Episode #108 - Igniting The Rebel Version Of Ourselves: An Interview With Bridgit Norris

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Welcome to the podcast where relationships, confidence, and

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determination all converge into

an amazing, heartfelt experience.

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This is Speaking From The Heart.

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Joshua: Welcome back to episode

number 108 of Speaking from the Heart.

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Today I'm super excited to have our

guest, Bridgit Norris, who is also

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in the coaching world, joining us.

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Bridgit has proudly worn the label

of a rebel throughout her life.

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She always stood against the

mundane, believing that embracing

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your inner rebel can empower clients

to break free from limitations

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and unleash their full potential.

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Through her innovative programs, she

guides individuals on a transformative

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journey, helping them challenge the

status quo, find their authentic

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voices, and achieve extraordinary

personal and professional growth.

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Bridgit agrees that it's time to rebel

against mediocrity and step into a life

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of limitless possibilities, and I have

to say, it's great to have somebody on

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the show that not only aligns with what

I do in my business, all the way in the

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other part of the United States, but it

just exemplifies the importance of the

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mission that we are all serving to not

only challenge the status quo, but to

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remind ourselves that the work that we

also put into this comes from us inside.

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I think that Bridgit's interview really

exemplifies the fact that it's not about

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what we do, but it's about how we rebel

,against some of the things that we've

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always been told about life and what

it's all about, and challenging what

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it means to even be on the threshold

of that change, but making sure that

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we, the people that are responsible

for the work that we supposed to do

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overall, lies inside of ourselves.

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Coaches can only do so much and whether

you feel that you can change your

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mind about this process or not, really

depends on how much you're willing to

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invest in yourself to grow, to lead, and

to inspire in so many different ways.

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But with that, let's go to the episode.

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Alright, we're here with Bridgit Norris.

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Bridgit, thanks for sharing

your heart with us today.

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Bridgit: Thank you so much for having me.

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Joshua: Yes.

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Thank you so much for

spending some time with me.

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I am really impressed by some

of the things that you wrote for

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my audience to listen to as your

background, because I'm thinking, "Hmm.

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You have some really creative adjectives

of wanting to challenge the mundane

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and be a rebel.", so I'm wondering.

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What got you into this framework

of wanting to be helping others to

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challenge their mindsets, because

I'm essentially getting a lot out of

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what you are saying with that sort of

framework in mind, so can you tell us

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a little bit about what got you started

with maybe doing these sort of things?

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Bridgit: Quite honestly, the funny

part about it is, is like, this

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is how I've been my entire life.

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I was that rebellious little girl.

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I moved out when I was 12.

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This will give you a gauge.

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When I was 12 years old and I literally

woke up one day and I said, "You know.

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This is not the life that I want,

and I want to do things that every

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other 12 year old girl is doing.

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I want to play sports, and I want

to go hang out with my friends and I

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can't do that, so I'm moving out.",

and there wasn't any thing in my mind

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that I was going to get a no because

it didn't matter; like just didn't

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matter, so I was very rebellious in

that fashion, so when it came to where

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I am now, and kind of revisiting that,

I had to remember that, because that

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is a part of who I am, and that's a

part of pulling that out of everyone.

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Not every person is rebellious

in that same fashion, but we all

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have a little bit of that in us.

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It's just remembering

it and figuring it out.

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I talk to people all the time, they

say, "I'm a rule follower.", and I'm

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like, "I bet you if we dig, there's some

rules that you've broken, and there's

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some things that you've done to rebel.

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You're just kind of

forgetting it, conveniently."

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Joshua: I mean, I find it interesting

though, because when I was 12 or 13 years

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of age, I've always wanted to say, "Yeah,

mom and dad, I'm tired of your crap!

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I want to move out!", and I think

every kid had it at that age.

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What actually forced you to move out?

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Bridgit: My mom was a single mom,

and we grew up very poor, and in the

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trailer park, and on food stamps, and

on welfare, and it was all those things.

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My mom did the best that she could, but

I was like playing mom, right, so she

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would work at nights and sleep during

the day, so I was the one who had to get

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the brother and sister up for school,

and I was the one who had to do homework

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and all of those things, made me realize

that I can't just be a 12 year old.

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I want to be a 12 year old.

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I want to play sports and I want to have

fun and I want to not be this, and I

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figured the worst thing for me to do,

and this applies to every situation,

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is to know that the situation you're

in is bad for you and still stay in it.

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There was no excuse and everybody's

like, "Oh, but you were 12.",

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and I'm like, "but I didn't" in

my mind, that wasn't a reason.

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That wasn't a reason to hold me back

from leaving something that I knew was

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bad or wasn't going to allow me to grow.

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Joshua: Do you think it allows you to be

able to expand though, by helping your

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siblings, even though you weren't the mom?

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You were playing the mom, but do

you think that made a profound

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influence on who you are?

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Bridgit: Probably.

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I mean, there's always that part

of it that; I have that in me.

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I'm the pushy, very aggressive person

that's going to tell you like it is,

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but I also am very giving, and it comes

from that spot of, "I'm going to mom you

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first, and then probably tell you the

things that you don't want to hear after."

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Joshua: Hey, if you want to tell me

how it is that being a podcast host and

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evaluate me afterwards, I'm be more than

happy to hear that from you, Bridgit.

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Bridgit: And it's scary because

most people don't like that.

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What's the thing that everybody says?

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"I want advice."

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Nobody really wants advice.

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They want to be told what they

want to hear, versus the thing that

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you're going to tell them they're

not actually going to do it anyways.

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That's like the truth of it.

