Episode #96 Part 1 - The Power Of Persuasion From Unlikely Sources: An Interview With Kaneshi Hart

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Welcome to the podcast where relationships, confidence, and

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determination all converge into

an amazing, heartfelt experience.

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This is Speaking From The Heart.

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Joshua: Welcome back to episode number 96

of Speaking From The Heart, and today's

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episode is going to be another two part

version in which I had the opportunity

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to interview Kaneshi Hart, and when I

say the opportunity, I mean I was blessed

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to meet this wonderful young lady.

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Kaneshi is a Jesus loving, home

inhabiting businesswoman who does

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and enjoys a variety of things.

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In the business world, she hosts the

Coach UP podcast, where she interviews

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six and seven figure coaches about

how they built their businesses.

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She also connects businesses

looking for places to advertise

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with podcasts who have the audiences

those businesses want to target.

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Kaneshi is also a budding trader in the

stock market, and believes everyone needs

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to know how to extract money at any time

from this multi trillion dollar industry.

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Kaneshi arrived at the wonderful world

of podcasting after spending almost 20

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years in corporate America, where she led

and coached high performance teams, and

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was responsible for over 600 employees

and over 300 million dollars in revenue

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generation in the course of her work, but

now, on the other side of the corporate

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life, she's enjoying helping other

people build their businesses through

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the power of connection and conversation.

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You know, there's been a lot of people on

my show that have graced me with not only

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their awesome stories, their wonderful

business models, and the people that have

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made up those stories have some unique

twists and turns in their life, but as

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soon as I knew that Kaneshi was going

to flip the script on me, the podcast

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host of Speaking From the Heart, I knew

that there was going to be something a

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little bit special about this young lady,

and how she's been able to help so many

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different people throughout her young

career, and how she continues to be a

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high performer no matter where she goes.

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What makes part one so interesting to me

is that it isn't just about what she had

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to share with all of us, myself included,

about what she's been able to achieve

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as a result of all these setbacks that

she's had, which she talks about in part

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one, but she's been able to get to the

other side of that, and she stands on a

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rock that I have been looking for for so

long in my life, and I think I finally

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found what that rock is that I needed to

have so that I had some stable ground.

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No matter what kind of bad messaging

you might get in your life, no matter

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what kind of bad things that might

happen, it's about changing your mindset

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so that you're not stuck in the same

two out of 10 ways that oftentimes

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corporate America puts us through, and

I think Kaneshi is one of those models

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of people that will stand on a rock far

greater than anybody else, because of

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her trepidation and her willingness to

just keep pushing forward, regardless of

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any setbacks that happen along the way.

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But with that, let's go to part one

of my interview with Kaneshi Hart.

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All right.

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We're here with Kaneshi Hart.

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Kaneshi, thanks for sharing

your heart with us today.

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Kaneshi: Josh, thank you for

allowing me to share my heart.

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I'm looking forward to this

conversation, but I am curious, what

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pricks your heart, because I want to

know if I'm going to be able to do

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that today with what we talk about.

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What pricks your heart, Josh?

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Joshua: Oh, I love that question,

and thank you for being probably

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one of the first guests, since

I've started this, all 95 episodes

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before, to ask a question like that.

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I have to tell you.

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One of the biggest rewards of what

pricks and makes my heart just beat

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out of my chest is just knowing that

there are people in this world that have

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gone through so many different types

of situations, and they have gifts that

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they're willing to share, and that's been

really the most rewarding thing that I've

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been able to do in my life and see other

people do, and Kaneshi, I have to tell you

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that just even with our conversation we

had beforehand, I feel like this is going

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to be an interview quite like I never

had before, where you have a lot to bring

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to the table, so, I really want to start

off this conversation with you because I

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think it's really important, especially

being a fellow podcast host myself,

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that you have your own podcast, which

I've already introduced to the audience.

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Tell us a little bit about how you got

into podcasting in the first place.

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Kaneshi: Josh.

