Episode #40 - Service With Not Only A Smile: An Interview With Jenn Dusart

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Welcome to the podcast where relationships, confidence, and

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determination, all converge into an amazing, heartfelt experience.

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This is Speaking From The Heart.

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Welcome back to episode number 40 of Speaking From the Heart.

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Today we have Jenn Dusart, who will be joining us on the show.

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Now, Jen is not your average personal trainer.

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She has worked with clients to achieve something bigger than just the number on

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the scale, and she helps anyone develop true confidence, which includes a deep

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knowledge about body, energy, and strength clients did not even know that they had.

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In short, her goal is to bring happiness, confidence, balance,

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freedom, and a brand new friend.

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With Jen, she actually works one-on-one with people along with her staff, to

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take a deep breath and begin with a very first step in their fitness journey

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as it unfolds, which her mission, which is really a big part of what

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we talk about in today's episode, is about her heart and believing that

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her clients can believe in themselves.

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While working out is the catalyst for her happiness, jen's focus is

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on fostering joy in people's lives.

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Her business located in Mechanicsburg, Pennsylvania has adapted the practice

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of being accessible also, providing virtual training sessions, so that she

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can assist anyone anywhere in the world.

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She has a son, which she talks a little bit about, who is 20 years old, has made

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the Dean's List, and is almost a junior at Gettysburg College, where he would

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like to be an attorney for the NAACP.

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I think that this is really one of those guests that represent and embody

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the opportunities that Speaking From The Heart has provided, and even has

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shown for so many different people of what it takes to be able to create

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not only the people that we truly care about, but even the influences of

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the people that we truly care about.

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With that, let's go to the episode.

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All right, we're here with Jenn Dusart.

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Jenn, thanks for sharing your heart with us today.

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Hi, Josh.

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Thank you so much for having me.

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I'm super excited to be here tonight.

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I have to tell you the audience this just from the get go.

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Jenn was one of those people that instantly, right away, reached out

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to me and said, "I fit everything that you're looking for on this.

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I really want to be part of this.

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Will you please, please, please, please, please.

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I got something really interesting to share that I think your audience

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would really love", and I'm like "Sold to the highest bidder", so-

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Yeah, I'm not really sure I gave you an option.

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No, you didn't, but you know what?

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Those are the people that I know have a very authentic story and have a

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lot to share, so I want to say thank you from the forefront with just our

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conversations that we've had even beforehand, but Jenn, I want to start

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off by asking this question because I've already let the audience know about what

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you do, your business and everything.

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I want to ask you, what got you started as being a personal trainer

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in the first place, because I know we've had some conversations.

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You showed me a photo and I'm not going to really go into that photo

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right now because I'm sure that you can describe it for our audience,

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but what led you down that path?

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So, oddly enough, I never thought this was anywhere I would end up.

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After high school, bounced around for a little while, did some odd jobs,

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ended up getting married and having a son, and was a stay-at-home mom

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for eight years, which was amazing.

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The absolute highlight of my life.

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My son is now 20 and I could go all day about him.

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He is just fantastic, but when he was like three or four years old,

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we joined the local YMCA and I started taking a kickboxing class.

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I had been athletic in high school, had been a swimmer, was actually like pretty

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good at it, but you know, life took over.

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Partying was a lot of fun and food was good, so I ate a lot of fast food.

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I didn't have very good eating habits and unfortunately here

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as a mom, now, I'm trying to figure out how to feed my family.

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We go to the Y, I start taking a kickboxing class, and for about the

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first six weeks, I marched in the back of the room while everybody else did

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the class, but the reason that I stayed was there was the instructor, her name

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was Karen, and she took an interest in each and every person in that room,

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and she asked about your stories.

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She learned your name.

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She learned about your family.

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She noticed if you weren't there; asked if you were on vacation, but

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for me, she stood in the back of the room with me; I'm probably gonna

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cry for half of every class in the beginning, because I couldn't do it.

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I knew I needed to do something, but I was so out of shape I couldn't

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do it, and so, oddly enough, over the first couple of months and then

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years, I started to become more fit.

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My eating habits were still an issue, but I got pretty athletic and fit again.

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She needed to get a job and so she needed a full-time job for her family,

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so I mentored with her to become a part-time instructor for her class,

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just to sub from time to time and fill in when she had to go to work.

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I fell in love with teaching.

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I can remember as a kid, and my dad has been deceased for about 20

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years now, but we made a bet when I was a kid for a dollar that I would

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be a teacher when I was a grownup.

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He was like, "There's no way you're going to be a teacher",

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and I'm like, "I don't know.

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I am", and it's not the conventional kind but my whole mission and passion

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in my life and in my business is to take every big mistake I've made, every

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life lesson that I have learned, and I only learn things the hard way, and be

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so awkwardly transparent and vulnerable to share it with other people, to show

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them that, "Look, you can absolutely do it right", just like the conversation

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we had about your friend who may not be somebody who would think is fitnessy now,

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but hey, five years from now, who knows?

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I started my career as a computer programmer, and then after being

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a stay-at-home mom, my skillset was obsolete, so I had to do

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something else, so stay at home mom started as a fitness instructor.

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Thank goodness for Zumba Fitness.