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Joshua: It is, and I always call it in

my business, getting feedback and being

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able to accept that feedback from others

when we often are not comfortable in

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doing that, and I think that is really

important for the lifestyle that we

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live, which I really want to branch into

what you have shared with me, which is

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really breaking free of the conventional

lifestyle, because I think that for many

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of us, we always think that we have to

live a certain way, and that even goes

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into leadership, which for my audience,

they know that you are a coach and you

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help people to break that sort of mindset,

so what do you usually find that is

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helpful for people that you're working

with to break free from that convention?

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Bridgit: I think when, especially in

the coaching world, and working with

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so many people on that level, what

you find is the convention has turned

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into- and it's different as we've

shifted in the years, but convention

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right now online is the online space

is dictating who you have to be.

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How you show up.

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What you say.

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What you look like.

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What you do.

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What you don't do.

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All of that has become so conforming

that it's everybody wants to

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just be like everyone else.

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Everybody wants to make a million

dollars a month, but deep down

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inside, that's not their truth.

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Deep down inside, there are people that

want to say things that maybe go against

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the things that everyone's saying.

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They want to help people, but they don't

care about the money, but yet online,

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they're being told that that's a bunch of

crap, so for me, it was a pushback against

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all of that, like, who are you really,

and what do you really want, and what

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does that mean, because, surprisingly, so

many people, including myself, lost that.

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The online space is kind of- it's been

a great opportunity for everyone, right?

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We get to meet a ton of people.

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We get to coach and change lives,

but it's also hurt a lot of people in

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that aspect, and that part of it, it

happened to me and I'm like, I'm very

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strong, rebellious, do what I want.

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How did it happen to me, and then I

had to take a step back and go, "If it

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happened to somebody like myself, it's

happening to a lot of people.", and a lot

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of people need help getting out of that.

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Joshua: I have some friends myself

that I have known started their own

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coaching and then they had to back out

of it because of circumstances that

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have happened, especially being in

the online forum where there is- let's

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face it, a dime a dozen for the number

of coaches that are out there, but do

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you think there's a chance for it to

change, especially since you do have this

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unique brand yourself, Bridgit, and I

have my own unique brand myself, where

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I really talk about having people have

relationships, confidence, determination

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to keep moving forward in their life.

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I mean, do you think that there's still

a need for a coach, or even having people

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realize that they can change that mindset,

because I don't know about you, but my

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own personal opinion is that if you have

a coach by your side to be able to talk

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through some of these things that might

be too hard to process on your own,

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you might get a different perspective.

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Bridgit: Yes.

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I think that there's

always going to be a need.

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I mean that would be like saying there's

no need for therapy and people of course

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need therapy and then there's that.

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Joshua: Myself included.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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Bridgit: But then what happens to

the- this is where coaching came in.

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What's happens to the people that are

like, "I don't need therapy in its

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formal sense, but I do want and desire

to walk through things with people and

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have all of those things, so I think

that that's not going to go away.

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I think the better that the community

gets at not wanting to be like everyone

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else like in owning that part of it, the

better it is because what you need isn't

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going to come from the same thing that a

thousand people online are buying because

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it's flashy and they're everywhere, right?

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They're the guru, but people find that

that's not what they needed to begin with.

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It just looks great on paper, and

then you get in there and you're

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like, "This is not what I needed.

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This is not helpful.", so the more

that we can speak out and say, "You

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actually don't need that, and it might

not be even me what you need, but

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let's help you find what it is", and

there's not enough people saying that.

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It's more about, how can I make the money?

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How can I just bring people to me,

even if they're not a good fit,

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which is a whole other issue, but-

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Joshua: I'm always about having a fit.

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I even say that's a two way street.

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A coach can get rid of a client while

a client can also get rid of a coach.

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I think that always should be part of

any sort of agreement, but even with

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that said, what would you say is your

best advice to someone that is trying

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to forge that new path, given the fact

that we live in these conventional times?

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What would you recommend to someone,

especially even if it isn't coaching, just

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in life in general, whether it's personal

or professional, what would be that

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number one tip that you would give them?

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Bridgit: I bring this

back to every single time.

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If you don't remember who you are or

somehow you feel like you've lost who

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you are, that happens to a lot of people.

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It happens to women who get a divorce.

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It happens to empty nesters.

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You all of a sudden lose who you are.

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I think before you hire anyone,

unless it's something specific that

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they're helping you establish that,

you really need to get back to

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yourself, and figure out what that is.

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What makes you, you, and

everybody's always like, "Oh,

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I don't have anything special.

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I have nothing special to offer.

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It's the same thing as

everybody else is offering."

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It's totally not true at all, and until

you realize that there is never going

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to be a place of you breaking free.

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You're always going to be on

the hamster wheel of trying

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to figure out what that is.

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It's a vicious cycle

that only you can break.

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Joshua: Not to get meta with you,

but what would be what you would

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say to answer that question?

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What makes you different

and unique in that regard?

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Bridgit: For me, it is, and there was

a ton of people that you could say,

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"Oh, well, they tell it like it is,

they say what it is", and there's a

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lot of that, but, I have kind of a

running joke that I say sometimes is

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that, I'm that person that, I'm not

going to push you off the cliff, but

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I am there to push you off the cliff.

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It's just that I'm holding your pants.

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I'm going to jump with you.

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Like, I am a, I'm going to force

you, and most people that hire me

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say, "You're almost too much for me.

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It's too scary for me to talk

to you, but I need that."

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I want to help you change your mind, but

the only way we change our mind is through

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action, and there's too many people

that are afraid to say those things.

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They're afraid to say that

"I'm about the action.

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I'm about the hustle."

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I mean, Oh my God, don't

say the word hustle.

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That's a swear word online, and it's

those types of things that make me

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different, and I had to own them.

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I'm very type A.

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I worked in corporate for

lots of years in construction.

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I have a very hard shell.

