Episode #114 - Planning For The Jerky & Chocolate Chip Moments Of Our Lives: An Interview With Casey Weiss

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Welcome to the podcast where relationships, confidence, and

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determination all converge into

an amazing, heartfelt experience.

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This is Speaking From The Heart.

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Joshua: Welcome back to episode

number 114 of Speaking From The Heart.

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Today we have Casey Weiss with us,

and Casey is a certified holistic

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nutritionist and life coach who

lives in Northern California.

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She runs her practice, Your Case

for Wellness, where she offers

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private and group coaching services.

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After almost a decade of struggling

with eating disorders and body

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image issues, she knew there must

be a better way to approach health.

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This is what propelled her

back to studying nutrition.

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Casey focuses on working with

women who are ready to stop the

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yo-yo struggle and finally make

peace with food in their bodies.

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She helps women to learn to eat

in a way that promotes overall

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health, as well as weight loss.

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She found that what was missing in the

health coaching space were coaches and

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programs that emphasize the importance

of mindset, and holistic behaviors,

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in tandem with food and exercise.

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She now coaches women from all over the

world on how they can truly feel their

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best, from the inside out, and stress less

about food, so they can live their life

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to the fullest, and I have to say, this

really spoke to the heart of not only my

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struggles, which, for those that don't

know me personally, have always struggled

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with weight and trying to feel comfortable

about my body image, but it also gets

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to the heart of a lot of things that we

often take for granted about eating, and

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why we even binge eat for that matter.

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I think Casey has the right idea when she

talked about in today's episode of the

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importance of working in tandem with not

just what we have as that nutrition plan,

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but also working on the mental mindset

that is often missing, that often leads

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us back into those temptations that we

should never have, but what I love about

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this the most is that when we get to the

heart of really what is going on, not only

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with this sort of epidemic that we have

as problems with our food, and trying to

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disassociate with it, but it really helps

us to understand that we can do this in a

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creative combination sense, which I will

let her tell you what that is all about.

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But with that, let's go to the episode.

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Alright, we're here with Casey Weiss.

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Casey, thanks for sharing

your heart with us today.

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Casey: Thank you so much for having me.

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I'm so happy to be here.

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Joshua: I'm so happy that you are too,

and I had already let the audience know

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a little bit about your background,

and I think the biggest pressing

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question that I'm sure people are asking

themselves right now is, what got you

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into struggling with your body image and

just having issues with food, because

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I don't know about you, but if you're

looking at me, I look like a very plump

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person, so I have the opposite problem

and I'm kind of working on that, but

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I'm kind of curious what you have been

through to get to where you are today.

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Casey: Yeah, so it started when I was

back in high school and for so much

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of my life, I was just very active.

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I grew up in a home where my mom didn't

emphasize dieting, but did provide a

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lot of balanced and healthy options as

well as treats in my own home, but I

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ended up going actually in a trip to

Ecuador; community service trip, and it

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was the first time I started noticing

other girls not finishing the food on

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their plate, and I was like, "Should I

not be finishing the food on my plate?",

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and they've kind of started out of this

comparison; very common for a teenage

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girl, right, and I started to restrict,

but not in an obsessive way, and then

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when I came back from this trip, I

got a lot of notice, cause I had lost

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weight and I was getting noticed from

my body in a way that I hadn't before,

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and I kind of fueled off of getting that

attention, and it led into a spiral of

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severe restriction, and what ended up

happening though, was I went down that

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path for several years and then eventually

my body was rebelling because after that

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restriction, that deprivation, my body was

like screaming that it needed more fuel.

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My hormones were completely imbalanced.

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My metabolism had completely tanked and

I needed fuel, so to speak, and so it got

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to a point where I felt like I wasn't able

to ignore my hunger cravings that I once

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was able to kind of not listen to, and

then that led to a cycle of overeating

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and feeling like I was out of control with

food, but I kept thinking like, "Okay, my

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solution just to go back to my old ways.

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Just restrict.

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Just go back on MyFitnessPal, calorie

counting everything, restricting to a

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very, very low calorie count, but what

ended up happening is I would maybe

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do that for a day, a couple of days,

whatever, and then all of a sudden

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these urges would come back, and I

kept trying to fight myself internally,

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because I was just so obsessed with

being this smaller version of myself.

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I thought that would equate my self worth.

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I thought that was beauty, and I continued

on this cycle for a long time until I

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realized that something had to change,

and I was introduced to the concept

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of intuitive eating, which if you're

not familiar with intuitive eating,

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intuitive eating is a practice that

has 10 main principles, but focuses

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on anti diet and how you can more

listen to your body, and this really

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helped me to quiet the diet police.

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It really helped me to understand

better my hunger and fullness cues.

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It really helped me to be able

to make peace with food, but,

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at the same time, I still wasn't

where I want to be in my body.

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I had gained weight to a point

that felt uncomfortable in my own

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body, and so that's when I kind

of dove into the holistic route.

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I worked with a holistic

practitioner and was able to

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see how I can not be obsessive.

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I cannot be dieting, but I don't have to

not think about food either, cause I'd

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always been passionate about nutrition

and about food in general, so this way,

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I was able to understand like, "Okay.

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There's nothing wrong with focusing

on foods that will fuel you, that make

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you feel good, that provide you energy,

that help balance your blood sugar,

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your hormones, and help to accomplish

your aesthetic goals", but we can also

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do that in a way that's not obsessive,

not restrictive, not counting anything,

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and once I was able to understand that

there could be balance of this, that

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everything like really clicked for me.