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I have that personality that I fill a room and I can lead a whole bunch of

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people and so I got trained to lead that and for years had a super great

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time teaching classes in the area with great instructors, and people mentored

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me, people took me under their wing.

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I had to get continuing education credits in this industry, that's something you

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have to do every two years to keep your certifications current, so one of the

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things that I could do was to take the personal trainer certification, and that

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would keep my group fitness certification current, but also give me something else.

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I didn't realize at the time I was starting this path of layering one

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thing on top of the other to build this empire that I am excited about

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building and my life right now.

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Once I took the personal trainer exam and passed it amazingly

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flying colors, not amazingly, but I had amazing flying colors on it.

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I fell into working in this other guy's personal training studio and he saw my

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work ethic and he saw my just desire to help people and work with them, and

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so he mentored me on the business side of the personal training studio, and

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that's what makes me a little different.

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We are one-on-one.

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It's just one trainer and one person, or possibly two people, like if you and your

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friend want to come, or mother, daughter.

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We do have some things like that, but we don't have open gym hours at all.

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It's all one-on-one with a trainer.

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He took me under his wing, showed me the ins and the outs, and I was

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with him for about five or six years, and I just I felt I love people.

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I'm on this earth to love God and love people, and I know that

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without a doubt, and look, I don't ever mean to throw God in anybody's

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face, but my faith is everything.

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It is the only thing that I get up for every day, and so I know it's not my

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job to convince anybody of anything, but it is my job to tell the story of what

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he has done for me, and I am somebody that should have been dead in a ditch

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somewhere many times over in my life because I only knew how to make bad

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choices, but since I get up every day and I give Him the credit first, and I

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say, "Lead me, guide me, make me better today than yesterday", I am killing it

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in this life, and I know it's not me.

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The people that know me know I'm just a schlep who's like trying to

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do good, right, but I have a huge heart for people and that's what I

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fell in love with in this industry.

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I learn people's stories.

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I get to celebrate the birth of their grandchildren and the graduations of

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their kids, and I train their kids from high school to college, and I watch them

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become grownups and, my son will tell you, and I shared this with you in our one of

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our texting, I want to be everyone's mom.

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It's just who I am, right?

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I want everybody to have love and joy and happiness and life is so

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hard, but we don't have to live in the hard, and I'm just the quirky,

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rainbow, sunshine girl that says, "It's okay to live different, right?

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It's okay to have joy despite shitty circumstances."

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I will say this from what you just shared.

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First off, there's no judgment here, and I've always said to guests, and

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I've even said to my listeners that this is all about how people get

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through the walks of life, and it doesn't matter what you've had to do to

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overcome that, whether you have believe in God, whether you don't believe in

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God, and you're listening to this.

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I know that for many people we all have different backgrounds, but that's what

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makes this show special in that we all have unique paths of how we gotten

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to become great or greater than we ever thought possible: to become the

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best versions of ourselves, so Jen, I want to say that I had a guest not all

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that long ago, that talked about his journey and how he's gone through that,

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especially with his religious faith, to be able to push through, especially

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with a lot of adversity and to hear you say that and just, I feel that passion.

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I feel that love.

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Are there days where you get up and you say, "I don't know why I'm doing

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this, like I just feel really drained", because some people giving yourself quite

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a lot can be very tiresome, and I know that for many, that can be a struggle.

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I know for me sometimes I'm an introvert by nature, so I'm like, " I got to step

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back here for a second and take a chill pill", because it's really helping

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me to become able to help others, and I've learned how to adapt to that,

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but for you, how do you adapt to that?

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Do you feed off of other people?

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How's that work for you?

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There's a lot of different sides to that question.

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In 2018, I opened my first personal training studio on my own, and now I

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have relocated to what is my second.

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I am not somebody who thought I could ever do this.

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This is not something I ever went and looked for.

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This all very much grew organically, so on the business side of all of this, as

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an entrepreneur, as a woman owning my own brick and mortar business now, I feel

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like a fish out of water every single day.

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I have no idea what I'm doing.

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It's all reactionary.

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I mean, I'm getting better, but the thing that I show up for every day are the

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people that trust me with their lives.

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I see anywhere from 10 to 20 people every single day that I know are excited to

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come see me, and I get to come to this beautiful place that I have created where

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I have a nice office and a beautiful training floor, and there's a big plant

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wall and tons of windows out front and I bring my dogs to work with me.

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Every half hour, it's a new person, right, and it's all very social

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and I am such a social person.

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I have so much love to give people whether they want it or not, right?

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It's funny because, like I said I never set out to do this, but I'm

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all about people recognizing what their gifts are and we all have such

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different gifts and when we use them together, it's so beautiful, and so

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a big piece of what I'm passionate about is teaching people the difference

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between fitting in and belonging.

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When you're trying to fit in, you're trying to be like everybody else and

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force yourself into something that you're not and you feel awkward and it doesn't

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feel good, and whether that is the food choices that you make, the people that

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you hang out with, whatever, whatever, everybody has their stuff, but when

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you learn that it feels really good to belong, it's because you love yourself.

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You love your own company.

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You are what I call joyful contentment, right?

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I might not have everything I want.

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I might not be who I want, but I have lights and running water.

