Episode #170 - A More Enlightened, Courageous World Traveler: An Interview With Monica Mangelson

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Welcome to the podcast where relationships, confidence, and

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determination all converge into

an amazing, heartfelt experience.

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This is Speaking From The Heart.

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Joshua: Welcome back to episode

number 170 of Speaking from the Heart.

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Today, we have Monica Mangelson with

us, and Monica is a certified life

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purpose coach, full time world traveler,

a venture junkie, and a total foodie.

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She is on a mission to help people live

more intentionally and have more fun in

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the process, and I got to say with this

foodie, it's really interesting to hear

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so many different types of people on this

show that have spanned from traveling

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overseas, traveling back to have so

many different types of conversations

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with my counterparts here in the United

States, but Monica brings something to

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the table that many people I haven't

had on the show really do: traveling as

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a digital nomad, learning how to grow,

providing that context, that connection,

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that comfortability, and really finding

that engagement, that connection with

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somebody that as much as they want to

help you share that perspective that

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you really want to dive deep into, you

will find that person, they will love

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you for who you are, and willing to go

on that adventure, which I talk a little

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bit with Monica, about how it is to

live a life of flexibility, and also not

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knowing where you're going to go to next.

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It's been something that I have been

following on their podcast, not only

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because of the neuroscience mindset

that she talks about, but also pushing

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that awareness, understanding that our

batteries can drain, but we got to wake

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up to the outside world that is around

us, and by doing that, by multiplying

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successes and opportunities together,

we can create an infinite number of

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different types of opportunities that

are at our disposal, and for that

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reason, I can't wait for you to hear

the very end of this podcast, because

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there is just so much that Monica

shares that we're going to unpack.

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Get your suitcase ready, because this is

the time in which you're going to learn

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not just ways in which you can get more

comfortable, but how you can be packed

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and ready to go anywhere in your life.

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But with that, let's go to the episode.

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All right.

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We're here with Monica Mangelson.

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Monica!

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Thanks for sharing your

heart with us today.

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Monica: Of course.

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I'm so happy to be here.

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Thanks for inviting me on your show.

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Joshua: I am so happy too.

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You were one of those people that

reached out to me like months ago, and

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then I forgot, and then I remembered,

because you responded to a group

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that I have been getting a lot of my

guests from, the Need a Guest Facebook

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group, which for my listeners, it's a

great opportunity to learn a lot about

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different people on there, and get

them for shows if you're interested,

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or even speaking events, so thank you

for reminding me, and I'm so sorry.

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I feel like I have to speak from the heart

right away to you for that reason, but-

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Monica: No worries.

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You know what?

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I'm a big believer that things happen

when they were supposed to, and you

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know that I've just been through a

huge business transition, and so I

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feel like this is the perfect time.

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Joshua: And that's what I love about

it is that there's always divine

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timing that's involved with it, so-

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Monica: Absolutely.

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Joshua: Thanks for doing this with me.

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I actually want to set the scene for

my listeners, which heard a little bit

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about you already, but I was really drawn

to your story because of your partner,

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and what you also do in terms of your

lifestyle, so I'm wondering if you could

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tell us a little bit about that at a high

level, and why that is such an appealing

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process for you, because I'll be honest.

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There aren't many people I know

personally that live the lifestyle

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that you do, so why don't you

share that with our listeners?

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Monica: Yeah, of course, so my partner

and I are full time digital nomads, so

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basically what that means is we both work

online, and we travel anywhere we can

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get a Wi-Fi signal, so we've lived in

the States, out of the States, in Asia,

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South America; all over the place, and

it's just been such a fun experience for

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us to really dive into other cultures,

to learn more about ourselves, to become

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stronger together as a relationship.

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We've had to rely on each other a lot,

but I have to say the thing that I

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love the most about the digital nomad

lifestyle is that you are constantly

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reinventing yourself, and so you don't

really ever have the chance to live

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on autopilot, because you're always

somewhere new, with new stimulus, and

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new challenges, and trying to figure

out where the grocery store is, or how

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do you get toilet paper in this place?

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You don't even have toilet paper, and

so it's such a cool way to always be

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reinventing yourself, but always to be

taking life one minute at a time, and so

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every time we go somewhere new, we get

to stop and say, "What do we need right

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now in this phase of our life?", and

just move forward with that decision, and

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we just live really intentionally since

we have started living this lifestyle.

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Joshua: I felt that when I was

reading a little bit about this,

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which for my listeners, I'll have

Monica's website on the episode notes.

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I found it really interesting something

that I wanted to do right out of college,

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which is to go to the Peace Corps, so

Austin, your significant other, and

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you, both decided to do that, so what

ultimately led the decision that you

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wanted to serve in the Peace Corps?

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Monica: Yeah, I mean, I think

it was a combination of things.

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I think one was we really didn't want

to go do more schooling, and we really

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didn't want to go work in an office yet.

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We needed more of an adventure.

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We had both lived abroad separately

before we met each other, and so we kind

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of had that taste for it, and originally

what our plan was to teach English, and

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at first, we were going to teach English

in China for a semester, and then we

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got jobs actually in Thailand teaching

English, and then that fell through last

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minute, and so talk about divine timing.