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It wasn't like just the intuitive.

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It wasn't dieting by any means, and with

that, I got so inspired to go back and

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get my own nutrition certifications,

and then go on to coach women to be able

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to have these similar success stories.

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Joshua: You mentioned something about

traveling, and seeing the plight of

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actually other women or even other people

actually having less food, and I'm kind

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of curious, just your observations and

your curiosity with this, because I feel

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like even here in the United States,

when we think about food, we think about

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these images and this goes back to even

times when we were looking at magazines.

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We're looking at pop icons.

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They're ones that are super slim,

super thin, and even for me, on

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the masculine side, like these guys

that have big muscles, they are

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able to do all kinds of things.

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Do you think that plays a big role in what

you work with, especially with clients

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that are women in nature that might be

trying to also get over that stigmatism

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that might have been surrounded by

all these different images growing up?

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Casey: Absolutely.

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The images are pervasive, and

we really can't escape them.

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They've always been present, right, in

magazines, on posters, but now we see

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them in our feed 24/7, and so this

is affecting our personal body image,

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and also distorting our perception of

reality, because so much, what we do,

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what we post online, like who posts

a picture of themselves that doesn't

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make them look good, and that's not

even including all the filters and

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augmentation of images that happens,

so, and there's nothing wrong with that.

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I don't want to post a picture where

I look like crap, but at the same

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time, I don't like to use filters, for

example, or I'm very explicit if I do.

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Nothing that actually alters my images;

it might be more like a color kind of

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thing, and I'm open with my audience about

that, and the thing is is that though,

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it can be so subtle, and it's not just

comparison of image or bodies, but also of

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our lifestyle, and so this can also make

you feel like, "Oh, she just eats such

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normal food, and she looks like that",

because the girl posts these beautiful

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pictures of herself eating her pizza

and her French fries, and you don't know

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what she's actually eating in the end.

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That's not to say that you shouldn't

be able to eat the pizza and the French

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fries, because that's exactly what I

teach people to do, to be able to eat

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what they like and crave, but not in a way

that makes them not feel good, but it is

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absolutely apparent that these images that

are surrounding us affect our perception

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of reality, how we treat ourselves and how

we talk to ourselves, and that connects

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to what's something I'm so passionate

about, which is the mindset component

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of nutrition, because as a certified

nutritionist, obviously, I could talk all

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day about food and the components of food.

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I can do all the new nutritional, micro

macro nutrient breakdowns, help you to

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understand foods for longevity, anti

aging, bloating, digest whatever you want

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to know, but at the end of the day, what

I saw was so missing in the space were

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people that were focused on, yes, teaching

you how you can build a balanced plate;

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deal with whatever restrictions you may

have, whether it's time restrictions,

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just overall food preferences or not,

but if you feel like crap about yourself,

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if you aren't prioritizing yourself,

if you don't have proper boundaries, if

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you are trying to cope with emotional

things and just always turn to food,

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if you deal with anyone or multiple

of those things, plus more, right?

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You're still going to utilize food, not

just as nourishment, and I believe food

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is more than just fuel, but so many of

us use it for way, way more than fuel.

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We use it literally as our friend.

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We use it because we don't want to

deal with other shit that's going on

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in our life, and so it's much easier

to just like eat the food and get

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that temporary dopamine rush and feel

good about ourselves, and then we

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feel like crap about ourselves later.

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Joshua: I have to stop you there, because

I resonate with that so much with what

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you said, because I use that sometimes

too, and that's something that I've

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been working on personally is, "Okay.

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Why is it that I am

always attracted to food?"

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"Oh, it's because I need to fulfill

something in my life", but that's not

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going to fulfill me in just the long term.

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I'm thinking just immediate short

term burst of dopamine or sugar,

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whatever the case is, as I'm

literally holding a soda right now.

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Casey: Yeah.

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Joshua: The audience doesn't see that,

but you see that, but yeah, I get that,

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because sometimes we're so stuck in

what those things are, because those

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are the comforts, I feel, of what we

might have been attuned to growing up.

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I mean, didn't you say to me just

earlier about being in high school and

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kind of having that sort of thought

process too of, "Well, you know.

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Everybody else is doing it.

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I don't really feel comfortable

eating food, though, because I

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want to have this slim image."

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I felt that way, too, in high school.

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I actually, and I've let my audience know

this, that I even refused to go to the

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lunch table to eat in front of others.

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I was just so ashamed of that.

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Casey: Yeah, and we know that we think

about ourselves way more than others

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are thinking about us, but at the same

time, especially in young adolescents,

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there's just so much one upping culture,

but that it's less obvious as you get

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older, but it's still there and we need

to be honest with ourselves and what

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our true intentions are because there's

nothing wrong with wanting to lose weight.

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Most of the women who come to me who

I work with do want to lose weight,

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but they need to have a bigger why,

and they need to be doing it for the

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right reasons and in the right way.

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If you're just wanting to lose weight

because you want to fit into the jeans

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from high school, well, your body's

changed and you should not be comparing

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yourself to your high school body.

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I've had times when people come to me

for coaching and it's like, "Well, I

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used to look like this and whatever.",

but I'm like, "When was that?"

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They're like, "Oh, when I was like 18."

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You shouldn't be looking

like that anymore.

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You're a woman now.

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You're not a teenager and that's amazing.