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I have somebody I can text if I have a problem.

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We are so very fortunate and there's so many little tiny ways we don't

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see that, and going through some very dark times, as I know you have, those

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people who have reminded me, "Hey mom, would you be this upset that your

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girlfriend broke up with you if you were living in Haiti after the hurricane

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and you had to go search for food?"

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Your 18 year old kid says that to you, and you're like, "Oh, wow", right?

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I guess that does help put it in perspective that this is big and it

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does hurt, and we can process those things and that's never a bad thing.

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I think the thing that I want people to understand is that when you

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allow anything to bring you to the point where you want to give up, you

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forget what you have already, right?

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You have a heart that beats an air in your lungs.

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I don't care if it's hold the door for someone else, you may change their day and

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you'll never even know it, but if you're not here and you're not participating

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in life, you miss so many opportunities.

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I wonder about that too, because you're right, I have talked about that

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quite extensively in many of my episodes where I focus on not only the things that

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I have been through personally, but the struggles to have that self-actualization,

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right, so, fans of Maslow and his hierarchy of needs would certainly relate

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to that, and it fits very well with our conversation that we're having because,

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to me, sometimes finding that sort of small thing to latch onto to just say,

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"This is where I feel content and feeling joy", and I even had another business

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owner that kind of talked about this as being what I feel happy about and you

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are essentially saying to me that this is what you get your happiness from is

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seeing those other people's successes.

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Absolutely.

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Without a doubt.

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Yeah.

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Look, even in the worst days, I have the best life in the whole world.

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The choices I've made in my past, and then this journey that I've

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been on this last five years.

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I didn't even know other people knew about this whole like, be

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your best self show up and be the best version of yourself, right?

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When your thing popped up, I was like, "Oh my gosh, this is amazing.

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I can't wait to meet this guy."

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I talked about it with all my clients know my whole life.

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I'm such an open book.

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Everybody knows everything.

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I wanted to say, first off, for those that are clients

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of Workout with Jenn, hi.

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It's really glad to meet you through this podcast.

Jenn: 00:16:34

Yeah.

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You might get some emails in the next few days.

Joshua: 00:16:37

Oh, I believe it.

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I might believe it, but you know, let me pivot back for a second because you were

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saying to us earlier about your previous career being a computer programmer.

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My curiosity question that kind of filtered up when you were talking about

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that was what led to you changing careers because was it, and I'm more specifically

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tying into the computer programmer, because you've shared a lot about what

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you got started with fitness, and I really appreciate that because we all

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have a starting point somewhere that kind of motivates us, but, was there initial

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ambition back then as to why you did that and why you thought that was an ideal

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career path, because I know for some people it could be very tough to pivot

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midway through and think, "Well, I'm going to do a complete 180 on my career",

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and I've had a lot of people that are interested in that sort of thing, so can

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you share your experience about that?

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Absolutely.

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After high school, I tried a couple different things.

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I was working at some local restaurants and I tried beauty school, and then

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in my early twenties, I ended up going to Computer Learning Network.

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They had a nine month technical program, and then they help you with

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job placement and writing your resume and things like that, so I had some

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very elementary skills in the computer programming area, and so I got my first

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job and just from there, I worked up into some other positions in that industry.

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This was all before the .com world came out, which is going to

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date me even more than you, um,

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I, I do remember Y2K.

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Working.

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I was already working many, many years when Y2K came around.

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I enjoyed that profession quite a bit, and the interesting thing that we even alluded

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to when we were talking before is how I have seen how my life has layered itself.

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The thing that I loved about being a computer programmer every

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day was, "Here's the problem.

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How do we fix it?", and I liked that.

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I like to do that kind of thing.

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I am a problem solver.

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I don't like to just point out problems.

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Let's figure out how to fix it, because otherwise, you're just creating more

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problems, right, and not fixing anything.

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What I didn't realize though, was the skillset of, here's the problem, how

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do we fix it, all these years later is what I love most about being a trainer.

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Each person that comes in has their own unique physical issues, and I think

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you've probably already noticed I'm more than somebody who actually just

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shows you how to move weights around, and we'll get to that at some point,

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maybe, which is fine if we don't, but I take an interest in each person

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and, "Hey, what's going on at work?

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How are you managing some outside activity and how's going on with your kids?

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Are you getting time with them?", and it's really each person has this unique set

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of situations that they have to navigate and figure out how to still make, I have

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two catch phrases, healthiest choice in the moment, and consistent mindfulness.

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Those two things right there are the basic fundamental things for behavior change.

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Our brains are so crazy in the way that they work, and that whole

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expression of stuck in a rut is like an actual thing, so to change your

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behavior, you have to consciously, consistently stay mindful, right?

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Am I moving towards where I want to go, or am I on autopilot and just riding out

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right now, which sometimes autopilot can be the healthiest choice in the moment.

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Sometimes we don't always have to be 100% go, right?

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Sometimes a 10 minute walk every day is better than being all stressed

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out about having to get to the gym because my kids are sick and

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this and that, but you know what?

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I can go outside for 10 minutes and get some deep breaths, so that's

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where all the years of being in this industry and all the different people

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I've come in contact with, and I'm an observer and I pay attention and I

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just have a crazy memory for things.