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When we found out that the

Thailand jobs were falling through,

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we were in the library of our

school and I was devastated.

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I was so excited to live in Thailand

for a year to teach English.

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I don't know why I thought I could

teach if I can't even speak it, but,

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this guy next to us was like, "Hey!

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You should go check out the Peace Corps.

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Actually, they're here at a career fair

right now, and you have about half an

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hour left before it closes.", so we booked

it over there, and instantly just got

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hooked, and fell in love with the program.

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We went through the whole

application process.

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We got assigned to Mozambique to work

in HIV and malaria prevention and

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awareness; working with the youth, so we

are really, really excited about that.

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Joshua: But then the dreaded five

letter word, COVID, changed everything.

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I think that might have been, speaking of

divine timing, which we're talking about

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earlier, I found that maybe that happened

for a reason because of what you said.

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You're doing what you're doing now;

being digital nomads, and you're

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able to live a lifestyle that is

not tethered, so for you, I'm really

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curious about this, because I think

for some people, when they hear

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digital nomads, they're thinking, "Oh!

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So you're just living, you know, in an RV?

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You're traveling around.", or,

you might be hopping on a plane.

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You're in hostels, or you're in

some sort of living arrangement.

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Tell us how that sort of works

for you on the day to day basis.

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Do you like make this decision that

you're going to go to another country?

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Is there planning involved?

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Tell us a little bit about how that

all comes to be, if you don't mind.

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Monica: Yeah, it's definitely changed

a lot, but Austin and I both really

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like nice things, and so I think that's

surprising for a lot of people when it

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comes to thinking about digital nomads.

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You do think of like the RVers, or

like the super minimalist kind of

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people, and we are pretty minimalist,

but we do really like nice things, and

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we like to live in nice places, and

our journey has evolved quite a bit.

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If you had asked me this question

a year, or even two years ago, I

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probably would have been like, "Yeah.

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We plan everything out.

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We book everything in advance.

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We book our flights.

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We know where we're going to be; how

long we're going to be there.", and

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it's changed quite a bit as we've

kind of eased into the lifestyle,

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so now it's a lot more spontaneous,

and that drives our parents crazy.

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That drives our families crazy.

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It's because they can't ever keep

track of us, because we don't know

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where we're going to be next, so we

really kind of take it as it goes.

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The biggest thing we look for

is visas; how long we can stay

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in a country will determine.

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We always like to stay in a place

longer, if possible, so like one to

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three months is kind of our sweet spot,

because we really like to integrate

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into the culture, into the place

we're in, know all the local spots.

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We're not tourists.

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We are living in these different places,

although we do touristy things, and

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enjoy that, and so then we'll book an

apartment and typically we use Airbnb,

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just cause we know it's reliable.

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We can find really good housing.

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We can find really comfortable housing,

and kind of vet it, because it's really

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important that we have Wi-Fi wherever

we're going, since we are working online.

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That's kind of our lifeline,

and then, from there, we

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just kind of will hop around.

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We'll talk to lots of people and

they'll be like, you know, we'll be in

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Peru and they'll be like, "Oh my gosh!

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You have to go to Chile.",

so we're like, "Okay.

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Let's go to Chile.

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That'd be so fun.", you know, and we just

kind of fly by the seat of our pants.

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Joshua: Do you feel that it creates

some tension sometimes working

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with clients then, because you

are traveling all over the place?

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I imagine like, first off, the time zone

differences every time that you go to a

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different country can be impactful, but,

I'm wondering too, like how do you balance

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that from a work perspective, because,

obviously, I imagine that you're trying to

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help them out with what they're trying to

do, which, if you don't mind even sharing

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in general what that is that you usually

provide as a level of service, I'm sure

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listeners would love to hear that too,

but how does that impact your ability

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to be able to stay focused with that?

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Monica: Mm-Hmm.

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Yeah, so it has been a

learning curve for sure.

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All of our clients have been super great.

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None of them have cared if we're in

the country, or out of the country.

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Time zones has been the biggest pain

in the butt, because we think we have

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it right, and then our Google calendar,

like a firm's up for us, and then we're

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wrong, and then, you know, we have

missed meetings before, or different

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things like that, but everyone we work

with is super understanding, and I think

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a big reason for that is because we

are very open and honest about, "Hey!

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We just traveled across the world,

and we're 14 hours behind, and I'm

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so sorry.", and so all of our clients

have been very, very gracious with us.

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They've been super good about being open

and honest with us, and just letting

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it be okay being flexible, and I really

think a big part of that is because

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it's the culture that we've worked

to create within our business, within

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our clients, and things like that,

so I guess, high level, of what I do.

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I am a life purpose coach which has

shifted a little bit, but that's

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currently like where I'm at, so I love

helping clients with one on one calls.

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We jump on a call, and we talk about

their goals, and what kind of life they

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want to live, and how to set themselves

up for success within that life.

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Austin has recently pivoted.

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He is actually going to school right

now, so that's a little bit of an unknown

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factor right now is cause he's working

to become a data analyst, and so he'll

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probably be working for a company, and

so we're hoping his goal is to be fully

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remote, but he might have more specific

hours that he has to clock in, and

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clock out, whereas me with my clients,

I have specific call days, and so the

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time zones are a little bit easier,

because I can stay up really late that

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one day on my call day if I need to,

or wake up early on the specific call

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days, not every day of the week, where

he might not have that kind of time

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flexibility, so that's a little bit

of a question mark for us right now.