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I worked with all men that have lots of

things to say and treat women in lots

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of fashions, and so, I looked at that

when I started coaching as a negative,

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because I was told that by a coach.

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I was told you're not feminine

enough, and I'm like, "Uh", so I

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tried to be that and it didn't work,

which made me lose my edge, so you

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have to know what your edge is.

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Joshua: Well, first off, I have

an explicit warning on this

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podcast because of all the things

we talk about, so don't worry.

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You can use those swear words

anytime you want, Bridgit.

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You're good, but-

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Bridgit: Perfect!

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Joshua: But the other thing is, I have to

tell you, I've had a guest on the show.

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Her name is Mia.

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If Mia's listening to this, hello again,

but she works in the construction field

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also, but she does something unique

with photography,, and writing, and

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giving people blue collar opportunities,

so she's using that as empowerment to

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help her business, so I agree with you.

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Don't lose that edge because it's

something that is truly important,

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but you said something that really

catches my eye, and I do something

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similar in my coaching practices.

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You want to push them over the edge,

but you also grab onto them; make sure

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that they don't fall all the way, and I

almost do something similar where I have

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people write down their goals, but I

also want to be part of that goal process

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because I want to hold them accountable

for it, and I know where to push and

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pull and prod, so with that said, do

you know where to push, pull, and prod

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when it comes to those sort of people?

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Is there like a standard

that you usually use?

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Bridgit: No.

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Everyone is so different, and I think

how I push you is not going to- if

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I pushed everybody the same way I

pushed you, it would never work.

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It actually takes a really good coach to

understand and listen and understand where

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somebody's at, and the level of readiness

that they're at, because it doesn't matter

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if I think you're ready and I'm ready to

push you, but you still feel like you have

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10 more steps before you're even there.

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I don't work with that

on a level of, "Yes.

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I'm not going to let you stay there

forever", but give you the space.

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I'm not going to create the change.

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You have to be the one that creates

it, and so for me, when I say, "I'm

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jumping with you!", It's because I

have long lasting client relationships

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as part of the non conventional

stigma in the online space.

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I still connect with

people from years ago.

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I want to know what's happening with them.

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They're excited to message me and

say, "Guess what happened in my life?"

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Those are the things

that are important to me.

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Not forgetting someone two years from now

and just not even thinking about it, so

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for me, it's totally different, so when

I jump with you, I'm fully jumping for

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as long as you want to connect with me,

I'm riding that parachute down with you.

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Joshua: It is like jumping from a plane.

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Trust me.

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Bridgit: Pretty much.

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Joshua: I feel like I've done that many

a time, especially being in front of a

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room and speaking about my vulnerability,

and my situations that my audience knows,

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and I've shared with you too, and that

kind of branches into another topic I

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really want to explore with you, which

is about empowering others, so you

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kind of already led into some of those

aspects of it, but I think that for us

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to really be able to become the best

versions of who we are, there's also has

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to be some sort of level of empowerment,

so I guess for you, what would you say

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is that ripple effect that people need

to have in order for that change to

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happen so that they do feel empowered?

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Are there things in your life that

maybe you've learned, or maybe you have

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a situation that you can share that

might help accentuate that point too,

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but I'm curious, what would you say is

that effect that people need to create?

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Bridgit: I think that it's a fully- and

unless you have a coach that is aligned

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with this concept, it's very hard, but

you have to understand I have no power.

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I literally have no power, and

I'm not creating any of it.

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All I'm helping you do is really

open up to the idea of how much power

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you already have, where it exists,

how to tap back into it, how to

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bring it back, because it's yours.

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I love the feeling of, "You

helped me do this, and you helped

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me do that.", but at the end of

the day, I'm not doing anything.

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You are the one that's taking the actions.

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You're the one that's taking the steps.

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You're the one that is realizing how much

power you have, and I think that people

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should remember that, and should just own

that to begin with, and not saying that

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a coach won't help you walk back into it,

figure out what it looks like, what it

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is, but at the end of the day, you are

doing all the work, so own that part of

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it and really celebrate yourself for that,

even on day one of any kind of coaching.

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Just look at like speaking.

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I initially was like, "Oh

yeah, I want to public speak."

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I hate public speaking.

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I literally am terrified of it.

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It's just one of those things I've

been terrified of, and I thought

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it was a path I needed to follow,

and I kept trying to push and try.

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" Somebody helped me find my power in it."

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It's not for me.

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It's not something that I want to

do, so it's like understanding that.

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Do you really want to do

it, like, you love it?

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You love getting up there.

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You love telling people your story

and speaking, then that's awesome,

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but for me, it wasn't that, and

it's part of understanding and

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owning what my real power is.

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My power is not the stage presence.

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My power is behind that, so in

owning which part of that is for you.

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Joshua: Is this the part of the show

where you just rip off your shirt

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and go, "Yes, I'm Wonder Woman!"

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Is that what is going to happen?, because

I almost feel that way when you said that.

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It's like, "We find that hidden

power inside of ourselves."

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Bridgit: I love that.

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That's pretty awesome.

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Joshua: Yeah, yeah, no, I think it

is because I mean, for me, sometimes

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it's ripping off my shirt, like, "Yes.

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I'm Superman.

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I got to figure this out.", and sometimes

I don't have it all figured out too.

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I've had plenty of times

where I feel that way.

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Have you ever wondered though, like if

you did public speak, now that you brought

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it up, because I'm a public speaking

coach myself, do you ever play out in

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your mind of, "if I was that awesome

public speaker", would that change

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your trajectory of who you are today?

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Bridgit: You know what?

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I think that if you asked me that

question, like years ago, when I

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first started, I would say yes.

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Joshua: Yeah.

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Bridgit: All these years advanced in both

age and kind of where you're at in the

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coaching, I think no, because it was never

who I was truly as a person and never who

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I was truly as a coach, and I know where

my power is now, and I don't think so.