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Okay.

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That's a funny story.

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I'm going to tell you the medium

length, so for those of you all who

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listen, you're like, "Oh my gosh.

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She's about to tell me

her whole life story."

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I'm not, but I'm going to give you enough

detail, so I actually started a podcast,

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Josh, almost four years ago, but I was

angry, so I don't know if you've ever been

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in that space where you do something out

of anger, so like, you're getting back at

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the world in your own way, but you don't

really know that that's what you're doing

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until somebody holds a mirror up to you.

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So I-

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Joshua: That happened

quite a lot four years ago.

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Yes, absolutely.

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I'm sorry.

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Kaneshi: So you know

what I am talking about?

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Joshua: Yes.

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Kaneshi: Okay, so I started this podcast

called Candid Corporate Conversations.

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You all can go find it.

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It's still up.

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I think I did 14 episodes,

and then I found Jesus.

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I knew who Jesus was before, but I hadn't

given my life to Jesus Christ, and so

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in 2020, I gave my life to Jesus Christ.

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I was born again, and started

following him, and he was like, "Shut

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that podcast down because you doing

stuff out of anger and being hateful

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to people.", and I was like, "Oh."

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I wanted to cry, but I was being

obedient, so- oh, and I had that

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podcast because as a woman in the

corporate space, Josh, I just thought

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that women were not getting their due.

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There's still times that that does happen,

and we need to be candid and talk about

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it, so that's where Candid Corporate

Conversations came from, so fast forward.

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I was like, "Oh.

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I'm never going to be on

a podcast again I enjoy."

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Josh, you know this, you podcast.

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You know this is fun.

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I didn't, and I interviewed

people and so it's so much fun.

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I was like, "Oh.

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I'm never going to get to do that again."

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I moaned and cried about a little

bit, but you move on, and then a year

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and a half ago, Jesus said, "Start

a podcast.", and I was like, "Yes.",

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and now I'm out of corporate America.

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I'm no longer working, and he didn't

tell me what it was going to be

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about, so then in January of 2023,

he said, "Start with coaches."

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Josh.

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Ask me if I'm a coach.

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Joshua: Are you a coach, Kaneshi?

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Kaneshi: Josh, I am not a coach!

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I was like...

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"Lord, why am I starting

a podcast about coaches?"

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I still haven't gotten that answer.

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I have my thoughts, but he said "The

podcast I want you to start about

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coaches.", so that is how Coach UP was

born, and I interviewed six and seven

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figure coaches who share how they built

their business to that level, because

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for coaches like you, Josh, your a coach.

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We didn't talk about, I don't know

how long you've been coaching.

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How long have you been coaching?

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Joshua: I find it funny that you even

d that you started in January: 2023

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because that's exactly the year and

month in which I started my business,

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Your Speaking Voice LLC, so I ended the

year around four or five figures, so

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I'm not quite ready for your podcast

yet, apparently, but I'm getting there.

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Kaneshi: But you're on your way,

right, and that's exactly what it's

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for, so that's so cool that you

started your business this year, and

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this is the year my podcast started

exactly for that; but I'm not a coach,

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and so I was like, "Okay, but all

right, Lord, I'm going to do this."

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The six and seven figure coaches share

how they have built their business at

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that level so that coaches like yourself

can pick up tips, learn their techniques,

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their strategies so that you can build

your business to that six and seven figure

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business, if that's what you want to do.

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That's how it came about, and it's funny

because I keep telling Jesus, I was like,

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"There are other people that I want to

talk to that are not in coaching, because

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I'm not a coach, so why am I getting

this?", but I really think he knows,

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Josh, you know, when you need to be told

something, but you don't want to listen.

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I don't know.

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Have you ever been in that situation?

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Joshua: I have to say, I have been

in that situation a number of times,

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and even going in the first year of

opening, I felt like there was been a

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struggle of, "Am I doing the right thing?

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Is this really my calling?

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Am I actually impactful?