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Joshua: As somebody that has been

in the data analytics field, because

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I've continued to work a full time

job, and one of my past jobs was

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doing data analytics, let me tell you.

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There is some flexibility.

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Data does not go away, or scurry around

in a corner, so I think Austin will

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have a lot of flexibility, so I'm really

super excited to hear that, even though

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that's quite a transition even as of

the time of this recording for you, I

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know that down the road, it's going to

all work out, and I think it might even

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give you some benefits too, for sure.

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Monica: Yeah.

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Thank you.

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I needed to hear that, because there

are moments where I get really nervous.

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Joshua: Well, this is my moment

where I get the coach, and I get

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to tell you, it's going to be okay.

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Monica: Thank you.

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Joshua: Speaking of coaching, one of

the things that why we have this sort

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of connection, full disclosure for

my listeners, and I even said this to

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Monica, I've been following a little

bit of their own podcast, because

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you both have a couple's podcast.

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It's called The Profitable Nomad Couple

podcast, so I was wondering how you got

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started with that, and I'm scratching

my head, because I've always stayed

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where I'm at, stationary with recording.

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This I haven't taken it on the road,

or even done this remotely with other

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people, other than using technology

kind of like I use now to help record

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these, so how do you go about recording

episodes, because I know most of them in

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the beginning for you were just Austin and

you, but you've also incorporated guests.

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I'm kind of curious how

you make that all happen.

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Let us know a little bit of

the magic that happens in the

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background, if you don't mind.

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Monica: The magic in the background?

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Yeah, we're really good packers, and

so you'd be amazed what we can fit in a

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carry on, especially cause we normally

travel with just backpacking backpacks.

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You would be amazed what we could fit in

there, so we are set up as super light,

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which is really helpful, and then the

biggest issue, again, has been time zones,

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and so we'll have stints that were in the

States, like for right now, at the time

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of this recording, and actually probably

the time of this release, we are going to

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be house sitting in Colorado, and so while

we've been in the States, we booked a ton

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of guest interviews, and so we actually

have our guest interviews scheduled

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out till like March of next year.

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Joshua: Wow.

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Monica: We just take advantage

of the time that we have.

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Joshua: Wow.

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I sort of do something similar,

and a little bit of the curtain

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behind too, for my listeners.

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I do this in groupings too, where I

might have six, seven weeks that I'm just

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completely booked with podcast interviews,

but that will extend throughout

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several months at a time, but wow.

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To have that many, I'm impressed.

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That just shows the power

that you're projecting and the

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messaging, which I highly encourage.

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I mean, do you want to talk a

little bit about what you share on

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the podcast too in case any of my

listeners like to check you out too?

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Monica: Oh, of course.

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Podcasting is my favorite part

of the business, to be honest.

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I'm such a talker.

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I love meeting new people.

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I love sharing my story.

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I love doing it with Austin.

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It is so much fun, so like you said, we

are the Profitable Nomad Couple podcast,

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and the first kind of season, the first

chapter of our podcast, was very much

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about the digital nomad lifestyle.

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It was about how to market yourself

online, how to start an online business,

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and about that mindset piece, but as

we kind of were going about and doing

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our podcast, and figuring out our next

step, our big pivot, the big thing

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that I realized, going forward, is that

anybody can teach you business, but the

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thing I kept working with my clients

on was their mindset, to believe in

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themselves, to feel like they had a

purpose in life, and so now, chapter two

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of the Profitable Nomad Couple podcast,

is specifically on mindset things.

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I am a big neuroscience nerd, and so it's

all like neuroscience based, and so, yeah.

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We have a lot of that.

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Travel is just such a big part of

who we are, and so is business,

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and so that'll come up as well.

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Joshua: I love the science aspect.

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I had somebody recently that was on the

show that talked about not just from

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the coaching perspective, but also how

to take the science behind it to help

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somebody: the biology, the chemistry,

to really shift that mindset, so I'm

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kind of curious because when we hear

people say, even for us coaches, we say,

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"We're going to change your mindset.

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We're going to help you do that,

and we're going to walk you through

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that.", they're like, "Oh, brother!

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I don't really want to do that whatsoever.

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There's just another person

saying that they can do that."

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What makes you different from, say,

somebody else that is saying the

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same thing that they're able to do?

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What do you think you bring to the

table that maybe somebody else doesn't

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that would help them with changing

that mindset, and I'm really anxious

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to hear this answer because of what

you've shared so far, because I feel

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like there's some power behind this.

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Monica: Yeah.

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I mean, there's a couple of things.

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I feel like the biggest one is

that I am very neuroscience based,

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and so I really lean into like

the research of neuroplasticity.

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How can we actually affect

change in your life?

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How can we change just the smallest

things to change habits, which have

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the biggest impact in your life?

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The other thing is I am very

focused on helping people lean

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back into their intuition.

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I don't have the answers for everybody,

but I know that everybody has their

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own answers, and I am very good at

helping you figure out what that is.

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I'm very good into helping you tune

back into your own intuition, into your

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own gut feeling, and then be able to

use that to make the decisions that

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will be best for you in this moment.