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People are always like, "How the hell do you remember that?"

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I don't know.

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I just do.

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I'm like, "That was so long ago."

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It just comes to me.

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I've been able to just put all of those pieces together to figure

Jenn: 00:20:57

out what are the things that work for this person or that person-

Joshua: 00:21:01

And I think it-

Jenn: 00:21:02

And I just love it.

Jenn: 00:21:03

What else would I like?

Jenn: 00:21:04

What else would I do with myself?

Joshua: 00:21:06

Yeah.

Joshua: 00:21:08

Yeah.

Jenn: 00:21:08

I stand around, I tell people what to do with their bodies and their lives.

Jenn: 00:21:13

It's perfect for me.

Joshua: 00:21:14

Yeah, and I think that's important because, even for me, I know

Joshua: 00:21:19

that for some people, having somebody that will shadow behind you and be able

Joshua: 00:21:24

to help you to make sure you're doing the right things is really important.

Joshua: 00:21:29

I know for me as being a coach myself in a completely different manner

Joshua: 00:21:33

than a physical trainer, I have to worry about: Are the people that I'm

Joshua: 00:21:39

working with, are they overwhelmed?

Joshua: 00:21:40

Are they having a lot going on in their lives?

Joshua: 00:21:43

Do I know that I need to push back in terms of maybe they're being a little

Joshua: 00:21:47

resistant, but knowing how far I can go with that, or easing up and knowing

Joshua: 00:21:52

when to press the right buttons, because it's all about reading that person

Joshua: 00:21:56

too and being able to understand how that all works, especially with life

Joshua: 00:22:03

coaching which I do, it's all about that, and I know I've had people that

Joshua: 00:22:06

I've even talked to, I know they have struggles with trying to have that

Joshua: 00:22:12

with what they actually set out to do and what they actually try to achieve.

Joshua: 00:22:17

With all that said, Jenn, this leads into my next question I have because

Joshua: 00:22:21

there are millions of you, right?

Joshua: 00:22:23

Billions of you, out in the world, training, and I've had already a couple

Joshua: 00:22:28

of fitness trainers on this show that have talked about what their approach is.

Joshua: 00:22:34

For me, I feel like the biggest thing, especially when it comes to fitness, is

Joshua: 00:22:39

making sure that you truly understand that person is that you're working out

Joshua: 00:22:43

with or helping you get that direction.

Joshua: 00:22:45

Do they actually give a care in the world about you, and I've had really

Joshua: 00:22:49

bad experiences with people, not the current gym where I'm at, where

Joshua: 00:22:54

I have had that experience; they are removed, I'm more of a number.

Joshua: 00:22:59

My question more specifically is this: what do you do differently than say,

Joshua: 00:23:04

another trainer or another type of company that I would get from you?

Joshua: 00:23:10

In other words, what do you bring to the table that other

Joshua: 00:23:15

people should pay attention to?

Jenn: 00:23:18

I am always fascinated when I get a new client, so I'm just going to lay

Jenn: 00:23:22

out how I do things from the second you walk in the door, this is how it goes.

Jenn: 00:23:26

You contact me and I always make you start with a consultation.

Jenn: 00:23:30

I want to meet you face to face.

Jenn: 00:23:32

I want to see how you move, how do you stand, how do you walk.

Jenn: 00:23:36

I am assessing you from the second that you walk in because you are going to

Jenn: 00:23:41

put your body, and most likely your emotions and your life, and my hands.

Jenn: 00:23:47

I want to see you in person and meet you, tell you about myself.

Jenn: 00:23:53

The consultation always starts with, I ask the person about them.

Jenn: 00:23:58

This is the key to anything in life.

Jenn: 00:24:00

You always direct the attention to the other person.

Jenn: 00:24:03

If you're always worried about you, you're never going to learn anything

Jenn: 00:24:07

and you're never going to get anywhere.

Jenn: 00:24:08

The only way I can help somebody is if they're willing to open up to me about

Jenn: 00:24:13

what is the actual reason you're here?

Jenn: 00:24:16

So my question to them is, "Tell me your story.

Jenn: 00:24:19

Was there a medical thing that just happened that you

Jenn: 00:24:22

needed to get some help with?

Jenn: 00:24:24

Are you coming out of physical therapy and looking for some direction?

Jenn: 00:24:27

Are you maybe just sick and tired of being sick and tired, like what

Jenn: 00:24:31

is it that made you decide now is the time to do something?", and

Jenn: 00:24:35

you usually get a very emotional either this physical thing happened.

Jenn: 00:24:39

I went through a divorce and I just need to feel better about myself.

Jenn: 00:24:44

I know that I have issues with food and I need to start exercising, which I will

Jenn: 00:24:49

throw this out here because one of the things I have heard about myself is I make

Jenn: 00:24:53

sure that people understand what the scope of practice of a personal trainer is.

Jenn: 00:24:59

We are not permitted to give specific nutrition advice as personal trainers, so

Jenn: 00:25:06

when you start to look for who it is that you're going to work for, please make sure

Jenn: 00:25:11

that you ask them for their certifications for advice to make sure that they are

Jenn: 00:25:16

actually certified to give that to you.

Jenn: 00:25:19

I am not saying anything against trainers.