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I think I would have been doing

something that years later, I would

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have been like, "Why did I do this?

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It didn't really lead me

to where I wanted to go."

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Same with people who go to school,

become a doctor and they're like,

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"I don't even want to be a doctor.

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Why am I doing this?"

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It's that same concept, but

if you asked me years ago, my

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answer would have been different.

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Now, I would say no to that, but because I

know, like, I've had a little experience.

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Joshua: Yeah.

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Well, yeah, and I think it's trial

by error too, and a lot of people-

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Bridgit: Yes.

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Joshua: That we have, even myself.

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It's been trial by error.

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I thought I was going to be attorney.

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Thank goodness I didn't, because I would

have been probably the worst attorney ever

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because I've been way too compassionate,

probably lost my cases, but I think that

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we all figure out ways in which we are

able to enhance that sort of journey

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that we have, so, if somebody was going

through that, maybe they are stuck in that

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dead end job, or maybe they are stuck in

something that they really didn't want

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to have, what would you do or say to help

inspire them to get on the right path?

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Bridgit: Try everything, because I did.

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When I started, I did not have

a clue what I wanted to do.

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I didn't know, really.

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I just knew, "I might be

a little good at this.

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I might like this."

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I've done everything: seven

network marketing companies.

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I was horrible at network marketing.

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I own a brick and mortar fitness

company, which I actually loved.

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That's what turned into

me actually coaching.

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One of my clients actually said to me,

"You're a life coach,", and I'm like,

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"What is a life coach?", and then I

immediately Googled it and changed

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my life, but I've done everything.

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I've done all the things,

and I don't regret any of it.

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People say, "Oh, but you

wasted so much time."

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I didn't waste any time.

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I realized I didn't know what it was

that I wanted to do, so I tried it all.

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Now I can tell you.

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Don't like that; wasn't good

at that; that's not for me.

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I didn't have those answers before, so

if you have the ability and the freedom

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to try all the things, try it all.

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Life's too short not to try all of it.

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Try public speaking.

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You might love it.

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You might think, "Oh.

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That's so scary!", but you might

get out there and be like, "This

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is my thing, and I didn't know it."

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Write a book.

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I mean, try everything.

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Joshua: This is the part of the show where

I self advertise myself and say, "Yes.

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Please reach out to me for public speaking

coaching at contact@yourspeakingvoice.biz,

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so yes, thank you Bridgit, for that

awesome segue for my own business, but, is

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there something yet, though, you say that

you've done everything, and I believe you.

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I really do.

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I see it with the energy that

you've just shown so far.

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I really believe it, and I can tell

just from that confidence in you.

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It's part of me that I'm like, "Damn.

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I really want that

confidence from her too."

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Is there something that you haven't

tried yet that you really want to try?

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Bridgit: I really want to write

a book, and I've attempted to

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think about it so many times.

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I attempted to start writing things so

many times, and then, there's all these

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things that come in your mind that you're

like, "Nobody wants to hear my story.

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It's not important.

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Why would I share those things?

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How is it relevant?"

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I still have all of that because

it's something I really want to

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do, but I'm not really sure how to

make it happen, so I find excuses.

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Eventually, at some point, I'll have

to move off of the excuses and just do

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it, but I think that's the one thing

that has always been in there, because

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I like the ability for people to hear

or read, what I'm thinking; my words and

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to be moved by it, and at the end of the

day, that's enough, and it doesn't need

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to be something like number one best

seller, but just if it moves a couple

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people, that's enough for me, and I

think that that's what I want to do.

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I'm kind of off the idea of where

I used to share all those things on

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Facebook and all of that, because

it was kind of a place for me almost

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writing, like, almost writing a book,

but I've moved off of that because

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social media platforms have changed so

much over the years, so, yeah; a book.

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Joshua: It's so easy nowadays to be

able to do that, though, with self

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publishing widely available, and you

could even ask ChatGPT to write the

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book for you if you really wanted to.

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Bridgit: I know, that's so scary.

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Joshua: It is scary, and I

would highly discourage that.

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I've had authors on the show already

that have expressed why they do that

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passion, and I guess for many of us, we

have to find that inner voice inside of

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ourselves to really paint that picture of

what we want to share with our- I guess

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with this case, the readers of your book.

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Now, you have this sort of

program where you do revolting

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against the commonalities.

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You could change my opinion of this.

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I almost think of it with my mom's

generation, being hippie generation

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that she grew up in, it's like, "Yeah!

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Flower power!

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Love!

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Peace!", and those were all things in

which that was the rebel generation.

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When you say being this person that

pushes against the status quo, what do

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you mean by that in contemporary society?

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: 00:23:00

Maybe you might need to give that

definition before you explain

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what you do to help others.

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: 00:23:05

Bridgit: I love that you kind of

preface that because when you think

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about the hippie generation, my mom

grew up in that too, but they were

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all doing the same thing, right?

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They were all revolting

in the same exact way.

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That's kind of what they did.

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Now I look at it in a sense of when we

revolt, my revolt looks different than

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yours, and every person that I work

with, everybody's revolt is different,

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and I love that because it's boring

for all the same and we're all saying

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the same things and we're all doing

the same things, and I'm like, what

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is it that you want to revolt against?

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What is the thing?

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I always ask people, "What is the

number 1 thing, if you could say it

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out loud right now, you would say

it?", and usually, in a small group

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of women, everybody stares at me.

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Nobody wants to go first.

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: 00:23:47

Everybody's like, "Do I have

to?", and then as soon as one

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person's free to say, "Oh my God.

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: 00:23:53

If I could just say this, I would

say...", then everybody goes.

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I'm like, that's the thing.

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Start with that.

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That's your personal revolt.