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Joshua: Based on that, and based on the

world that you've seen thus far, what do

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you say is something that we're lacking

here as people that live in the United

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States, or say, another country for that

matter, because I know you obviously

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meet other people with your travels.

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What do you think is the key

ingredient that we're missing outside

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of just the neuroscience component?

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Meaning, is there something that

you've seen common amongst your

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clients that maybe you have seen that

maybe even if you said today to me,

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even for that matter, "Hey, Josh!

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I don't know you at all, but maybe this

is one thing that you could look at."

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What would that one thing be, and

I know I'm kind of pigeonholing

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you in just one, so if there's more

than one, please, share the wealth.

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Monica: Yeah, I mean, as you were

talking, I instantly had two things pop

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into my head, so I'll share those two.

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The first, and the most important one,

is just a level of self awareness, of

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mindfulness, of taking the time during the

day to pause and notice your surroundings.

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Americans are so busy.

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It's ridiculous, but anywhere else that

I have gone outside the country, I mean,

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I've done meditations with Buddhist

monks in the temples in Thailand.

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I have gone out to small villages

and been with families, and it's

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just so interesting how everyone

has this level of awareness.

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They see what's going on around them.

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They see the flowers that are blooming.

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They see the people next to them

struggling, and then they also take

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more time to reflect on themselves,

and what's going on, and how they

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can be better help, and of course,

that's a big generalization.

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There are obviously people who don't have

that same level of mindfulness, but the

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people that do are the people who make

a difference, so the ones where you're

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sitting on the bus, and they notice that

you look lost, and they're like, "Hey.

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How are you?", and they want to start a

conversation, and they want to help you,

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versus the people who are on their phones,

and the people who have that level of

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mindfulness, and awareness, are by far so

much happier, because they are noticing.

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They're stopping and smelling

the roses, as cliche as that is.

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They are noticing the people around them.

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They are noticing the things around them,

and then they are taking time to reflect

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on that, and to kind of internalize the

things that they're seeing, and learning,

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every single day, so if I could just like

blanket spread across the United States

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like one thing that I wish everybody had

was that same level of intentionality and

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mindfulness as they go about their day.

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Joshua: Let's turn that question

around and apply it to you, so with

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intentionality and mindfulness, has

there been a point in your life that

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maybe you didn't have that, but then

all of a sudden, the switch came on,

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which led you into this adventure

that you have been on with Austin?

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Monica: Oh, yes.

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Oh, yes, so after the Peace

Corps kind of shut down.

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I mean, at that point, we had

sold our housing contract.

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We'd sold most of our stuff.

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Everything was in suitcases.

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We were ready to go.

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We were two weeks out from leaving when

COVID shut everything down, and so we

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packed everything in our little Mazda,

and we drove to California, and we moved

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in with Austin's parents, who were so

kind and gracious to take us in for what

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ended up being a really long time, and

while we were there, we were waiting

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for the Peace Corps to come back and

tell us that we could go again, that we

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could live our lives again, and so we

got dead end jobs, and I worked in senior

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healthcare, which, it's a really hard job.

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Joshua: It is a hard job.

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My mom has done even long term

care when she was working,

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so I understand completely.

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Yeah.

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Monica: Yeah.

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It was extremely hard.

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I was extremely overworked.

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I thought this was going to be short term,

so I did not set very good boundaries, and

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I was working 15 hour days a lot of times.

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I was not getting home until one or two

in the morning, and then Austin would get

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up for his shift at six in the morning,

and so we would never see each other.

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I was literally just surviving, just

trying to make it through the day, and

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then the weekends would come, and I'd be

really excited for the weekends, except

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I'd have no energy to enjoy it, and

so I spent a lot of time on the couch.

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A lot of time watching Netflix, and I

lived like that, in this state of just

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surviving, just trying to get through the

day, just trying to get to the weekend,

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which I didn't even have energy to enjoy,

and I just felt like I was a battery that

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was charging less and less and less every

night, and I was just slowly draining, and

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I put on a ton of weight during that time.

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I just felt so empty, and I was

so angry, and I'm not an angry

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person, and I'm like generally a

very happy person and I just wasn't.

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I was a shell of who I was, and there came

a time when the Peace Corps was like, "Oh.

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Two weeks!", and then they were like, "Oh.

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Like a month.

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Two months.

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Three months.", and then we stopped

hearing from them, and there became a

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time, I think it was about nine months

in, where we got an email from them, and

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they were like, "Oh, it's been so long.

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You have to reapply.

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You have to redo all of your

certifications, all of your

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medical things.", and it broke me.

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I was so frustrated, and I went on a

two hour walk that day, and just like

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bawled, and I was so angry, and I

just like, "Why did this happen to me?

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We wanted to serve."

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Our hearts were in the right place.

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I really, really felt

aligned with the Peace Corps.

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I had this kind of big come to Jesus

moment, almost, when we signed up for

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the Peace Corps, and I was just like,

"Why was I led astray in this way?",

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and that was what broke me, and that

was when I was like, 'You know what?

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I have been waiting for nine months in

literal hell, waiting for somebody to

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tell me I could live my life again.",

and I was I'm angry all the time.

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I have gained like 50 pounds

over COVID during this time, and

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I was like, I never go outside.