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Am I selling my worth?", and I've

had a lot of those internal dialogue

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conversations with myself until I

started doing the podcast, and then

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I realized that these people that

I've been interviewing had similar

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struggles, but then it's all about

surrounding yourself with family.

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To answer your question,

yes, I definitely have.

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Kaneshi: Absolutely.

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I love what you just said.

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It's about surrounding yourself with

family, right, and even the people that

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we meet with podcasting, there's some

people you just connect with, and they're

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in that realm of, like we were talking

about earlier, it's just a mindset

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shift, and so I really think the Lord was

like, "I need to get you some coaching.

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You're not paying for it yet, so I need

to give you some for free at the moment.",

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so that's why I think I get to interview

coaches, but that's how I came about.

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Joshua: I love that for many

reasons, and I even have said, and

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my listeners probably get tired of

me saying this, but I say it again.

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I have always appreciated, especially on

this podcast, Speaking From The Heart,

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of all the different perspectives,

because I've had people that have

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fled church and have not looked back.

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I've had people that have embraced

church, and they have different viewpoints

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than maybe even I have, but what I have

found always interesting about every

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single conversation I have is that

it challenges the status quo within

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ourselves, even myself, and I've even

listened to some of my older episodes.

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Yes, for my listeners, I do listen to

my own podcasts, even after I edit them,

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because I find it that I take nuggets,

even afterwards, 6 or 12 months down

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the road, and I say, "Wow, I can't

believe I listened to this many times

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and I didn't pick up on this before.",

so it's appreciating those different

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viewpoints, but Kaneshi, you said

something that is really valuable,

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which is that you surrounding yourself

with six, seven figure business owners,

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which I've had some people in the

show that have achieved that and they

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have a different mindset compared to

other people, so really my question

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for you is what led you into this?

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I mean, I understand that

you got laid off three times?

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Is that some of that motivation?

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Kaneshi: Oh, that was- I don't

know if it was motivation, Josh.

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More of a sign being dropped down

in front of my eyes, and I just kept

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missing it until finally I got it, so

the last four years, I have been laid

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off three times, so the first time was

in: 2018

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the company shut down the location,

but the company was still operational.

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They just shut down the location I

was working at, so that was the first

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time and I could have- Oh my goodness!

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I don't know if you know

this, Josh, so i'm curious.

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My job was being shipped overseas, out

of the country, like they were moving

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all of our jobs out of the country.

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Did you know that the government will

pay for ridiculous number of benefits

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if your job is moved out of the country?

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For example, they will pay for

you to go back to school to get

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a partial degree or full degree.

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They will give you an amount of

money, like a good amount of money.

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They will pay for it for free.

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They will pay for your relocation.

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Oh my goodness if you

have to move for a job.

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They provide you with resources

for finding a new job and all of

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those agency connection, job board,

resume writing, all of that, and

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then there's some other ridiculous,

like really amazing statistics.

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Did you know that the government

provides this if your job is

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shipped out of the country?

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Joshua: I have loved preparing my

own taxes the last few years right

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before I started my own business

when you go through and they ask

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you number of questions about,

"Hey, did your job get relocated?

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Did you lose your job because of X, Y

and Z happening?", and I'm thinking, "Why

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are they asking me all these questions?",

and then I started to think, "Oh my word.

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They've been subsidizing all kinds of

American taxpayers when these sort of

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things happen.", so in a way I did, but

I also didn't realize after you just said

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what you said that it was to that degree,

so that is impressively crazy in my view.

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Kaneshi: But when you are the one who's

getting laid off, you are very grateful,

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so I could have taken advantage of

all of those benefits, found another

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job in another industry, gone back to

college, got some degree, whatever.

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I didn't.

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I applied for another

job within my company.

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Praise the Lord.

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I got that job.

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It was very cool because I got to

travel to the Dominican Republic on

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a regular basis on my company's dime.

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Oh, my goodness; so

much fun for two years.