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I don't care what it is.

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: 00:24:00

I don't care if it has to do with your

business, your personal life, if it

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: 00:24:03

has to do with some sort of charity.

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: 00:24:05

Whatever it is, people are so afraid

to be canceled, and so afraid to be

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deemed as they're saying something

negative, when really they're just

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trying to express who they are.

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: 00:24:15

I think we have too much of

that conformity, so that's like

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the first thing I love hearing.

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: 00:24:19

"What's the secret?"

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What's the number one secret that

you want to say that you're just

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too terrified to say out loud?

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Joshua: I had a lot of people tell

me starting out with this podcast,

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when I told them what I was going

to talk about and what I was

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going to do, they're like, "Josh.

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Don't.

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Just don't do it, because you don't

want to be that vulnerable out there.

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People are going to

take advantage of you."

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I have yet to have that happen to

me, and yes, I'm doing this as of

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: 00:24:42

this recording, which will then be

aired later on, but I will tell you

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that even if that did happen, what

would they find out about me that I

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wouldn't tell them already in person?

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I think that's so true what you say

about trying to get people to just

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stand up and speak that truth out

loud, because we're often told, "No.

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Keep it down.

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: 00:25:03

We don't want anybody to hear that.", so

I love that fact that you kind of do that.

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Is that, going back to when you

were 12 and you left the house.

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Does it come from that sort of

mentality, or does it come from just

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other learned experiences that you've

had in your professional career?

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Bridgit: I think it's a culmination of

all of it, but I think it started with

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me just being willing to say the thing

that I wanted to say no matter what.

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: 00:25:30

Obviously when you're little, whatever

comes out of your mouth, you have no idea

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the repercussions of anything that you

can say, but for me, I didn't really care.

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I had a little bit of the, "I don't

really care what the repercussions

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are.", and of course, you learn

a lot of lessons that way.

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You make a lot of mistakes when

you're young, and you make a lot

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of mistakes when you're an adult.

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I mean, we still constantly make

mistakes and that's fine, but I always

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look at it in a sense of I make a

mistake, but I'm doing it from a place

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of authenticity, and it's like, "Okay.

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I can admit I made a mistake, but this

is where I'm at.", I'm okay with that.

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I'm okay with tweaking and turning around.

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We always say, "Making a decision to

say something or do something is 10

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times better, whether it's right or

wrong, than being stagnant and doing

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nothing; saying nothing and doing

nothing", because that's a choice also.

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I just choose to move, and I choose

to help people move, and if the choice

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is wrong, then we'll course correct.

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If it's not in you, you're fine,

then you just keep moving forward.

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We just keep making steps, but it's from

that place of never wanting to be stuck.

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That's just a word that I always used

to use a lot in coaching, like, you

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don't want to be stuck, and you're

stuck because you're making the

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decision not to move, and sometimes

that is by not just speaking.

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: 00:26:45

It's very freeing, sometimes

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: 00:26:47

Joshua: It is; no, it is.

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Were you ever stuck?

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Bridgit: Oh my God.

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Yes.

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Many times.

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: 00:26:54

I think the worst was; I think I was about

four years into my coaching business.

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I had coaches of my own.

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They were directing me in

paths that I should not have

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: 00:27:03

been following in my heart.

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: 00:27:04

I knew that it wasn't me, but

they're the smart ones, right?

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: 00:27:07

I'm following them, and I got to the

point where I was business coaching

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instead of doing what I was doing prior.

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: 00:27:14

I had a group program.

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: 00:27:15

I closed it.

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: 00:27:16

I closed the program or a month

early, and closed the business.

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: 00:27:19

I did not even coach again for two years.

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: 00:27:21

I was so unhappy with myself,

unhappy with where I went,

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and then it became the stuck.

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: 00:27:27

"I'm not good at anything."

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"Nobody wants what I have."

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: 00:27:29

"What makes me unique?"

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All the way through, I knew what

that was, but all of a sudden, I got

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: 00:27:34

trapped in the bubble of the online

space, and it really, really hurt me.

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: 00:27:39

If I was to pull out the two years

of journals that I have for that, you

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: 00:27:42

would read the same things over and

over and over and over and over, and it

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: 00:27:44

was always about, "Why am I stuck here?

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: 00:27:46

Why am I stuck here?", and it happens.

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: 00:27:50

It can happen to anyone.

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: 00:27:51

It happens at any time.

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: 00:27:52

It's just how long do you

want to stay in that spot?

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: 00:27:54

How long do you want to live in the

stuckness, for lack of a better word?

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Joshua: The answer is 32.

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: 00:28:01

That's how long it took me to finally

realize that something needed to change,

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: 00:28:05

so sometimes it takes a lot longer

than others to be able to realize that.

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: 00:28:11

Bridgit: Yeah, and I think some

of it is the tools like, and

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: 00:28:14

also forgetting the tools that we

already inherently have, and we own.

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: 00:28:18

It's forgetting those.

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: 00:28:19

Forgetting we can still utilize

those, like, "Oh, wait a minute.

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: 00:28:23

I am this person.

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: 00:28:24

I have this and I lost it.

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: 00:28:26

How do I get it back?", and then learning

new skills, so yeah, I think that it's

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: 00:28:29

different for everyone, but I think

you experiencing what you did, myself,

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: 00:28:34

there's a little bit of ability to now

share that and say, "You still might

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: 00:28:39

have to go through it for 32 years, or

2 years, depending on your process, but

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: 00:28:43

I'm here to give you some, you know,

half the way through that might be

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: 00:28:46

helpful; might make it faster for you."

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: 00:28:49

Joshua: Well, with that said, there's

one more question I have for you since

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we're almost near the end of our time,

and it is, what would you share to my

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: 00:28:57

listeners if they are stuck in that,

that might help them to get started

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: 00:29:02

back on that path of not only rebelling

from that past conventions that they

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: 00:29:07

have of themselves or others, and

start to explore and empower others?