Jenn: 00:25:21

We are absolutely allowed to give tips and tricks and make recommendations

Jenn: 00:25:26

based on the guidelines out there.

Jenn: 00:25:28

Unfortunately, what happens sometimes people will make recommendations not

Jenn: 00:25:33

understanding what medicines people are on, what other medical things

Jenn: 00:25:38

that have happened to them; for example, women with breast cancer.

Jenn: 00:25:41

You don't recommend a soy-based protein, so as the person looking for

Jenn: 00:25:46

a trainer, you want to go vet us as much as it behooves us to meet you,

Jenn: 00:25:52

to see what we're working with, so the consultation starts with you.

Jenn: 00:25:55

Tell me about you, and then we talk about any medical issues, any joint

Jenn: 00:26:00

back issues, knee pain, right?

Jenn: 00:26:02

I ask all the questions.

Jenn: 00:26:04

Are in a car accident?

Jenn: 00:26:05

Did you fall out of the tree?

Jenn: 00:26:06

People forget stuff, right, so what I want to know, is there something

Jenn: 00:26:10

going on in your body that could possibly restrict some kind of

Jenn: 00:26:14

movement that I may ask you to do?

Jenn: 00:26:17

Then I explain how my training works.

Jenn: 00:26:19

Everybody starts with a workout based consultation, because you're paying for

Jenn: 00:26:23

it so I want you to get an exercise.

Jenn: 00:26:25

I want you to get a workout in, but I'm the kind of trainer I

Jenn: 00:26:29

would rather give you 10 things that are too light then never give

Jenn: 00:26:32

you one thing that is too heavy.

Jenn: 00:26:34

I always start with a baby step approach.

Jenn: 00:26:37

What I have found in my personal life is: we are inundated with this

Jenn: 00:26:41

message of big sweeping changes.

Jenn: 00:26:44

You have to do everything all at once or it's not going to work.

Jenn: 00:26:47

Well, I'm really sorry to tell you if any of that worked, we

Jenn: 00:26:50

would all be supermodels, right?

Jenn: 00:26:53

If-

Joshua: 00:26:54

Yeah, I look at my super model body, right?

Jenn: 00:26:57

Well, but you know what I'm saying, Josh, if anything, the diet

Jenn: 00:26:59

and fitness industry, exercise industry sold you actually worked, wouldn't

Jenn: 00:27:05

we all be doing much better because who doesn't take pills, potions, and

Jenn: 00:27:09

things to make their life better?

Jenn: 00:27:11

My point is I learned back in 2018 to start at the opposite end of the spectrum.

Jenn: 00:27:17

If you're not doing anything, a half an hour a week is better than nothing, right,

Jenn: 00:27:22

and then you come for that half hour a week, and I say to you, "Hey, listen.

Jenn: 00:27:26

In the next week I want you to get two 10 minute walks in."

Jenn: 00:27:29

It's not about the 10 minute walks.

Jenn: 00:27:31

It's about starting to make yourself accountable to get intentional

Jenn: 00:27:35

activity, and here's the most beautiful thing that I love to

Jenn: 00:27:38

explain people in the consultation.

Jenn: 00:27:41

We all know the downward spiral, and as a woman who has had eating issues most

Jenn: 00:27:45

of my life, for a lot of us, especially women, we eat a piece of cake so we feel

Jenn: 00:27:50

bad about that, so we eat another piece of cake, so we feel bad about that,

Jenn: 00:27:53

and as we eat in the third one, we're like, "Well, crap, I don't want anybody

Jenn: 00:27:56

to know I ate this much cake", so we usually finish it, right, or we hide

Jenn: 00:28:01

it or something like that, because we don't want people to think badly of us.

Jenn: 00:28:05

Why?

Jenn: 00:28:06

That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard, but anyway, the

Jenn: 00:28:09

opposite end of that is true.

Jenn: 00:28:11

You never realize how good it feels to feel good until you start feeling good,

Jenn: 00:28:17

so one 30 minute session a week where I encourage you to, "Hey, this week

Jenn: 00:28:22

let's drink a little bit more water.

Jenn: 00:28:24

We don't have to change anything else this week."

Jenn: 00:28:26

You come see me once you drink one extra bottle of water a day.

Jenn: 00:28:30

Then when I see you next week, now we're going to add in a walker too,

Jenn: 00:28:34

and so people can very slowly start to incorporate all these better, healthier

Jenn: 00:28:40

mindsets, choices, whatever it is we're dealing with that specific person, and

Jenn: 00:28:45

then they're starting to feel successful instead of going, "Well, shit, I did that

Jenn: 00:28:50

diet for two and a half days, which is about how long they last, and now I'm back

Jenn: 00:28:54

to eating chips and Subway, and going into Sheetz and getting MTo cheese dogs because

Jenn: 00:28:59

they're delicious", right, but what if in exchange of that, what if we start

Jenn: 00:29:05

just making a good breakfast every day?

Jenn: 00:29:07

You can do the same thing the rest of the day for a while, but

Jenn: 00:29:10

let's make breakfast a good habit.

Jenn: 00:29:12

Let's look at our week across the board.