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I'm a fraction of the person that

I used to be, and I just realized

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that I was done living on autopilot.

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I was done living for anybody else, and

that's when, slowly, I began to make

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these changes, and start a business,

and started traveling, and start

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eating better, and all the things.

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Joshua: You remind me so much of what my

journey has been, and my listeners that

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have been following along with me even on

this journey, which I've shared briefly

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with you about even getting to this

point, it reminds me so much of what I've

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struggled with: overeating, not feeling

like I was worthy of what I had been

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given, the imposter syndrome sometimes

to that I don't deserve to have this, but

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It sounds to me that COVID realized for

you that this was indeed your calling,

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that this was what you were meant to do.

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Is that fair to say?

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Monica: I believe it was the start of it.

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It has been probably a two, three year

journey to get to where I am today to

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fully be like this is why I'm here.

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This is my calling.

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This is my purpose.

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Joshua: With that said, with those two,

three years to get to where you are

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today, which, I mean, I'm impressed by

just looking at your website, how you

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carry yourself here, it just shows that

you have been putting that hard work in.

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How does that reflect

with who you work with?

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To you, if there was somebody that you

really wanted to work with to help them

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see that best version of themselves,

as I call it, but I know you don't

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call it that, how do you get them

to see that bigger picture that the

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hard work that they do does pay off?

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Monica: Yeah.

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My favorite people to work with are

the people who are kind of having what

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I call this waking up moment in their

life, where they're like, "Oh my gosh.

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I've put in years of schooling, and

thousands of dollars of schooling,

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and/or into this job, and I've been

climbing the ladder, and I've been

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doing everything right, and I hate it."

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You know, we're kind of put on this fast

track, like, from the time we're little:

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go to school, and then you go to high

school, and then you go to college or

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trade school, and then you get a job,

and then you start at the bottom, and

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you work your way up, and you climb this

ladder, and you get a house, and maybe

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you get married; maybe you have some

kids, and that's kind of this fast track

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we're put on, and we're never given a

time to breathe, and just ask ourselves

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what we actually want, and so it's the

people who have been climbing that ladder,

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who've been following that path, and

like I said, they have all the things,

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the outward things, and they're just not

happy, and it just leaves them wondering

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if there's not more out there for them.

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Those are the people that I love

working with, and I love helping

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them start to strip away the societal

pressures, and their familiar pressures,

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and things like that, that people

have kind of superimposed onto them

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to really strip down into who am

I as a person, and what do I need?

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What is my purpose here?

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What am I passionate about, and

then help them start to reinvent

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their life based on that.

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Joshua: What's next for you in terms

of this adventure, because you even

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said earlier, there's been a seismic

shift just because of some of the

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dynamics, even in your own business.

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What do you feel is the focus based

off of that, because it sounds

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like that is where you're heading

towards, but is there more to it?

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Is there a bigger, broader

vision to become the best

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version of who you are, Monica?

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Monica: Oh, yes.

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Yes, for sure.

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I'm a visionary, so I always have a

vision of where I'm going, but one of

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the things that I actually have just

started implementing, which I'm very

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excited about, is hosting retreats.

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I want to bring people with me to travel,

and have this transformational experience,

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and I want to bring them a community

of people who just are learning how to

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love themselves, and learning how to

reinvent themselves, so I'm hosting my

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first retreat in February, which I'm very

excited about, and the other thing that

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I really want to do is to be on a stage.

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I want my impact to be amplified.

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I remember as a kid going to speeches

in several different capacities,

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both in school, out of school,

and those speakers changed my life

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more than I ever could have known.

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It stirred something in me, and

I'm recently getting to this point

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where I'm like, "I want that."

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I want to be able to amplify my

impact from a stage, so those are

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the two things that I've been really

working towards implementing into

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myself, and also into my business.

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Joshua: I'll tell you, as someone that

does public speaking coaching for a

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living too, that it is possible with

even the people that go up there, and do

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some amazing work with their audience.

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It's all about what your purpose is at

the end of the day, and the way that you

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even said it today, like I'm literally

sitting here, and I'm like kind of

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having this oasis form in my head of,

"What would be the perfect type of

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getaway of not only opportunity that's

outside of where my bubble is right

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now, but also where is yet to explore.",

and I hear that energy from you.

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I find it to be something that is really

needed, especially for people that

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sometimes get stuck, and trying to get

unstuck is the biggest part of that.

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To ask one final question, because

we're almost at the end of our time.

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What would you say to someone, especially

with everything that you've done thus far,

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and even what you have yet to go, because,

I mean, I look at you, and you got so

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much more life to go, even for you, and

everybody else that you have yet to serve.

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What is one thing that you would recommend

for somebody that maybe is interested

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in stepping outside of that comfort zone

that they've been living in, doing this,

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quote unquote, right things, which I like

that, because sometimes we think what

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is the right thing isn't necessarily the

right thing, so what would be one way,

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Monica, for people to kind of take that

first step to see that bigger picture?

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What do you think?

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Monica: I think the very first step is

to just allow yourself to dream bigger.

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I mean, you got to this point by

letting everyone else tell you what

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your dreams needed to be, and at one

point, maybe it was your dream, but

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allowing yourself, like, "What if there

was more?", or, my favorite question.