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That's beautiful, so, but there's

nothing wrong with having aesthetic

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goals, and that's where I kind of

took issue with some of the intuitive

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eating practitioners, and again, I

think intuitive eating is fantastic

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and just those principles on their own.

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People can just do intuitive eating and

that works for them, but then there's

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almost a demonizing in the intuitive

eating community of then wanting to

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care about your aesthetics, or like

anything wrong with losing weight.

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There's nothing wrong with losing

weight, again, if it's done in a

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healthy manner and if it's done for the

right reasons, and so I want to give

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women, and empower women, in that way.

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Joshua: Yeah, and finding the right

reason to do that is often the biggest

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challenge because we're all having these

ideas, and having these viewpoints, that

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are swimming around us and also hitting

us in the face of, "You must do this.

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You must do that.", and that can be

challenging to stay consistent with

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that, and what you said made me think

of this to ask you because I often have

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this happen to me too, where I fall

off the path, and, for my listeners,

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actually, what I'll do is I will have

a picture of me when I actually did

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the counting the calories sort of

diet and lost over a hundred pounds.

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It got to be about 155, 160, Casey.

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I was completely different from what I

am today on what you said, but do you

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feel that when people are trying to

set these goals, they sell themselves a

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little short, and what I mean by asking

that question is, they think like,

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"Oh, well, if I just lose 20 pounds,

I'll feel a lot better about myself."

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I feel like there's so much more

to it than just putting a number to

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it, because I think every time that

we hear as a culture about, "Oh.

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Get to the next diet.

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Lose 50 pounds in 6 to 8 weeks."

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Well, there's a lot of numbers being

thrown around and a lot of assumptions,

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so, what do you say to those sort

of commercials, or that dispellment?

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I know there's so much social

media out there that kind of

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tries to push that even today.

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How do you message differently with

that, and get people to come on board,

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especially women that you work with?

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Casey: Yeah, so, I mean, my messaging

is pretty clear online that I'm not

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like, "lose weight fast" coach or

practitioner, but the thing is, is that,

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still there, can be some ambiguity.

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It's like, "Okay, yeah, I don't feel good.

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I want to stop yo yoing.

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I want to stop in this struggle, but I

don't know what I want to do, or how to do

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this?", so we clear up their why, right?

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Is the why because you are feeling so

exhausted, feeling so depleted of energy?

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You want to stop in this

rat race, yo-yo cycle.

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You're noticing the

inflammation is doing your body?

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Like, we need to list the whys, and

those whys, there can be some whys that

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are related to your physical appearance,

but we need to have most of them not

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related to that, because your physical

appearance, particularly your weight

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on the scale, is going to fluctuate.

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That doesn't mean that the overall

trend isn't going to be going downward,

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but it's going to fluctuate, so if

you're just using your weight on the

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scale as your worth, and as your means

of your success, you are going to be

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disappointed, so that doesn't mean that

you can never weigh yourself, but I don't

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want you weighing yourself all the time.

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I don't want that to be

your main motivator, or your

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main indicator of success.

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Instead, what we want to do is say, like,

if from physical motivators, better things

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would be like in terms of muscle building.

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It could be how clothes are fitting,

but even more like how you're able

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to now run longer, or lift heavier

weights, or try that new exercise class

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from certain physical perspective, and

from food, like, going out to eat and

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not feeling so freaking full after;

understanding how to use the hunger

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fullness scale so that you're able to eat

in tune with your body and be mindful.

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How can you be able to wake

up with energy, get better

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sleep, feel more hydrated?

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Maybe it's just getting

in more vegetables.

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Maybe you're noticing the different

colors on your plate that you're getting.

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You have better digestion.

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You're pooping better.

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You're pooping regularly.

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Joshua: Everybody poops.

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Remember that, kids.

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Casey: Yeah, everybody

poops, but it's true.

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We really need to understand that our

health is so much greater than the

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physical, and that doesn't mean we can't

include the physical as a metric of

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success, because yeah, it's going to be

motivating and there's nothing- again, I

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said, and I'll say for the millionth time,

there's nothing wrong with having that be

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a motivator, but if we are just so stuck

about that, we're going to be continually

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disappointed, because also, there's

parts that are so out of our control.

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As we age, our body's going to change in

ways that we like and don't like, and if

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you're equating all of your success with

just your physical appearance, it's going

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to be really freaking hard to be happy.

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Joshua: I resonate with

that so much personally.

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I don't know about my audience, but

I'm speaking for myself for a second.

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I'm being a little selfish.

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I resonate with that because I was

always ashamed even standing in front of

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a mirror, and being like, "Why can't I

just look at myself and be beautiful the

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way I am?", and I know that's kind of

weird because a male is saying that, and

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I get that, but it's the same principle.

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I think that men go through this

too, so my men audience out there,

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I think Casey saying some good

stuff here to think about, you know.

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It isn't just about the

colors on your plate.

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It's not just about the things

that you put in your body.

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It's about how you really feel about

yourself, so I think it's so important

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to do that, but I want to talk about

your business, so I love this business

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name: Your Case For Wellness, and

obviously, it's a play on your first

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name: C A S E as opposed to C A S E Y.

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First off, you could have

said to yourself, "Yeah.

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I'm getting this certification.

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I could go work for a company.

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I could help other people realize their

fitness and nutritional goals through

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this.", and I've had fitness instructors

on the show, and even those that are

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owners, and they tell about their novel

story and their concept, which you

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have an awesome opportunity to work

with other people as well, but why?

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Why start your own business?