Jenn: 00:29:14

Instead of trying to be perfect all day long, which you will never do,

Jenn: 00:29:18

I don't care who you are, I don't care how disciplined you are, you're

Jenn: 00:29:21

going to eat a Hershey Kiss, right?

Jenn: 00:29:22

It happens, but what if we're just kind of like, "Look at the breakfast time

Jenn: 00:29:28

and get something good going there", or maybe breakfast isn't your issue.

Jenn: 00:29:31

Maybe sleep is your issue, right, so maybe we attack that first, but let's just work

Jenn: 00:29:37

on one little thing at a time so that you don't feel overwhelmed because as you

Jenn: 00:29:41

start to incorporate these little things, you're like, "Oh my God, I feel amazing.

Jenn: 00:29:46

My kids and I went and rode our bikes for half an hour this weekend.

Jenn: 00:29:49

We haven't done that in three years."

Jenn: 00:29:51

That's what I want to tell people.

Jenn: 00:29:53

That's what I want.

Jenn: 00:29:54

That's what I bring to the table.

Jenn: 00:29:56

I think that may be a little bit different than some other places, and I'm very lucky

Jenn: 00:30:02

that I have so many people that want to come and hear what I have to say, that I

Jenn: 00:30:08

get to do this all day, every day, right?

Jenn: 00:30:10

That's amazing to me.

Joshua: 00:30:11

I think that's always important that we have that conversation with

Joshua: 00:30:15

ourselves of not only overcoming what we might have as thoughts about,

Joshua: 00:30:21

"Well, I don't know if these people might want to come and see me", but

Joshua: 00:30:25

to actually take that extra step to say, "I do have something of value

Joshua: 00:30:29

because I've been on this journey.

Joshua: 00:30:30

I do want to share it", and that's been something of me that I've

Joshua: 00:30:34

been going through to realize that there are unlimited gifts

Joshua: 00:30:38

in this opportunity that we have.

Joshua: 00:30:41

Jenn, we're at the end of our time, but before we wrap up, I want to

Joshua: 00:30:44

give you the last few minutes to pitch: your business, where you're

Joshua: 00:30:48

located at, how can people find you?

Joshua: 00:30:51

What are some of the things that you're offering?

Joshua: 00:30:53

This is your last few minutes.

Joshua: 00:30:55

I would love for you to close us out.

Jenn: 00:30:58

Well first, thank you so much for having me.

Jenn: 00:31:00

This was absolutely a pleasure.

Jenn: 00:31:02

Hopefully you have some room when you come into some more time to fit me back in.

Jenn: 00:31:07

I'm sure we can find many more things to talk about.

Joshua: 00:31:10

Absolutely.

Jenn: 00:31:12

As I said, I am a personal training studio.

Jenn: 00:31:14

It is called Workout with Jenn, and you can find me at that

website: 00:31:19

workoutwithjenn.com.

Joshua: 00:31:22

That's two ns by the way.

Jenn: 00:31:23

Yes.

Jenn: 00:31:24

Facebook and Instagram are the same: WorkoutWithJenn, both with two Ns.

Jenn: 00:31:29

We are located at 4801 East Trindle Road in Mechanicsburg, and when I say

Jenn: 00:31:35

we, one of the things that has been such a blessing for me moving to this

Jenn: 00:31:40

second studio, is it has allowed me the opportunity to have other trainers here

Jenn: 00:31:45

as my business has grown and I have gotten to the point where I unfortunately have

Jenn: 00:31:50

not been able to take new clients for the last couple of months, but it's a

Jenn: 00:31:54

great problem to have in this industry.

Jenn: 00:31:57

It's given me the opportunity to give other trainers the chance

Jenn: 00:32:00

to start where I did working out of somebody else's facility.

Jenn: 00:32:04

Strength training equipment is a little on the pricey side, so when you

Jenn: 00:32:08

have access to a facility like this, we have an about a 1000 square foot

Jenn: 00:32:12

training floor and it is all one-on-one, so it would be you and a trainer.

Jenn: 00:32:16

You would sit down for a consultation and then they would discuss your

Jenn: 00:32:20

health and fitness goals and how they can best assist you in meeting them.

Jenn: 00:32:24

Scheduling is all done one-on-one by appointment only.

Jenn: 00:32:28

Again, thank you so much for having me.

Jenn: 00:32:30

I really enjoyed our time together.

Joshua: 00:32:33

I really want to say this as we close this out, is that there are people

Joshua: 00:32:39

that we need in this world that not only help us to achieve what we really

Joshua: 00:32:45

want, but they got to give a damn, and I feel like you give a damn about not

Joshua: 00:32:51

only the people that are walking through the door, and I don't normally swear,

Joshua: 00:32:54

but that is something that I feel I walk away with this knowing that I can

Joshua: 00:33:00

go to someone, no matter where I'm at in my life, and feel confident in not

Joshua: 00:33:05

only the things that I can achieve with people that actually intentionally care,

Joshua: 00:33:11

but they also want to see who I can become, not just in the physical side

Joshua: 00:33:16

which is your main goal, but there's the indirect goal of being able to have that

Joshua: 00:33:21

emotional connection and have that story of success and you share that with them.