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What would you say is

really that first step?

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Bridgit: I'm going to always bring it back

to the, what I call the "unsexy work."

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: 00:29:19

It's the non-flashy work

that needs to be done.

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: 00:29:21

It's not sexy.

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: 00:29:22

It's not great.

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: 00:29:23

It is the foundational work of really

honing, and sometimes, and I use this

567

: 00:29:27

with clients, I use certain strengths

tests and personality tests, because

568

: 00:29:31

you'd be surprised at the things that

come out of those; the things that you

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: 00:29:34

remember about yourself, the things that

then you can take and apply and go, "Wow.

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: 00:29:39

I am this person.", and if that part

of it, I always pull people back to

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: 00:29:42

the same thing, especially women.

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: 00:29:45

Find that 12 year old little girl,

and remember her, and who was she?

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What were the things that

you were like, "Oh my God.

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: 00:29:52

I love that about her.

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: 00:29:54

What is that?", because

you still own those things.

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: 00:29:56

They're inherently inside you.

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: 00:29:57

Those are the things that are

going to- when you bring them out,

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: 00:30:01

when you remember that, when I

remembered I was that rebellious,

579

: 00:30:04

like, "I don't have to conform.

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: 00:30:05

I can rebel against anything.

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: 00:30:07

I can say or do anything.

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: 00:30:08

I've done it."

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: 00:30:10

It was like weight lifted off,

and the whole world, it was

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: 00:30:13

like, your mind goes, "Poof!

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: 00:30:15

Holy crap.

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: 00:30:15

I can do whatever.", and it also,

the craziness of not knowing

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: 00:30:19

maybe what you want to do.

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: 00:30:20

Say you want to coach or not knowing

maybe what kind of coaching or what

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: 00:30:23

kind of business you want to open or

whatever that is, all of a sudden you

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: 00:30:26

gain a lot of clarity to where you're

forcing it before you're forcing to try

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: 00:30:31

to figure out what that thing is; what

the thing that you want to do or try is.

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: 00:30:34

It kind of comes a lot more natural.

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: 00:30:38

Joshua: That's really what this is about

is making it natural when it's unnatural

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: 00:30:43

sometimes to do the most extraordinary

things in our lives, so, Bridgit, with

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: 00:30:48

all that said, I really love the fact

that you are leading this sort of life.

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: 00:30:52

I always give my guests an opportunity

to pitch themselves if people are

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: 00:30:56

interested in contacting you or

having interest in any programs that

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: 00:31:00

people have that are being offered.

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: 00:31:02

I mean, I hope at some point you write

that book that you talk about, it's

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: 00:31:06

like I have you back on the show.

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: 00:31:07

We can talk about the book, but if

people are listening today, and they're

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: 00:31:11

interested because of just this awesome

mindset you have and that you're

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challenging both women and men to do

these sort of things, how can people

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: 00:31:19

reach out to you to get connected?

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: 00:31:20

I'll give you the last few

minutes to pitch yourself.

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Bridgit: Super easy for me.

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: 00:31:24

I'm on Facebook and Instagram.

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: 00:31:25

It's Bridgit Norris, B R I D G I T Norris,

and my son picks on me because I'm old.

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: 00:31:31

He said only old people

use Facebook, I guess.

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: 00:31:33

This is the thing.

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: 00:31:34

I utilize Facebook more than Instagram

and the TikToks and all the other

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: 00:31:38

things, but I am on Instagram.

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: 00:31:40

I think the biggest thing is that I don't

spend a lot of time on there, so anybody

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: 00:31:44

who needs anything ever, my email is open.

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: 00:31:47

I'm one of those people where I'm not

going to turn anyone away, so if you need

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: 00:31:51

something, if you have a question, if

you- anything, my email is always open.

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: 00:31:55

I would just tell people to shoot

me an email and I'm here for that.

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: 00:31:59

Joshua: Awesome.

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: 00:32:00

I'll put all that, including your

email that you have, into the episode

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: 00:32:04

notes in case anybody's interested

in reaching out to you, but, listen.

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: 00:32:08

I feel a little bit more rebellious

after talking to you today because I know

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: 00:32:13

for myself, I need to keep doing that.

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: 00:32:15

Keep giving myself that mantra to keep

walking through life, and also have that

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: 00:32:20

voice that I always talk about having that

ability to change the world that is always

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: 00:32:25

changing, and I think that you are on that

path of destiny, regardless of the number

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: 00:32:31

of companies, regardless of the number

of careers you've had, Bridgit, and for

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: 00:32:35

all those reasons, I want to thank you so

much for being on Speaking From The Heart,

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: 00:32:38

and sharing your heart with us today.

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: 00:32:40

I really enjoyed our conversation.

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: 00:32:43

Bridgit: I did too.

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: 00:32:43

Thank you so much.

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: 00:32:44

This was amazing.

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: 00:32:46

Joshua: I want to thank Bridgit

again so much for being part of

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: 00:32:48

the show, and sharing her heart.

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: 00:32:50

Not only about what she has been through

in her life, but to get to where she is

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: 00:32:55

now, and helping other people realize

that deep down inside of themselves,

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: 00:32:59

they're able to change anything if they're

willing to put their heart, mind, and

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: 00:33:03

soul into it, which always leads to the

question, how were you raised growing up?

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: 00:33:09

Are you able to challenge the status quo

of not only the things that you've been

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: 00:33:14

told growing up, but what has changed

since then that you have continued to

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: 00:33:19

lead that path of least resistance?