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There's thousands of these people out

here, Casey, and I know, that seems

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a little cliche to be like, "well,

there's already these other people.

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Why are you in business?", but honestly,

why do you do what you do, and I know

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you touched on this earlier, but remind

us again, why you're doing this for

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yourself in the business that you started?

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What's the impact that you're making?"

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Casey: Yeah, so I just know what it's

like to struggle and feel so stuck and

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that there's no way out, and it was

so scary as someone who had dieted for

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years and restricted and that's the only

way that I saw success in liking how

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I looked, to step away from dieting.

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That feels really fricking scary, and the

only way I was able to do that was when I

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was able to get the guidance of someone,

because you have a container of security.

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The calorie counting, the macro counting,

the diet plan, gives you this false sense

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of security, because it's like a boundary.

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It's a metric of success, so you

can say, "Hmm, I checked the boxes.

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I clicked this, whatever the day.",

so when you will go away from

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that, it's really freaking scary.

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You're like, "What means success?

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What am I supposed to do?

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Is it right?

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Is it wrong?

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Is it bad?

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Is it good?", which I like to get

away from those black and white,

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that kind of thinking, anyway.

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Joshua: Yes or no, maybe so.

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Yeah.

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I get-

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Casey: Yeah.

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Joshua: Yeah.

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Stay away from those; try to at least.

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Casey: Exactly, and so my

whole goal is to empower women.

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That's what I do every day so that you can

be able to achieve your health and goals

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and not feel like you're on this constant

yo-yo struggle, so you can achieve

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health for the rest of your life and your

longevity, because when women work with

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me, they work with me for a certain period

of time and their goal, and what my aim

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is, is they work with me and then they

move on from working with me, and they

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don't have to work with me again, because

they have the skills for the rest of

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their life, versus how many times have you

downloaded MyFitnessPal and then stopped

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using it, and had to go back to using it?

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How many times have you went

back to Weight Watchers?

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How many times have you went back

to Keto, low carb, getting the

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meal delivery service, because

you have to keep going back to it,

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because you think like, "Oh well.

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It worked that time."

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Well, if it worked, you wouldn't

have to keep going back.

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It would have worked.

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It would have been done, right?

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I want to get people out of struggle.

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I want them to stop with the same things

that are causing them so much pain,

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because as I talked about before, it is as

much physical as mental pain and struggle;

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even probably more mental pain and

struggle, right, and our health, and our

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brain, and our mindset are so intertwined,

and it is not recognized enough.

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It is not approached in a way that is

a whole body, holistic approach, and

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that is why so many of us are failing.

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We're are truly just failing at

being healthy, because we either

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think of health as just weight

loss and it's not our fault.

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That is what's being shown to us in

the media, and like, think about it.

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The doctor just puts you on a scale and

says with your BMI, whether or not you're

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healthy, and that's not true either.

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Joshua: Nope.

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Casey: There's nothing

to do; like not nothing.

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There are correlations for sure.

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Of course there's correlations, but

it is by no means the be all end all,

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and so much of our healthcare system

is; most of it is not preventative.

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Joshua: Yeah.

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Casey: It's great to have the options once

you are sick, of course, but what are we

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doing to not get there in the first place?

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Yes, again, if aesthetics can help

motivate you to just be healthier, that's

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great, but we all know that there's

more to health than just that, and so

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let's utilize that to our advantage.

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Joshua: You touch on something that I

always think about, which is about 30

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years ago, the documentary, which I know

many people are going to probably message

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me afterwards and go, "Josh, can't believe

you bring this up.", but Supersize Me,

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and that was sort of some of the premise

of what Morgan Spurlock even said too, is

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that we are so worried about fixing what

the problem is right now, but not doing

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anything preventatively, so, no matter

what people want to say about that, which

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I know some of it was staged and later

was found out and some of it was staged,

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but, to be honest, there were still some

good points, and that's exactly what I

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feel, 30 some years later, we are still

talking about this and we haven't really

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done a good job of being preventative,

so let's have that conversation now.

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Let me ask you, what are some

things, especially for some of my

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people that are listening to this

now, they might be thinking, "Yeah.

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Casey's got a point.", and they look at

themselves in the mirror and they go,

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"I need to really start doing something

now to prevent this from happening."

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what are some just easy things that

they could do, and what are some things

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that maybe even just say to other

women that you take on as clients,

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that you say to them that can be

just some easy wins starting out?

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Casey: Yeah, so one thing I would say

that can be really beneficial is to have,

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not a food journal with food, but just

start a food thought journal, so before

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you eat, just try this for two days.

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Before you eat, how hungry do you

feel, on a scale of one to 10, and

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where are you, location wise, and

what are you feeling, before eating?

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You'll notice such a difference in terms

of how this affects your eating behaviors,

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and it's about understanding patterns.

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Simply writing down what you ate

in terms of broad strokes, right?

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We're not getting into like measuring

the half a cup of quinoa, so the thing

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is that this allows you to say, "I'm

realizing like whenever I sit down to my

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desk, I don't really think about what I'm

eating, and I just eat the whole thing."

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what the best is to then to do after

you eat, also then check in with

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your scale of one to 10 how full you

feel and like your emotions there.

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This provides a lot of perspective

into what situations trigger you to eat

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certain types of foods, and this allows

you to help do some self coaching,

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without even working with anyone, getting

and recognizing your triggers and what

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may be leading to certain behaviors.