Joshua: 00:33:26

Jenn, Thanks for being on Speaking from the Heart, and I definitely appreciate

Joshua: 00:33:31

all those things that you have shared with your heart today with our audience

Joshua: 00:33:35

and that you continue to do what you do because it's incredible work and

Joshua: 00:33:40

I'm really happy that you spent some time to talk about that with us.

Jenn: 00:33:45

Thank you so much.

Jenn: 00:33:46

I am very lucky to get to do this every day and I do not take that for granted.

Joshua: 00:33:52

I know what you're doing right now.

Joshua: 00:33:53

You're eyeing up that cake that you bought because you listened to this episode and

Joshua: 00:33:58

you had to pause it in order to be able to consume and enjoy it, because you

Joshua: 00:34:02

thought there would only be one slice, but there were many more slices that came

Joshua: 00:34:06

after that and now you're embarrassed.

Joshua: 00:34:09

You didn't want to do all that, but you know that maybe you can work

Joshua: 00:34:14

on something in terms of a better habit so that you never do it again.

Joshua: 00:34:19

I think, if anything, that line and even the ad-libbing that I did with

Joshua: 00:34:24

my wonderful improv skills, certainly exemplifies Jenn's episode, in which I

Joshua: 00:34:30

really enjoyed getting to know a lot more about not only the things that she has

Joshua: 00:34:35

done in her life, but how she's gotten to here, and just the incredible joy

Joshua: 00:34:40

of passion and the ability to just keep pushing forward no matter what, because it

Joshua: 00:34:46

is not just about the journey that we're on, but it's about what we want people

Joshua: 00:34:51

to see from ourselves, the best version of ourselves that is, and I think that

Joshua: 00:34:58

really it's about finding that Karen in our lives; no, not the bad Karens, but the

Joshua: 00:35:06

good Karens, that find someone who notices and cares about you and wants to move

Joshua: 00:35:12

you ahead no matter what through their presence, through their smile, and through

Joshua: 00:35:17

their connection that they have with you.

Joshua: 00:35:21

I think that Jenn wants to exemplify those sort of values, and I love

Joshua: 00:35:25

that she talked about that to the point that really it creates a life

Joshua: 00:35:29

lesson for all of us that it doesn't matter what somebody's going through.

Joshua: 00:35:33

It's about always being able to be there with your smiling face, being

Joshua: 00:35:38

able to take care of some of the things that need to be taken care of,

Joshua: 00:35:42

especially if it even involves your physical fitness; but that's the thing.

Joshua: 00:35:48

Sometimes it can be very tough for somebody to go in every day and have

Joshua: 00:35:53

that sort of attitude, which is something I even pressed during this interview:

Joshua: 00:35:57

"Jenn, how did you even make that happen?

Joshua: 00:35:59

What is it that you have?

Joshua: 00:36:01

Is it a special potion that you drink?

Joshua: 00:36:03

Is it something that you just get influenced from

Joshua: 00:36:06

listening to meditation tapes?

Joshua: 00:36:08

Is it something that you sleep on and then you just wake up every

Joshua: 00:36:12

day feeling this magical way?"

Joshua: 00:36:16

It's not a unicorn.

Joshua: 00:36:18

This is Jenn, and she definitely was not faking it for anyone or even me for

Joshua: 00:36:24

that matter when it came to being able to be that influence for somebody that

Joshua: 00:36:28

typically might not have that influence in their lives, because that's really

Joshua: 00:36:33

about learning what stories people have.

Joshua: 00:36:37

In many episodes I have talking about the difference between facts and

Joshua: 00:36:40

stories, and that's something that even for us, if we are able to create some

Joshua: 00:36:45

of those opportunities to really show and understand what stories people are

Joshua: 00:36:50

telling, we might be able to get to the heart of really why they think the

Joshua: 00:36:56

way they do, but it's about working in the right environment and I think

Joshua: 00:37:01

that Jen is building that sort of quote unquote empire within Mechanicsburg.

Joshua: 00:37:09

Sound familiar?

Joshua: 00:37:10

I've had another guest by the name of Noah in which he's doing the same thing.

Joshua: 00:37:15

Ironically enough, they're on two opposite ends of the Mechanicsburg borough in which

Joshua: 00:37:20

they are having their businesses, but you know, some people might not want to go to

Joshua: 00:37:27

ARK Fitness, and that's perfectly okay.

Joshua: 00:37:30

Some people might want to go to Jenn and work out with her: because of that

Joshua: 00:37:34

smile, because of that connection, because of wanting to know more about

Joshua: 00:37:40

that person that she's working out with and I think that's what we need

Joshua: 00:37:43

to take away, is that it isn't about fitting in, it's about believing.

Joshua: 00:37:51

It's not about having just joyful contentment, but about understanding

Joshua: 00:37:56

that we can learn from those experiences so that we can continue to have joyful

Joshua: 00:38:03

contentment, and there's a very big difference between those two concepts.

Joshua: 00:38:08

We can fake it and continue to fake it for as long as we possibly can, thinking that

Joshua: 00:38:14

we have everything together in our lives.

Joshua: 00:38:17

Having that rich lifestyle, living in a most expensive house with the most

Joshua: 00:38:21

expensive car, with the most expensive items in the house, including the having

Joshua: 00:38:26

the most latest stereo systems, video game equipment, podcast equipment,

Joshua: 00:38:31

for even people like me, but do you think I really live in a castle?

