in the future as a human race, I think

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that even in his book, Smart Dust, it truly depicts what we could have as a

which let's face it: 00:44:17

livable future, but we need to believe.

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We need to believe not only in ourselves, but in the people that we

which let's face it: 00:44:28

are surrounded with, and that's what I believe in what Dan's authentic

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conversation with me was all about.

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He was the original conversationist that allowed me to understand what

which let's face it: 00:44:40

I was potentially able to become.

which let's face it: 00:44:43

He believed in me even before I believed in myself.

which let's face it: 00:44:46

He was the one that understood more than anything else in which that was

which let's face it: 00:44:50

the unbreakable bond of love that I think both Dan and I share, so yes,

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Dan, I am preaching to the choir.

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I am preaching that.

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Do you have somebody in your life like that though, my fellow audience members?

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Do you have that person that you can connect with?

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It doesn't have to be romantic.

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It doesn't have to be this strong, brotherly love that I have for Dan.

which let's face it: 00:45:21

No way; but it has to be something because we all crave it, and

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one episode we've already talked about how we're social creatures;

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the late Aristotle even said so.

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He might have meant that in the political realm, but he also can apply

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that to even the things that we do to govern ourselves and each other.

which let's face it: 00:45:47

The late Jerry Springer would even tell us the same in which we take

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care of each other, but I think that's really the point, is that that's the

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universal bond that connects everything together, which is why I have clients

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that walk through the door, sit on the very couch that I have in front

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of my computer, in which I listen and take notes, and I share that pain.

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I share that triumph.

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I share those words of encouragement.

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I share those faults.

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I share the goals I live, and breathe with what those people

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are that truly want that change.

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That is what we really want because somebody or something ruined it for us.

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I think of Dan's teacher and I think of all the teachers that have

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surrounded me over the last several years of my life that have helped

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create the best version of who I am.

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The person that's always curious about what's on the news and what's reading

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next so that we can learn more, we can have a thoughtful, conscientious dialogue.

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Dan's library, in which you were not able to see, is something of impeccable

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character and defines what even he is: an avid lifelong learner, willing to

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continue to be the presence in other people's lives, and I think that's why

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it's so important to have that connection, especially with people that are struggling

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the most, even those people that I get to have the opportunity to work with

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at the Shalom House as a board member.

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Don't let one voice of discouragement take you all the way back to your childhood and

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hold you back from the unlimited potential that you have yet to write in your own

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story, because your story is not done yet.

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Your story has yet to be written because the many pages that will follow

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no matter what it was in the past, has some amazing content about you.

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It's up to you to pick up the pen and to continue writing.

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It's up to you to continue to seek out the help that is desperately needed in

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many of our lives, but most importantly, even if you have it all together, if

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you help just one more person, imagine the unlimited impact even if they're so

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far away, because they are watching you.

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They do care about you.

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They want to see you be successful, because you, to them, are the

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greatest thing that's ever happened.

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Thanks for listening to episode number 37 of Speaking from the

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Heart, and I look forward to hearing from your heart very soon.

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