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Now in terms of with actual food,

I recommend to focus every meal

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and snack on protein, fat, and

fiber rich carbohydrates, so how

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can you all their meals have at

least 20 plus grams of protein?

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That's the only thing I ever want

you to think numbers wise, and you

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don't need counted out, but just be

cognizant of it with portion sizes.

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That's roughly like if you're talking

about meat, like that's a roughly a deck

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of cards size of protein; it's like a

cup of Greek yogurt, protein powder.

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It's like four ounces of tofu.

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I can go on and on about

protein sources, and then get

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some fiber-rich carbohydrates,

so that comes in plant foods.

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We can get fiber-rich carbohydrates

in all sorts of veggies and fruit,

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and fruits it's mostly berries

are more fiber-rich carbohydrates.

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Other fruit is great, but not

necessarily giving us our fiber.

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We get beans, legumes, lentils, and

then fats, so let's get healthy fats

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of avocado, coconut, nuts and seeds,

olives, and then from there, once we

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hit all of those nutritional baselines,

then we add a number of things to it.

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It's not about just having that, but

how can we then add in the other things

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that we want to have to round out the

meal for it to be delicious, so even

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if you're like, "I want potato chips."

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Okay.

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You want some potato chips, so how can

we maybe pair them with almonds so that

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we get some healthy fats, a little bit

of protein, or maybe you want a sweet

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and salty thing, so you have it with

some jerky and chocolate chips, right,

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like, you know, whatever, making a sweet

and salty kind of trail mix; that's

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not really traveling, so, you know what

I mean, like some type of situation.

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People have some weird questions

for cravings and whatnot.

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Joshua: I was going to say,

jerky and chocolate chips.

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Hmm.

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I feel like I know what I'm doing

after we're done recording here.

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Casey: But like, so you want pasta.

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Great, but like, what can we maybe

add some tofu, or some chicken,

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to it so that we get some protein?

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You're probably using butter and some

cheese, which is going to get some fat on

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it, and then how can we get some fiber?

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Steam some broccoli or

spinach and throw it in there.

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This will help us to naturally feel more

satisfied, so we therefore have less

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cravings, and our hormones are balanced

that we can have balanced blood sugar,

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which is key for overall longevity

and health, and when we round out our

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meal, we are able to then not need

to eat as much of the pasta, without

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having this mindset of restriction.

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It's not like, "Oh my God, I can't eat the

whole thing of pasta.", but if you're just

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eating the pasta, if you're only eating

butter noodles, you're going to have to

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eat a lot more than if you eat the butter

noodles with some spinach and chicken.

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Again, we can get really creative

with it, but you're going to need

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more because you're not going to be

satisfied because you're not going

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to have the other nutrients that

signal the hormones in your body for

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satisfaction, because, otherwise, of

course you're going to want more and more.

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You're not feeding your body what it

needs, so again, it's not about taking

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out the simple carbohydrates, the

sweets, the treats that you have, but

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balancing them out in a way that honors

your body, your health, and honestly,

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provides more flavor for your food.

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Joshua: Yeah, and we want to have not only

that enrichness of all those different

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flavors, because let's face it, that's

why even going all the way back in time,

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having some sort of sweetener, having

some sort of salt, pepper, I mean, those

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are all combinations in which we did a

lot of trade way back in colonial times

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that kind of built what society and what

it is, and we still look out for those

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exotic tastes even today, so, I think

it's so true that we can build those

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combinations, and I literally wrote down

weird combinations happen on my notes,

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because I feel that we can have some

weird opportunities, but those can be

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the most fulfilling opportunities when we

can think of things that are unlike what

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traditional mainstream things usually we

have that gets slammed down our throat.

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We can try to do something different.

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We can like something different for

even our bodies for that matter,

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so I love what you're saying

because those are all true things.

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Casey, we're almost out of time, but I

want to ask you this one final question

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because it's on my mind, and it's been

on my mind since even before we started

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recording because I was looking at some

of your Instagram posts for your business,

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and I was really profoundly shocked by

what you looked like, just about a decade

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or so ago, dealing with all the different

things that you must have had going on,

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and I feel that our audience that listens

to this has learned from many different

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other people the wide perspectives of what

they do and how they achieve things, and

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I usually ask questions along those lines,

but I want to ask you something a little

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bit different than I usually don't ask, so

be ready for this, but when you're in the

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moment where you were just eating yourself

alive, essentially, because you had all

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these disorders that you were dealing

with, it seemed like to me that maybe

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you just weren't happy with maybe things

that were going on, and I'm not asking

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you to talk about what was going on.

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What I'm actually asking you is,

think about who that person was before

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and who I'm talking to right now.

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What would you say is the biggest

difference between your past version

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of yourself, and who you are today,

and from that, what would you say to

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our audience that if they're struggling

with something like you have struggled

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with, can you give them some words

of encouragement that maybe they can

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see the other side like you have?

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Casey: Yeah.

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Something that really resonate is

nothing changes if nothing changes,

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and for me, it's very cliche, but like

the definition of insanity is doing

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the same thing and expecting different

results, and that's what I kept doing.

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It was the disguise of something

different; a different type of diet, a

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different type of exercise plan, and the

thing though is it was all within the

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same category of dieting, of restriction.

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Not digging deeper, and what we need to

do is do the hard shit of recognizing

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what the root cause is of our eating

behaviors, so for me, a lot of people

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when they talk about eating disorders,

there's certain things that are negatively

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going in their life, and there are certain

things that obviously have happened, but

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it actually started, really, from a sense

of control, and that's what a lot of times

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what happens is control, but maybe other

things are out of control in your life.