Joshua: 00:38:37

Do you really think that I isolate myself because of many successes that I've had?

Joshua: 00:38:44

No, and that's exactly what Jenn does too.

Joshua: 00:38:48

She defies the odds instead.

Joshua: 00:38:53

We can be rich when it comes to the financial security, but what really is the

Joshua: 00:38:57

currency of life is being able to have the stories, the life lessons, the ability to

Joshua: 00:39:04

work, and be able to surround yourself in a most positive of environments in order

Joshua: 00:39:08

to understand why people are the way they are, but can we think of what the small

Joshua: 00:39:17

things are that we can really value?

Joshua: 00:39:20

Those are the things that Jenn counts as many blessings in her life, especially

Joshua: 00:39:25

with many of the choices that she has been faced with and how she has

Joshua: 00:39:29

overcome the odds with even her own weight loss, which I was not kidding.

Joshua: 00:39:34

The photo that she showed me shows a dramatic transformation of the

Joshua: 00:39:38

person that used to really struggle to somebody that really thrives, but it's

Joshua: 00:39:45

about making those healthy choices.

Joshua: 00:39:48

Those healthy choices are not very easy to do, especially if we have to

Joshua: 00:39:52

continuously be in negative space; to be in a place where the dark corners or

Joshua: 00:39:59

the recesses where we often hide in are really the comfort that we enjoy the most.

Joshua: 00:40:07

Can we find ways in which we can push ourselves, but also know that

Joshua: 00:40:11

sometimes we might need to retreat, and I think that this episode makes a

Joshua: 00:40:16

unique distinction between some of the things that we've even covered about

Joshua: 00:40:20

going full steam ahead because, let me clarify, if it wasn't clear, it isn't

Joshua: 00:40:27

always about moving full steam ahead.

Joshua: 00:40:31

It's about balance.

Joshua: 00:40:34

No, not on the balance beam, trying to figure out whether you can stay on and

Joshua: 00:40:38

move one foot in front of the other, I am talking about the balance that

Joshua: 00:40:43

we have between work and life, being indoors all the time, rather being

Joshua: 00:40:49

outdoors, being able to experience what life has, being able to say, "Are these

Joshua: 00:40:56

the things that we shouldn't be doing?

Joshua: 00:40:59

Should we really be eating that third slice of cake?", and if you

Joshua: 00:41:04

are eating that third slice of cake, as you continue to listen to

Joshua: 00:41:07

this episode, put the fork down.

Joshua: 00:41:09

Instead, listen to what I have to say now.

Joshua: 00:41:13

Jenn is one of those people that will help you to put that cake away and

Joshua: 00:41:20

to make sure that you pull out those vegetables, those fruits, and also take

Joshua: 00:41:26

a smaller slice of the cake to have for later, because we all are surrounded

Joshua: 00:41:32

with those choices and we know that we're going to indulge with them.

Joshua: 00:41:35

We know that those are vices.

Joshua: 00:41:37

We're human.

Joshua: 00:41:38

We are going to fall on that sword again and again and again,

Joshua: 00:41:42

and we know that we shouldn't be beating ourselves up but we are.

Joshua: 00:41:46

We are.

Joshua: 00:41:47

We are.

Joshua: 00:41:47

And it continues to make it more painful and more terrible and more exciting

Joshua: 00:41:53

so that we know that if we continue to hide it, nobody else has to know

Joshua: 00:41:56

about it, and we know that we can get away with it every single time.

Joshua: 00:42:03

Are you really getting away with it?

Joshua: 00:42:06

Are you really changing your life?

Joshua: 00:42:11

It's all a matter of understanding what you can potentially do, and I think Jenn

Joshua: 00:42:16

understands what she could potentially do.

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She moved from a programming career in the computer industry to something

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in which she programs humans instead, but not in a way to manipulate or

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influence or to artificially change things because that doesn't work.

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The fitness industry has proven that time and time again with

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the South Beach Diet, Weight Watchers.

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Sometimes those programs work, sometimes those programs don't.

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That magic pill that you swallow isn't necessarily going to take you to another

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universe, especially in the Matrix.

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It's just a perceived reality; but what you can do is just be surrounded

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by people that love and care and they generally want to see you have success.

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That is what this is all about.

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Time and time again, I have always said that it's about finding the

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people that we want to surround ourselves with and be encouraged.

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If you find that having that piece of cake is a lot more convincing, instead

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of having that Karen, that's your choice.

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Live your life to the fullest.

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If it's okay to just be working and not surrounding yourself in a negative

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environment and pushing yourself down time and time again to not have those

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again, your prerogative, but we need to have joyful contentment.

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We need to believe that we can ultimately achieve the impossible

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because it isn't impossible.

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It is possible, and all it takes is just being willing to say to

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yourself that you are worthy.

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You can do this.

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You can share in all the successes, whether they are artificial or

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natural, but all it means is that you're able to open your mind to a

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whole new alternative reality and I know that you have what it takes.

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All of us have what it takes because we are capable of learning.

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Thanks for listening to episode number 40 of Speaking from the

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Heart, and I look forward to hearing from your heart very soon.

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