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I know a lot of people are like

kind of teetering on the edge,

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and they're like, "Oh my gosh.

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What if I fall?", but what if we

start asking yourself, "What if I fly?

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What if everything went so

well, so perfectly better

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than we could ever imagine?

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What would life look like?", and as

you start to let yourself go, let go of

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your inhibitions a little bit, and let

yourself dream, you're going to find

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that there's such a beautiful picture.

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There's such a beautiful life waiting

for you just on the other side, but

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it all starts with that first step

of letting yourself imagine that

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it could be the best thing ever.

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Joshua: Definitely can be, and working

with people that have done that

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can make such a big difference, so,

Monica, I really appreciate this.

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I really appreciate getting to know you.

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I feel like I've known you from afar,

but now I'm getting to talk to you today.

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It was really great.

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I want to give you the last few

minutes here to pitch your business.

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If people are interested

in contacting you.

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Maybe they want to get

some coaching from you.

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Maybe they want to learn a little

bit more about you and Austin.

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Maybe they want to listen to the podcast.

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Maybe you want to give it one more shot

of just referencing that, and where people

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can find that too, but I'm going to give

you the last few minutes to do all that.

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Monica: Yeah, of course.

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I mean, like we've already

talked about, the podcast is my

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favorite thing about business.

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I love giving free advice, so the best

way you can kind of like scratch the

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surface, over level, get to know me,

also Austin and our journey, would be

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: 00:30:13

the Profitable Nomad Couple podcast.

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Literally anywhere you get your podcast,

you can find it, and then, if you want

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: 00:30:20

to know just general information about

me, austinandmonica.com is my website.

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Instagram is my favorite place to hang

out, Instagram and Facebook, so Instagram

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: 00:30:29

as well @AustinandMonica, we were really

original with all of our handles, and

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then Facebook, come hang out with me.

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: 00:30:35

I have a Facebook group called the

Freedom Frame of Mind: Escaping

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The Daily Grind, so it's super fun.

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I do tons of trainings in that

Facebook group all the time.

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: 00:30:46

It is such a powerhouse community of

amazing people who are doing amazing

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: 00:30:50

things, and reinventing themselves over

and over and over again, and I have people

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: 00:30:54

from all over the world in that group.

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It is a blast.

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I love that group, so come hang out with

me there, and then of course, I would

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be a miss if I didn't invite you all to

come to Columbia with me in February.

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It is a self love meets adventure

retreat, so we're going to be kayaking.

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: 00:31:10

We're going to be paddleboarding.

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: 00:31:11

We're going to be snorkeling.

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We're going to be going on sunset tours.

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: 00:31:14

We're going to be having bonfires with

live music, but then we're also going

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: 00:31:17

to have the slower part where we're

going to be doing restorative yoga,

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: 00:31:21

and we're going to have massages on

the beach, and we're going to have

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a private chef who is cooking really

nutritious and delicious meals, so

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definitely come join me in February.

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That's February 2nd through the 6th.

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: 00:31:32

It'd be a blast, and I cannot

wait to hang out with you all.

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: 00:31:36

Joshua: Sounds like a great

birthday getaway for me, since

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my birthday month is in February.

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Might be something I

need to even think about.

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Monica: Yes!

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Oh my gosh, come!

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That'd be so fun!

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Joshua: But, I have to say to you,

that you are your own little country.

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I don't know if you even realize it or

not, but you're creating this culture

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in that country that you're forming

of all the possibilities, and I find

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: 00:31:57

that the life that you're living

with Austin, this digital nomad life.

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Sometimes I've heard in

the news of like, "Oh!

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That's not possible to do.

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: 00:32:05

It's ridiculous that people

would ever think that way."

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: 00:32:08

Well, you're proving that

wrong, and I love that you're

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pushing back on the status quo.

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I love that you're challenging not just

what everybody thinks that we should be

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doing, but also what we could be doing,

and that's what we should be doing, that

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we can have this freedom in our lives,

and regardless of what we might think it

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: 00:32:28

is, it means that we have to look at it

from a variety of different perspectives,

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which, for you, I got to say.

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You got many different perspectives being

a world traveler, so, with all those

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kudos behind you, Monica, thanks for

being on Speaking from the Heart today.

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I really enjoyed having you on the show,

and thank you for enlightening me and my

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listeners about everything that you do.

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Monica: Aw.

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Thank you so much for having me here.

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It's been a genuine pleasure

to be here with you.

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Joshua: I want to thank Monica again

so much for being part of the show,

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but there's one footnote that I have

to tell all of you, my listeners,

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about this podcast episode in which

something's changed after Monica

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who was on the show in which we

recorded this a few months ago.

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Monica has since then re-branded her

podcast, no longer being called the

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Profitable Nomad Couple podcast, but to

now be called Notes From A Neuro Nerd.

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I'm going to put that link in the episode

notes so that you have that, but I want

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to just leave that with you, because

even then, Monica has rebranded herself

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into this awesome powerhouse, but the

conversation that we had today is still

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just as relevant, still just as impactful,

and has so many different things that

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I want to unpack, so let's get into it.