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: 00:33:21

I think that we get caught up,

especially as we get older, in the

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: 00:33:25

ways in which we're able to hold on

to those well found beliefs that we

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: 00:33:29

know are really the inspiration, the

energy, and even the drive for that

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: 00:33:34

matter, to keep moving the needle

forward, but what really has changed?

646

: 00:33:39

You might even have kids now.

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: 00:33:41

You might even have a different set of

circumstances that face you in terms

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: 00:33:45

of life, and what it's all about, but

how you keep pushing forward, and how

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: 00:33:50

you keep inspiring others, is what

really makes the difference, not only

650

: 00:33:54

in the ways in which you're inspiring

yourself, but those around you as well.

651

: 00:33:59

We have to learn that the online space,

especially when we share that kind of

652

: 00:34:03

conversation, doesn't dictate what we

need to do to be able to be involved

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: 00:34:08

with not only the rebellious spirit

that we have inside of ourselves,

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: 00:34:11

but we need to be able to keep on

moving that desire needle forward.

655

: 00:34:16

We need to be able to understand

that having the right people, the

656

: 00:34:20

right circumstances, if you will, to

create that catalyst for change has

657

: 00:34:25

to come from a place in which we're

always moving ourselves into that

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: 00:34:29

direction that we're wanting to go.

659

: 00:34:32

It means hiring the right people.

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: 00:34:34

It means getting people behind you that

not only are going to help you be that

661

: 00:34:38

rebel, but maybe even be just a nice

person overall, whether it's in your

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: 00:34:43

personal life, your professional life,

whether it's even in your business,

663

: 00:34:46

just as what Bridgit was talking about,

but you have to change your mind to

664

: 00:34:51

be able to address these aspects,

and that means actually opening up

665

: 00:34:55

your mindset, and we've even talked

about with other guests and even other

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: 00:34:59

episodes about the importance of this.

667

: 00:35:01

Here's another fine example of somebody

that has really proven my point of how you

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: 00:35:05

keep moving that needle forward, but the

change that we need to create means that

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: 00:35:11

we have to work on a level that allows

us to create that change, meaning, that

670

: 00:35:16

if we don't have the right circumstances,

the right resources, the right inputs

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: 00:35:20

to be able to do that, then we are going

to fail, and failure is something that

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: 00:35:26

even Bridgit and myself would agree, we

don't ever want to see in our clients.

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: 00:35:32

Coaches have no power though, to be able

to make that influence, which is why it's

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: 00:35:36

so important to understand that failure

doesn't necessarily come from a coach.

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: 00:35:40

It can come from the individual

that is working with that coach.

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: 00:35:44

Now, I have to caveat a few

things with saying that statement.

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: 00:35:47

If the coaches don't have a good program,

in which they are methodically moving that

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: 00:35:51

person forward into the places or even

the individuals that they want to become,

679

: 00:35:55

of course it's going to create problems.

680

: 00:35:57

Of course it's going to not only wreak

havoc in the things that they're trying

681

: 00:36:00

to achieve, but of course the actions

that they're going to take as clients

682

: 00:36:04

are never going to be successful.

683

: 00:36:06

That's why it's so important for my

coaches out there that you have a good

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: 00:36:10

program that'll allow you to not only

articulate what you have as offerings,

685

: 00:36:15

but it gives you a roadmap for that

client to understand where the value is.

686

: 00:36:20

Some of my other coaching

friends would even agree.

687

: 00:36:23

If you are not adding value and you're

regurgitating the same material that

688

: 00:36:26

someone else is already doing, what

is it that you're bringing to the

689

: 00:36:30

table that really allows them to see

themselves reach their full potential?

690

: 00:36:36

Whether you're in the fitness industry,

marketing industry, or some other

691

: 00:36:40

industry in which you're helping others

provide a service, you have to realize

692

: 00:36:44

that networking with other individuals

so that you are learning and growing and

693

: 00:36:50

not only working on your craft, but also

inspiring others, will help you to move

694

: 00:36:55

yourself into the direction that you

need to be, but even with the coaching

695

: 00:37:00

piece set for my clients, you have to

be able to understand that the power

696

: 00:37:05

that you have, that manifest destiny

if you will, of the unlimited potential

697

: 00:37:10

that you can create through a coach,

lies strictly on you to carry through.

698

: 00:37:16

While many coaches would tell you

that you have to follow the plan point

699

: 00:37:20

by point by point, it's always about

understanding that there's a level of

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: 00:37:24

flexibility that adapts to your ability

that you have, because we are not all

701

: 00:37:30

created equally, and I think that's one

thing that coaches miss the mark on.

702

: 00:37:35

I'm not a rebel.

703

: 00:37:37

Bridgit is the rebel and I will always

go to her if I want to be the rebel.

704

: 00:37:41

I'm the person that wants

to create order from chaos.

705

: 00:37:45

I want to help people figure out where

they want to go in life, find the best

706

: 00:37:49

versions of themselves, but at the same

token, keep moving that needle forward

707

: 00:37:54

in regards to finishing what they have

started, just as we talked about with

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: 00:37:59

the previous interview episode, which I

had Juanita Gaynor on, talking about that

709

: 00:38:03

concept, but the real question becomes:

What is it that you want to do to help

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: 00:38:09

others to create those authentic lives?

711

: 00:38:12

It's really simple, and Bridgit

even said it: speak the truth.

712

: 00:38:17

The worst thing you could ever do,

whether you're on the client side

713

: 00:38:20

or on the coaching side, is to lie,

to make promises in which you can't

714

: 00:38:25

keep, and even the worst thing

you could ever do, is misrepresent

715

: 00:38:30

what you are bringing to the table.

716

: 00:38:33

My proposals always bring a set

of terms and conditions, but more

717

: 00:38:37

importantly, the process in which

we're going to walk through.