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For me, when I originally started

was when I wanted control in every

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aspect of my life, because I was

getting school records in track.

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I was getting the best grades I ever had.

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I felt like I could control every

aspect of my life and I could control

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this as well., And it felt like I

was on top of the world being able

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to control everything, and then it

became a coping mechanism when things

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weren't going well, that was also

something that I could control, and I

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bring that up because a lot of times

people are like, "Well, it couldn't

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be an eating disorder because...."

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It's not like a mental health

related thing, beause I'm not having

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bad things going on in my life.

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Joshua: Yeah.

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Casey: And that's not true, like,

obviously, it just how we cope and

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deal with things, and it's something

I've had to deal with in other ways.

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I'm over it with food, but I still

sometimes get a need for control in

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other ways in my life, but I'm very

well aware that this is a thing, like

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I'm very well aware when it's happening

and so I'm able to talk myself through

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it, especially with my partner.

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He's well aware of it, and it's whenever

something comes up and I'm like, "This

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is because of my control.", and we're

like, "Yeah, like this is a thing.",

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but when there's nothing wrong with

you, there's nothing to be ashamed of.

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We all struggle.

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Most of us struggle with food, one way

or another, at some point of our life.

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I was so ashamed of it.

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I thought I was the only one.

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I thought asking for help was a sign of

weakness, and if anything, it was such

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a sign of strength that I was able to

recognize what was going on in my life.

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I was like, "I know so

much about nutrition.

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Why?", because I knew all

the nutrition back to things.

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I did all the granularity.

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Why do I need help?, and so I

look almost like a badge of honor.

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I can figure this out and it just made

me sink deeper and deeper into my own

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issues, so recognizing that, asking for

help is truly a sign of strength, and like

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being more accepting of other types of

approaches, because your reluctance to it,

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may be just the sign that it's something

that could actually work for you.

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Joshua: Wow!

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I needed to hear that myself, even in

this moment, because I'm thinking, "Yeah.

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How many times that we're afraid

to ask for help?", and we need to

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have that help when we are going

through that notion of, "Oh no.

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I know I'm going to slip into it.

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I know I'm going to slip into it-

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Casey: Yeah.

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Joshua: "I slipped into it.", but I think

that's why our practices, which we're both

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coaches, but we do different things with

our coaching, I think it's so important

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to have that accountability factor.

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I always overstress this with not only

the people I interact with, but also

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the people that I think, I don't mean

to shove it down their throat, but

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to say to them, "I know what you're

going through, and I just want you to

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know that you have somebody at least

that's available to talk to.", so-

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Casey: Yeah.

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Joshua: Casey, I really

appreciate that so much.

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I want to let you have a few minutes here.

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Can you tell the audience how they

could reach out to you if they're

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interested in working with you,

especially for my women audience, this

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is really for you to pay attention.

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Men, you can work with me.

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I'm sure I can find somebody.

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We've had plenty of men on the show here

that have done a lot of different types

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of coaching, but, how can women reach

out to you about Your Case For Wellness?

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How can they get in contact with you;

how they just go through that process?

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I'll give you the last few

minutes to just give us a little

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bit of a pitch, if you will.

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Casey: Yeah, so basically I own and

operate my own coaching practice

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where I do private and group coaching.

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Right now, I have a few slots open

for private coaching, and what

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I do is I work with completely

customizing plans for you, for your

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goals, for your body, for your needs.

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The cookie cutter approach

is not working for you.

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If you are struggling, we need to stop

this endless spiral, stop the confusion,

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stop the Google searching that is

not serving you, it is not empowering

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: 00:33:53

you to feel healthy in your body.

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It is just leading you down more and

more of a rabbit hole, which makes

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it harder and hard to get out of,

but there is a way to reverse it.

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There is a way to get out of that

spiral, and so my most active platform

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is on Instagram, so definitely feel

free to send me a DM; would love to

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chat with you truly about anything.

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Any questions they have, nutrition,

health-related I'm Your Case For Wellness,

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as you said, and I would love to give

your listeners access to my free nutrition

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: 00:34:22

bundle, which has my top nutrition tips

video, as well as a Stop Overeating

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: 00:34:27

workbook, so that they can kind of dive

in themselves, and be able to understand

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: 00:34:34

what may be at the root of their

eating behaviors and how they can help

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: 00:34:38

themselves to feel happier, healthier,

and more on top of their food decisions.

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: 00:34:46

Joshua: That's awesome.

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: 00:34:47

I think that there's a lot of people that

will definitely get a lot out of that

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: 00:34:51

nutrition bundle that you're offering.

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: 00:34:53

I'll put all those links of

what Casey just mentioned into

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the episode notes, so for my

listeners, please go check them out.

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Go check Casey out if

you want to hire her.

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I highly encourage it, because to wrap

up Casey, I have to say to you, and I

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mentioned this, I never had anyone on

the show yet that has talked about the

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nutrition side and kind of how they

struggled with that to get to having

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great success, which obviously you are

having and you inspire me just from

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my perspective because of what I am

dealing with my own journey, but knowing

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that there's another side to it to be

able to help others, that just makes

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me feel so happy inside knowing that

you're doing that for not only just

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women, but I think you've inspired

a lot of people just in general by

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the fact of your story, and really,

that we all have these sort of things

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in common and we don't have to wait.

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We can start taking action

and be preventative about it.