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Traveling with all these different types

of people, all these different types of

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connections that we can form throughout

the world, makes us even have a stronger

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connection with ourselves, even our

partners, when we are able to branch

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out and explore what is all around us.

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Having that new connection, finding

new material, having plans that allow

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us to surround those opportunities

can really be an effective tool, and

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I love that no matter where Monica

is at, even with her partner Austin,

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they are able to make this work.

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They are able to find ways, regardless

of where they are, to help serve their

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clients, but it's really about doing

the nice things to be able to do that.

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You have those nice things when you go

around the world being able to figure out

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where you might want to go next, where

is that destination, but also having that

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feeling of comfort, no matter where it is

happening, wherever you go, whether that

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is an Airbnb, whether that is in some

place that you've never been before, being

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able to have that kind of engagement with

your life is something that most people

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would absolutely dream about to be able to

find, to be able to have that flexibility.

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The question that we have to ask

ourself is: Can we be more flexible

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in living that kind of life?

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I think Monica really talked a lot about

how she's able to do it, but I also

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know that she talked about how some

people might not be able to do that.

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It doesn't mean that there's a yes or

no to this, but that there's different

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ways in which you can go about it.

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Freedom in itself comes in

all kinds of different forms.

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That doesn't mean that I'm going

to be packing up all my belongings,

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closing down Your Speaking Voice,

and going completely digital.

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No, no, no.

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: 00:35:39

I wouldn't be doing that for myself,

because that's just not my level of

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: 00:35:42

freedom, but that doesn't excuse the

fact that everybody has a different way

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: 00:35:47

in which they approach it, but I love

that Monica talks about how you can pack

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super light, be able to be not only open

to these kinds of opportunities, but how

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you can shape your mind, your perspective

around them, and that's really the

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key is that you have to find engaging

opportunities to be able to pursue them.

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You have to be able to do your homework,

do the research, be able to go with the

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flow, and sometimes that flow, even with

some of the things that she's talked

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about, might not always work out for

themselves, but this belief about mindset,

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being able to change, is a science within

itself, and it's something that Monica

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has really invested a lot of time in,

and I can understand why she pivoted

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: 00:36:33

the podcast, why she's pivoting many

different parts of her coaching business

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: 00:36:37

into something that I love about why

we're able to change our habits, how

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: 00:36:42

we can change your intuition, about

things that we have normally thought

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: 00:36:47

this is the only way to do it, but to

also unlearn some of those experiences.

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: 00:36:53

We've had plenty of people that

have talked about this concept

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: 00:36:57

on the show, but nothing quite in

depth like Monica has shared today.

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That self awareness, knowing and seeing

what matters the most, is the hardest

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thing that might be covering our eyes,

might be covering our perspective, being

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: 00:37:13

able to see what's on the other side, but

how we bring that awareness, how we create

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: 00:37:19

that perspective, means that we have to

learn how to create things that help us.

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: 00:37:25

We have to create habits that are not only

good for us, but the things that surround

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: 00:37:30

those habits are really what's key.

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: 00:37:34

Are the short term sacrifices that

you're willing to do really able

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: 00:37:39

to get you to where you need to be?

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: 00:37:42

When we're trying to do the same thing,

and we're trying to do good for our

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: 00:37:46

families, for ourselves, for other

people, over and over and over again,

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: 00:37:51

we start to see the batteries drain.

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: 00:37:53

We start to see how we cannot

have a life for ourselves, because

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: 00:37:59

we're not living with purpose.

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: 00:38:00

We're not living with intentionality.

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: 00:38:03

We're not able to get to that other side.

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Here's something you can do: wake up.

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: 00:38:11

Wake up.

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Yes!

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That's exactly what I'm

trying to say is wake up.

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: 00:38:15

Listen to it.

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Listen to what's inside your heart.

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: 00:38:18

Listen to what is actually inside of you.

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: 00:38:22

That means that you might have to go

into that sort of trance, thinking about

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: 00:38:27

what it has been, what it has looked like

when you saw success for the first time.

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: 00:38:34

We all have experienced success in

one way or another, but living outside

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: 00:38:39

of that bubble means that we have

to be able to take a step outside

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: 00:38:44

of what we're in; means that we have

to escape what my therapist calls

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: 00:38:49

the "warm, squishy stuff" that we're

usually surrounding ourself with, and,

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: 00:38:55

Stepping outside of our comfort zone.

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There's no script when we do

that, and I know that's what

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makes us very fearful of it.

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: 00:39:02

That's why we have to wake up.

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: 00:39:04

If we're ever going to achieve the gains

that we really want to do, it means that

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: 00:39:08

we have to stop doing the same things

that we do over and over and over and

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: 00:39:13

over again, because we think that every

time that we do it, we're going to get

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: 00:39:17

rewarded, but we're not getting rewarded.

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: 00:39:19

We're getting punished.

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: 00:39:21

We're getting punished by the fact that

we have that thought that is limiting,

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: 00:39:25

that is putting us in that silo.

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: 00:39:30

Hosting retreats, surrounding yourself

with a community, maybe impacting

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: 00:39:34

others, it could be as simple as a game

night in which my best friends would

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: 00:39:39

often put on, that can help us escape

the reality that is surrounding us.