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Amazing, but then, unfortunately, COVID

happened, and layoff number two happens.

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Okay, so at this point, I didn't even

pay attention, but I think the Lord

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was like, "I have something else for

you to do", but I didn't pay attention.

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I took a year off and then I went

back to work and I thought- Jesus

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said, "Okay, this, maybe he did.

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Maybe he didn't."

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I still don't know, but eight

months later, Josh, they fired me.

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Joshua: They fired you?

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Kaneshi: They fired me.

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Joshua: You mean they did that five

letter word that we all dread, that

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I know that really hurts a lot of

people to the core, because they

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think they're not good enough?

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Kaneshi: Mm mm.

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What's that five letter word?

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Joshua: Fired?

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Kaneshi: Fired.

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Joshua: Wow.

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Kaneshi: Fired me, and now, they fired

me because they were doing illegal stuff,

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and I'll just give you one example; I

don't know all the illegal stuff they

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were doing, but this is the part they

wanted me to participate in, and I will

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say this for you and for all listeners,

our integrity, you know, people say your

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word is all you have, so translate that

to our integrity is the only thing we

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have to stand on, and if I compromise

it for anybody that I compromise it

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for myself and I'm the only person

who has to live with it, ultimately.

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It impacts other people, but I got to

deal with that, and so finally finding

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Jesus Christ, I was like, "This is a no.

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I answer to him.

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I don't answer to y'all.

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He'll take care of me.", so they were

asking people to drive cars in Georgia

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that their tags were out of date, but not

like, like three weeks, like we talking

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like three months, like six months, like

we just want to send people, and this is

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the company vehicles that a whole lot of

people are driving and we want to send

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them out in this and tell them, "Oh, if

you just get stopped", I don't even know

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what we were supposed to tell them, but

I live in Georgia and, in Georgia we

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had some challenges with police officers

and stops that sometimes went wrong.

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One, I'm not willing to sign off

on people doing illegal stuff, like

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I know your tags are wrong and I'm

going to willingly send you out.

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Nope, and then two, I want

to put your life potentially

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in danger if you get stopped.

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Nope, so, I continued to make a lot of

noise and they fired me, but I will say,

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they also had filed Chapter 11 bankruptcy.

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Hmm.

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They not in business anymore.

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Hmm.

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Just in case when people want to do

stuff, that's not as it should be,

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sometimes things don't work out well,

so three jobs in four years, and that's

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how I realized the Lord was like, "I

need you to not work for anybody else.

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I need you to work for you.", and that's

how I came to podcast, and then my podcast

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business extension, and everything I

do now, beause I am curious for you,

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beause you own your own business, Josh.

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Joshua: Yes, I do.

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Kaneshi: And you have your own

podcast, so, is this all that you do?

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Joshua: I actually have a full time

job in which I've worked with the

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Commonwealth of Pennsylvania being a

civil servant for over 13 years, which

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I'm hoping that once I get my six

to seven- notice that I said hoping.

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I had to stop myself for a second.

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When I do-

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Kaneshi: When.

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Joshua: When it happens,

because it will happen-

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Kaneshi: Yes.

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Joshua: I will be able to walk away with

a life of freedom doing what I really

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want to do, because I'm really passionate

about what it is, Kaneshi, that I've been

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able to achieve, but at the same time,

you said something that really resonates

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with me, and I think resonates with

our listeners as well, which is about

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not only integrity, which is one of the

biggest things that sometimes we lose

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when it comes to having the soul sucked

out of us by corporates and people in

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suits, and things of that nature, when

we necessarily know that we're doing the

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right thing, although they don't realize

they're doing the wrong thing, but it's

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really about not only looking deep inside

of yourself of what you need to do the

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change, but to continuously push the

needle so that you are living with the

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best version of yourself, which I know.

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I know what you're saying, and I feel

that for so many people, it's a struggle.

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I mean, do you agree with that?