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That's really the biggest thing, so Casey,

with all that said, thank you so much

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for being on Speaking From The Heart.

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I really enjoyed our conversation.

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: 00:35:54

It was so educational and

really appreciate you.

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Casey: Thank you so much for having me.

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It was a great conversation and I look

forward to chatting with your listeners

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in the future when they reach out.

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Joshua: I want to thank Casey again

for being part of the show, but also

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opening herself up to talking about

this important subject, because when we

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look at the whole coaching atmosphere,

it's not just about understanding why

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we do the physical things, why we do the

mental things, but actually putting those

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: 00:36:23

together, which we've already had a few

guests on this podcast explaining why

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that's so important to understand both

those aspects to be able to bridge those

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: 00:36:33

pieces together, but we have to understand

that talking about this subject means

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that we have to watch people and what

they have been through in terms of why

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they spiral out of control, and they use

food, instead of alcohol, or drugs, or

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: 00:36:50

sex, or whatever else so that we can get

to the heart of really what is happening.

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Why are they going through

all these different issues?

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It gets to the point that

we have to understand the

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smaller versions of ourself.

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The things that might be the

microaggressions, or the microchasms,

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of what is happening, to be able to

grow into this bigger, brighter version

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of herself, and I love that she talked

about this concept of intuitive eating.

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It's about not only thinking about

food differently, but how we can

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associate from the nutritional sense,

what we should have, but we can also

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enjoy what we shouldn't have also.

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It doesn't mean that we're always

constantly putting poison in our bodies.

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It actually is rethinking the way in which

we can have that relationship with food

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so that we can understand better how to

connect the dots with our lives, and our

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overall wellbeing, because what we put

inside of ourselves certainly dictates how

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we're going to feel throughout our day.

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: 00:37:52

If we're going to put in junk, expect

junk to come out of it, whether you're

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eating fast food, whether you're eating

something that was frozen, whether

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it's something that you should have

taken more time to consciously prepare.

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: 00:38:06

Having that ability to put aside that

time is easier said than done to be able

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to create not only the best version of

yourself, but the best food that you've

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ever had, so when we get to really

talking about this overall premise of

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why it's so important to feed yourself

right, it's also about how you can

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intuitively eat, but imagine, having that

mindset, being able to think of things

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: 00:38:33

more than just what food is all about,

and being able to work on yourself.

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We have to fulfill that basic necessity,

which in earlier episodes of this

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: 00:38:42

podcast, we've talked about the

concept of Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs.

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Food is one of the basic premises that

the human body, let alone the human

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: 00:38:52

condition, needs to have, in order to keep

on growing, to keep on moving forward,

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so if we're not getting the right food,

if we're not getting the right nutrients,

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if we're not satisfying what that

relationship is, of course we're never

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: 00:39:06

going to attain self actualization, let

alone even work on some of the skills

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: 00:39:10

development, the knowledge transfer, or

even the abilities that we will need to

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: 00:39:15

be able to grow in our relationships,

in our confidence, let alone even

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our determination for that matter.

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This big idea about having a better

understanding of what food is, and how

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it interacts with our human body, is

something that's still being studied

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constantly over and over and over again.

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We're always learning something new.

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What might be food that is really bad back

then, might be the next day, something

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: 00:39:45

that is really good for us, and then in

the future, it's not so good for us again.

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This yo-yo effect, which is happening

in our culture, means that we need to be

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: 00:39:55

paying attention, we need to be able to

work with others, just like Casey offers,

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to be able to learn to grow in the ways

in which we are able to associate with

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food in a much better place, to be able

to understand and feel good about why

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that aspect of food is needed for us, to

be able to grow, not only in a healthy

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way, but in a way in which we have a

better relationship as a whole when

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it comes to our intake of better food.

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It's really not so funny if you think

about it, because in many places,

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especially in the United States, you

might have heard this concept called a

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food desert, which we didn't really talk

about in our interview today, but reading

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research and even seeing my own backyard

here in Carlisle, Pennsylvania, about

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a food desert that exists in a certain

portion of Carlisle, makes me start to

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: 00:40:46

think about why it's so important to

also have availability when people can't

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: 00:40:52

access food that is really good for

them readily, to keep on working on the

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opportunity that exists to not only have

those sort of choices available, but to

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be informed on how to make those choices.

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A local nonprofit called Project Share,

which is near me too, literally blocks

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down the road, really helps us to

understand that with families that come

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in, go into a grocery store type format,

but are given assistance to be able to

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make better choices of the food that they

can feed their families, regardless of how

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many members of that family exist, which

is why it comes to a very important point.

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Despite the fact that you might have

all this availability of choice, and

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to be able to understand why it's so

important to make better choices as a

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whole, you have to learn the step away

from the scale, especially when your

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: 00:41:43

body might not be listening to what you

are trying to do, in the physical sense.

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I can't tell you how many times,

especially with me trying to

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work on myself and trying to lose

all those extra pounds, that it

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isn't about how much I weigh.

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It's about what I'm doing to be more

healthy about the food that I eat,

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the nutrients I'm gaining, but also

understanding my chemistry of my body

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acts differently, and I know I'm not

some sort of scientist, let alone not

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even nutritionist by trade, but I see

it all the time, especially with some

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of my clients that are struggling,

figuring out what's the best choice

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to make when it comes to not only the

food that they're consuming, but also

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the people that they're interacting

with, because people, just like food,

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we have a choice to associate with.