718

: 00:38:41

It doesn't mean that we always

follow that process to exact T, but

719

: 00:38:45

yet, every time that we cross the

T's and dot the I's, we're making

720

: 00:38:49

progress in the right direction.

721

: 00:38:51

Sometimes it takes a little bit

longer for some clients over others

722

: 00:38:54

to be able to achieve that, so you

have to be patient with the process.

723

: 00:38:59

Don't immediately throw the towel

in, thinking that you're not

724

: 00:39:02

ever going to make any successful

moves, or push yourself into the

725

: 00:39:05

right direction for that matter.

726

: 00:39:07

You have to learn to not only respect

the process, but to speak the truth

727

: 00:39:12

about that process, so that the

people that you're working with know

728

: 00:39:16

exactly what the deliverables are.

729

: 00:39:19

Don't just stand there and say

nothing though at the same time.

730

: 00:39:23

You got to keep moving forward, and

it's usually pretty easy for us to keep

731

: 00:39:28

moving forward, especially if we have

the motivation to be able to do so.

732

: 00:39:33

We have to gain the clarity

in being able to do that.

733

: 00:39:37

And I will tell you, even from a

personal experience, being able to

734

: 00:39:41

find clarity is usually very hard, when

you're in the forest, not being able

735

: 00:39:47

to see one foot in front of the other.

736

: 00:39:50

It's like a heavy fog, if you

will, to keep on going with

737

: 00:39:54

my weather terms for today.

738

: 00:39:56

We keep on seeing what's ahead, but yet

a dense fog immediately moves inside

739

: 00:40:01

our path and distorts our ability to

keep moving forward as well, because

740

: 00:40:07

we can't quite get the right footing,

remember the terrain that we're supposed

741

: 00:40:11

to walk, and we need to be able to hold

ourselves accountable with a coach,

742

: 00:40:16

to be able to navigate whether it is

through a forest, or through thick fog.

743

: 00:40:21

What can you do, especially

remembering who you are from the

744

: 00:40:25

past, in order to create the best

version of who you are today?

745

: 00:40:29

That is the ultimate question that

we're asking here, and whether you

746

: 00:40:33

think that it's a very long, drawn out

process, or if it's easy to do with the

747

: 00:40:37

snap of a finger, you have to realize

that sometimes it's easier said than

748

: 00:40:43

done, and that the hard work that

needs to be accomplished takes time.

749

: 00:40:48

It takes diligence.

750

: 00:40:49

It takes the persistence to keep moving

on, knowing that that memory of what

751

: 00:40:54

you thought it was long ago can be

distorted and warped into something

752

: 00:40:59

completely different than what it is

today that you're trying to achieve.

753

: 00:41:04

I have said long ago about the importance

of figuring out what it means to find your

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: 00:41:09

authentic voice, and it means that you

have to find your own individuality, your

755

: 00:41:14

own idea, which is why I've always said,

I love talking to coaches on this show.

756

: 00:41:21

I'm not equal to what Bridgit

is, and Bridgit is rocking it.

757

: 00:41:25

She's doing things that she would

have never ever thought possible if

758

: 00:41:28

it wasn't for the fact that she wants

to help empower others, not only to

759

: 00:41:33

find that authentic voice, not only

to break the limitations that clients

760

: 00:41:37

might have, but the potential that we

all have inside of ourselves sometimes

761

: 00:41:42

means that we have to surround ourselves

with the right people, the right

762

: 00:41:46

circumstances, at the right time.

763

: 00:41:51

For so long, we can always say to

ourselves that we need to do this and

764

: 00:41:55

we need to do that, in order to achieve

what that best version of ourselves

765

: 00:41:59

are, but when you don't have the right

roadmap, and the roadmap itself changes

766

: 00:42:04

because of enhancements that are done

over the years, I can understand why

767

: 00:42:09

some people get lost along the way.

768

: 00:42:12

Technology has helped so much to get

people back on track, especially if

769

: 00:42:16

they're on that wonderful road trip,

which in a future episode, we'll even

770

: 00:42:19

talk about the importance of why it's

needed to have that map to be able

771

: 00:42:24

to guide yourself, especially when

you're on a cross country adventure

772

: 00:42:27

of self exploration, but hear me out.

773

: 00:42:32

Even if you have somebody in the passenger

side, helping you to navigate to where you

774

: 00:42:36

need to be, that is really a great idea

if you think about it, because sometimes

775

: 00:42:43

when you get lost, it's okay to have

somebody that you can turn to, especially

776

: 00:42:47

when you need help the most, but when

you're a rebel, and you're defying the

777

: 00:42:53

odds, and you're pushing the boundaries,

not only are you a radical thinker,

778

: 00:42:59

but you're chasing a dream that, of all

dreams, you deserve to have, and I think

779

: 00:43:05

that's pretty damn worthy of you to be

able to do that, because let's face it.

780

: 00:43:10

With a life that is full of unlimited

potential and limitless possibilities, I

781

: 00:43:15

would want Brigit by my side, because I

would want to be a rebel as well: finding

782

: 00:43:20

people's voices in this ever changing

world, and creating relationships,

783

: 00:43:24

confidence, and determination to change

not only the voices that we have deep

784

: 00:43:28

inside of ourselves, dating all the

way back from childhood, but helping

785

: 00:43:33

others to find what their authentic

voice is to shout it from any forest,

786

: 00:43:40

any dense fog, but more importantly,

what they are able to do to help

787

: 00:43:45

others realize their full potential.

788

: 00:43:49

Thanks for listening to episode

number 108 of Speaking From the

789

: 00:43:53

Heart, and I look forward to

hearing from your heart, very soon.

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: 00:43:57

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791

: 00:43:58

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: 00:44:03

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793

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795

: 00:44:12

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: 00:44:15

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: 00:44:18

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