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Kaneshi: I'm so glad you brought that

up, and yes, I do, because this is

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what I want to say being called out

of corporate America, so three jobs,

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four years, three layoffs; okay.

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People might be wondering, how are

you surviving, and so I, in my new

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Christian walk was like, "Oh, Jesus

couldn't rain down money like he

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rained down manna from the earth."

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No, he can, but no, that's not what

happened, and so to your point of having

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to basically put one foot in front of

the other, make sure that I am staying

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focused on what I'm doing and pushing

through, like since losing my job or

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being fired, let's call it what it is.

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I've had to figure out how I'm going

to bring in income while building a

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business, right, because the podcast

didn't officially launch until February,

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and we're still in the process of

monetizing it, and so I want to make

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sure people know, like, whatever you

have to do to make your dream work,

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do it like there's no shame in it.

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There is no, "I need

to look a certain way."

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people need to perceive me as- no, no, no.

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Do whatever you need to do that is legal,

moral, unethical, right, that is going to

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help you get to the dream that you know

is meant for you and that you're working

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for, and however you got to get there, it

is fine, so like I substitute teach now.

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I love that because I can pop in when I

want to, and I don't have to when I don't

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want to, but it allows me additional

income, in addition to building the

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podcast, right, and then I'll look for

other little ways to bring in money,

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but I do whatever I have to do, and then

the other thing is structuring your day,

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and so Josh, I admire you because you

are running multiple businesses, because

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I consider a podcast, a business in of

itself, along with your coaching business,

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along with working a full time job, right,

along with you love to speak, right?

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You're doing a lot, and so there's

got to be management of your time,

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right, and you have to push through

those days that you don't want to do

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anything like where you just are tired.

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I'm sure you've had this.

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Joshua: There's a couple of things

that you said that I definitely

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need to interject and say, because

first off, you're right, it is

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about time management, and for maybe

people that don't even realize this.

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It isn't about working the nine to five.

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You have to work the five to nine

lifestyle, because I learned that many,

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many decades ago, and it has stuck

in my brain that in order to achieve

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awesome opportunities in life, we have

to put in a little bit extra energy

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and time into something that we do.

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It doesn't mean doing it for

the wrong things because I will

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say that for much of my life.

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I was doing that I was doing it

for the wrong reasons, but now I'm

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realizing through self revelation

that I have this time available to me.

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Why not use it for something

that is really good?

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Why not surround myself with a family

of different people that help create

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that synergy, or that synergistic

opportunity that we all have deep inside

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of ourselves, so that we can do that,

but there's even something else that

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you said is that some people don't just

get a handout saying, "Here you go.

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Here's your business.

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You can start this."

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This isn't how it works.

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You have to build it from the

ground up, which means you might

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have to have a full time job.

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There was no shame in that whatsoever, so

I commend those people that have to do a

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full time job, and then, do multiple other

jobs to in order to start that business.

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I can't stress that enough.

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I think some people think, "Oh yeah.

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You have to give that all

up so that you have two feet

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forward into what you're doing.

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You need to do it full time.", and I

think for all the people that say that.

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You're lousy coaches, and I'll say

that on the record because you don't

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realize that sometimes the biggest

sacrifices that people have to make

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is the monetary aspects of the life.

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They need to be able to have a quality

life in order to live, so now that

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I'm done with my soapbox, I'm going to

put it away and let you speak again.

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Kaneshi: No, that's really important.

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Joshua: Yeah.

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Kaneshi: It's a good soapbox, and

I want to stay there for a minute

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because it's not shameful to work and

build your business at the same time.

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Okay, and so, we all come into awareness

of stuff when it's something that we're

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looking for consciously or unconsciously.

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I say that to say, most of the social

media that I see now is build your

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six figure coaching business, because

you know, I'm in the space of coaches.

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You are a coach, right, so this

is what pops up on my feed.

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That's what I'm looking for.

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Build your coaching business

in six hours a week and make

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a hundred thousand dollars.