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Having that ability to step away

from the scale, though, especially

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: 00:42:39

when we think that it's all about how

much we weigh in terms of pounds, or

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kilograms if you're one of my listeners

from outside the United States, can

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: 00:42:48

be very hard, but you have to step

away, because when you step away.

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: 00:42:53

from the junk food, from the scale, from

all the expectations of what society says

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: 00:42:59

you should be, that can make such a big

difference in what you're able to do.

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: 00:43:04

It destroys the body image

of what everybody thinks you

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need to be, which Casey even

touched on in today's interview.

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: 00:43:12

It's really important to learn not

only to respect yourself, but also

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: 00:43:16

respect others in the grand scheme of

things, which is why trying new things,

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: 00:43:22

trying different combinations, might

be your ticket to being successful.

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: 00:43:27

Don't believe me?

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: 00:43:29

I loved it when she said about

having jerky with chocolate chips.

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: 00:43:33

Who would have ever thought

of such a weird combination?

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: 00:43:35

It sounds really gross to me,

but at the same time, let's make

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: 00:43:39

some weird combinations happen.

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: 00:43:42

When you think about the fact that you

can mix diet soda with something in

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: 00:43:45

which you can even eat for breakfast

with eggs and having a protein, you're

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: 00:43:50

still getting something in your body

to digest to be able to help you.

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: 00:43:55

Any nutritionist would tell you that

even if it's the worst food, at least put

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: 00:43:59

something in your body to start the day

so that your metabolism starts up, but of

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: 00:44:06

course, many things come in moderation,

just as much as your relationships, your

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: 00:44:13

ability to communicate, the ability to

grow in your career or your business,

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: 00:44:18

means that when you are diving into

things consistently in which they're not

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: 00:44:23

helping you, of course you're going to

get the results that you really desire.

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: 00:44:29

Are you doing the same

thing over and over again?

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: 00:44:32

What is it that you're doing to change

the messaging, or to spice up the

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flavor of your life, for that matter?

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: 00:44:38

What can you be in control of today that

will allow you to keep on growing, not

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: 00:44:43

just in the sense of you, as an individual

or your business, but I'm talking about

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: 00:44:49

the things that you might consume?

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: 00:44:52

Again, this episode proves yet another

point about having somebody to help

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you point out those differences.

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You know, as I record this, I had attended

a vendor event in which somebody walked up

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to my booth in which I was representing my

business, Your Speaking Voice LLC, saying

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: 00:45:11

that they worked at a call center and

that they didn't need my help whatsoever,

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: 00:45:16

but I clearly remember what I shouted

at them as they were turning to leave.

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: 00:45:21

"If you ever need that help, though, to

get out of what you really are destined

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: 00:45:25

to be, let me know when you're ready,

because I will be here to help you."

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: 00:45:32

We get so trapped with the same routine

over and over and over again, but it

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: 00:45:38

also means in a health coaching context,

being able to understand if those things

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: 00:45:43

are really trying to help you, so if

there's anything that you could ever

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: 00:45:47

gleam from being able to learn from other

people's experiences, it's this: Don't

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: 00:45:54

ever, never underestimate the importance

of being able to grow with somebody

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: 00:46:00

else's input, their opinion, their

feedback, in order for you to destroy

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: 00:46:07

what might be standing in your way.

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: 00:46:11

Even if you've been struggling for a

long time, even like our guest today,

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: 00:46:16

just know that getting to the other

side of that fence means that you can

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: 00:46:20

break down barriers that you normally

wouldn't ever think you could destroy.

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: 00:46:24

It means being able to learn about a

new way in which you're thinking about

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: 00:46:29

not just the things that you're dealing

with when it comes to food, not just the

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: 00:46:33

holistic behaviors or mindsets that might

be toxic in nature, but it means actually

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: 00:46:40

examining what you can potentially do

if you're just willing to work on the

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: 00:46:44

smaller pieces of what it's all about.

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: 00:46:48

Intuitive eating is just yet another

toolbox to add to your ever growing

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: 00:46:53

list of tools that will help you to keep

on understanding, to keep on fueling

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: 00:46:59

that future that you always deserve

to have, even if you think you never

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: 00:47:03

deserve to have it in the first place.

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: 00:47:06

Imagine what it would look like if you

changed your mindset just because of the

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: 00:47:10

food that you eat, even if it is jerky

and chocolate chips because hey, any

746

: 00:47:17

weird combination can make such a big

difference, and it has been because of

747

: 00:47:21

weird combinations that we've been able to

have the most wildest of inventions, the

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: 00:47:25

most wildest of dreams achieved, and even

having people feeling so successful about

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: 00:47:32

what they're doing, because let's face it.

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: 00:47:35

If you think eating ice cream, and

eating that whole package of bacon,

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: 00:47:39

is going to make you feel better?

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: 00:47:42

Remember, that there might be better

choices out there if you decide that

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: 00:47:47

you're going to intuitively eat your

way to not only your dreams, but to

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: 00:47:52

have the confidence, determination,

and the relationships to keep on

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: 00:47:57

fueling what you really desire to

have, because you deserve to have it.

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: 00:48:03

Thanks for listening to episode

number 114 of Speaking From the

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Heart, and I look forward to

hearing from your heart very soon.

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: 00:48:12

Outro: Thanks for listening.

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: 00:48:13

For more information about our podcast

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: 00:48:18

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: 00:48:23

Visit us at www.yourspeakingvoice.biz

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: 00:48:29

services that can help you create

the best version of yourself.

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: 00:48:33

See you next time.