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: 00:39:47

That's right: being able to just simply

do something different, whether it's

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: 00:39:52

hanging around the pool, being able to

enjoy the weather that's outside, although

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: 00:39:57

it's going to be winter very soon here in

the United States, or even trying to do

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: 00:40:05

something with somebody, with a group of

people, that you have never done before.

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: 00:40:12

To multiply your successes means

that you have to first multiply

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: 00:40:16

your opportunities to fly.

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: 00:40:18

Being able to see yourself

dream of that picturesque view.

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: 00:40:22

Being able to sit at a beach.

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: 00:40:24

Being able to interact with a culture that

might be foreign to you, and if we go all

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: 00:40:29

the way back to my earlier episodes with

some of my international guests, more

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importantly Mark Snow, you'll start to

see that when we are able to live outside

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: 00:40:39

of our comfort zone, living outside of

our own culture, we're able to dream.

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: 00:40:44

We're able to create that picture that

we always thought we could always create.

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: 00:40:50

Earlier this week in my

monologue, I talked about how we

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can share our story to others.

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: 00:40:54

This is a prime example of how Monica

and Austin, both of them, have been

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able to live that dream, and now Monica,

more than ever, is able to share those

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: 00:41:05

perspectives based on neuroscientific

approaches that we can change your brain

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: 00:41:11

waves, or brain patterns, to find plans

that help us create that connection with

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: 00:41:16

others, by simply doing something that we

never thought we could ever do: travel.

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: 00:41:23

Now, before you blow up my inbox at

podcast@yourspeakingvoice.biz, which

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: 00:41:28

I'm always willing to take some email

request of some future episodes,

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: 00:41:33

or even some potential guests, I

know what you're going to tell me.

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: 00:41:38

"When am I ever going to have the

time to do something like this?"

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: 00:41:41

"When am I ever going to find the money?"

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: 00:41:43

"How could you say that I can do

all these things when I have all

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: 00:41:47

these responsibilities, Josh?

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: 00:41:49

I can't dump these on other people, let

alone my family, friends and others.",

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: 00:41:54

but doing the nice things, doing the

things that we really want to do in our

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: 00:41:58

life, means that we have to experiment,

and it means that we have to start small

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: 00:42:03

to see what might work, or might not

work, to be able to create that culture,

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: 00:42:09

in order for us to create those goals,

so that we can achieve that flexibility,

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: 00:42:14

so that we can live a life that might

be a nomad, or might be something else.

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: 00:42:18

It might even mean that you have

to believe in a mindset that

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: 00:42:22

changes your self awareness, that

changes the perspective of what

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: 00:42:26

sacrifice looks like in your life.

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: 00:42:30

Ladies and gentlemen, it's quite simple.

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: 00:42:32

If you're willing to wake up and

change who you are, and have that self

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: 00:42:36

actualization that we've talked about

with Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs on

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: 00:42:40

many different types of episodes, if

you're able to live outside the bubble

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: 00:42:45

that you live in today, I guarantee

you, you will see a risk, but you will

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: 00:42:52

also see a reward if you're willing

to see it through every single day.

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Failure is sometimes going

to happen, and that's okay.

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: 00:43:04

I can't tell you how many times I failed

until I finally got myself onto this show,

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got myself into this podcast, and have

been so rewarded by both of those ventures

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: 00:43:14

to create this opportunity that we now

have, which now, I'm even expanding even

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: 00:43:18

further into the horizon for With many

new services that I've already talked

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about in this show, including developing

your own podcast, fractional coaching,

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and now heading into the blogosphere,

which I will be starting to write more

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: 00:43:34

about these experiences on my website,

www.yourspeakingvoice.biz under the blog

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: 00:43:41

section that is now newly created, but the

thing is, is that all these opportunities,

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: 00:43:47

these creations that Monica has even

mentioned today, means that you have

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: 00:43:52

to learn how you can expand your mind,

how you can live in an Airbnb for a few

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: 00:43:58

weeks, and get comfortable with who you

are, changing that routine, and sometimes

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: 00:44:05

it starts small, and sometimes you might

not get that buy in, but I will tell you.

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: 00:44:12

That buy in that you don't get,

the negativity that you hear,

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: 00:44:16

is all the voices, all the

reasons why you can't do it.

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: 00:44:20

If you're able to form a plan that

will change those perspectives.

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: 00:44:24

If you can create that

connection with other people.

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: 00:44:26

If you are able to find that awareness

inside yourself to say that this is when

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: 00:44:33

it ends, and a new beginning begins,

that, in itself, will make you not only

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: 00:44:40

brainier, not only smarter, but I think

that you're going to have some of the

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most amazing experiences yet to come.

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: 00:44:48

Regardless if you think that it's going

to happen today, tomorrow, five years

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: 00:44:52

or ten years down the road, know that

no matter where you might be, no matter

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: 00:44:58

where you might reside, no matter where

you'll put your hat at at the end of the

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day, there's no place like home, but home

is where your heart is, and I can't wait

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for you to find your heart when you speak

out loud, sharing it with others, of what

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: 00:45:18

amazing opportunities are yet to come,

just because you changed your habits.

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Thanks for listening to episode

number 170 of Speaking From the

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Heart, and I look forward to

hearing from your heart very soon.

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: 00:45:34

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: 00:45:35

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: 00:45:51

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: 00:45:55

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