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Lies, but for whatever reason,

that is what constantly comes

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through my social media feed.

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Whatever I'm looking at, but the reason

I point that out is because that's

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not reality, right, and we're fed

that message, and instead, we need to

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bypass all the crazy that tells us you

can do less work and get more results.

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Yes, there is a way to do less work

and get more results when you delegate

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that work out to somebody else.

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The work does not change.

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Okay, so I want people to hear that.

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The work does not change.

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You may do less because you are delegating

out, which means you need to pay

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somebody or I am a proponent of interns.

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If you don't have interns in your

business; I actually have one.

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I'm on the hunt for two or three more.

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It's wonderful for your interns to

be able to get experience, and then

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you to be able to get labor that does

not cost you at this point in your

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business, but it's not, you can do it

at any point in your business, right?

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There are multi million dollar

companies that have interns.

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Hello!

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Joshua: On the job

experience is so important.

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Yeah.

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Kaneshi: Right, and to be able to

provide that, be a mentor, so as

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you're building your business, you're

building a business for a reason.

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Whether you're not, even if you're

not building a business, let's

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say you're a public speaker and

you want to do that alongside

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your full time job, get an intern.

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Mentor somebody.

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Mentor a child, a high schooler at

college- give them an opportunity to

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be in your space to get mentorship

and get on the job experience.

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Hello!

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That's a win win for everybody,

but again, I digress.

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We have to realize that building a

business, the work has to be done and

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people who are putting in that work, those

who actually have jobs sometimes do better

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than those of us who do not, and why do

I say that, because Josh, do you know,

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there are days that I choose- note the

word I said choose; not to make a calendar

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plan for my day, and I get jack done.

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Joshua: Yeah.

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Kaneshi: Nothing, or at least let me

say, nothing that's going to propel

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my business forward, right, and so

just to be, to speak from the heart,

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to be transparent with you guys, there

are days as entrepreneurs, we just

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don't do what we're supposed to do.

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If you're an entrepreneur, if you're

a person, and you have a to do

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list, like you probably know this.

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If we don't make a plan, we

don't do it, and so those who

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actually, have you ever heard the

saying busy people get more done?

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Joshua: Yeah, I've heard that, and I think

that's a bunch of hogwash, to be honest.

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Kaneshi: Oh, we got to talk about it!

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I believe it, because

you- I love what you said.

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Work your 5 to 9 like

you work your 9 to 5.

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Those of us who are not working

can sometimes, if we don't plan

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out the day and schedule it, oh my

goodness, we can work nine to nine

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and get done a third of what you

guys get done, right, so I think it's

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important, yes, what you said is true.

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People need to know you can build your

business alongside another business.

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I am in this full time, but I have, quote,

unquote, a job that allows me to keep

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: 00:24:02

my focus that I have to be more specific

with my time, but now I'm curious.

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I want to know, Josh, you

said it's hogwash that-

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Joshua: Yes.

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Kaneshi: People busy people.

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What is that?

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What is that about?

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Joshua: I have seen, time and time

again, people that think that,

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"Oh, if I just remain busy, I will

be able to make the connections.

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I'll be able to have this opportunity that

maybe other people don't have.", so it's

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sort of a double edged sword, right, so

I have to walk back my soapbox now and

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be like, "Well, maybe five to nine might

be unrealistic.", but here's the thing.

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There's one universal concept that we

often forget about, which is balance,

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and I think that we need to have a

balance between when we're working,

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but also taking intentional time for

ourselves, and my listeners have heard

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this a lot about my own personal story.

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I never took the personal time for myself.

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As a matter of fact, Kaneshi, I feel

like you and I kind of come from this

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because you have been over two decades

in the corporate world, leading people,

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over 600 employees at one point,

over 300 million dollars in revenue.

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You understand that it's about

balance, because if you are just

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trudging and trudging along, and

you're taking your computer at home

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and you're still trudging and trudging

along, where's the time for you?

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Where's the time for you to be able to

finally say, "I need to do something that

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I really enjoy", and I think that, yeah,

some people like doing that, and for all

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those people that do, I bless you because

you certainly have been able to do that,

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but I think that we often get burned

out as a result of just doing that work

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over and over again, but I'm curious,

because you asked me that question, I want

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to ask you this, because you're on the

other side of being part of the corporate

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world, and you are almost ready to start

your own business, which we were just

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talking about too, what would you say

is really your motivation for doing it?

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Is it because you want to do

something that you passionately enjoy?

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Is it because you want to have your

own freedom, because I think that even

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nowadays, those become cliché statements.

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In other words, what is your real reason?

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Now I'm asking you to really

speak from the heart, Kaneshi.

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Kaneshi: The reason I paused

Josh is because I love it.

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I love your podcast,

Speaking From The Heart, and-

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Joshua: I'm not the only one to say that.

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Yes.

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Kaneshi: Oh my goodness!

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I love it!

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It almost gives us the freedom

to say those things that you

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normally wouldn't say out loud.

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You might tell yourself, but I want to,

I'm going to share, so that question

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is a good question because I'm still

looking for the passion that's driving

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me, but this is what drives me, and

I don't understand it, and so for me,

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I have to learn to be comfortable in

this space until I get some clarity.

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Literally, I'm doing what I'm doing:

my podcast, the business that I'm

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going to start, and I also trade in

the stock market right now poorly.

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Let's not talk about that.

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Joshua: Yeah.

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As of the time of this recording,

the stock market has not been

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doing very well whatsoever.

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Yes-

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Kaneshi: No it has not.

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No, and I have not been trading it

well, but I will get better, but all of

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those those three things that I'm doing

literally is out of obedience, and so I

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want your listeners to hear this, that

you may have this inclination, this idea

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that just will not allow you to- to let

it go, like it just keeps coming up.

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People keep saying it.

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If you are religious and you follow

whomever you follow and you feel like

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that's been your inspiration, what have

you, like there's just something that

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just says, this is what you're supposed

to do, and nobody else agrees with you.

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Everybody else thinks you're crazy.

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Everybody else is like,

"What are you doing?

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This is either not going to work,

or you need to stay in as nine to

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five, or you may be in a nine to

five and you're sacrificing something

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to do this dream, and they're like,

"There's no-" you don't get why you're

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still on that path, but you are and

nothing is making sense around you.

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That's honestly where I am, but

you're just doing it out of obedience.

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You're doing it out of; I like

what you said, revelation that

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you had, right, for yourself.

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You know that you know, that you know

this is what I'm supposed to be doing,

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and then you just do it, and we have

to trust and we have to have faith

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that it will reveal to us if we don't

know why that that why will come.

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If we don't know where the things

are going to come from, that the

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people are going to come from.

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I'll tell you, when I started my

podcast, oh my goodness, Josh, to

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be able to interview millionaires,

million multi millionaires on a podcast

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that was just starting, so I had no

followers and have people saying, "Yes."

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For me, that's only God, right, like

that's only, only doing what I'm supposed

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to do, and it wasn't hard, right?

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I love your podcast because you're way

booked out as far as episodes dropping,,

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and I am done for my podcast through

the end of the year, like if I didn't

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do another interview until January,

I'd be good, but I didn't do that.

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I'm not anybody.

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I am everybody's somebody, but I'm

not anybody that people would know.

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Joshua: I was going to say you are

somebody to me because you own the show.

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Yes.

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: 00:29:05

Kaneshi: But you know, it's not,

these individuals don't know me.

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: 00:29:07

I don't have a big following to say

come, but they came and so what drives

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me is just the desire to do what I'm

supposed to do, and I love- the other

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thing I'll say really quickly because

we were talking about this, like don't

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: 00:29:18

go on forever when you're answering a

question on a podcast, just a little too.

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: 00:29:23

but I will say this.

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: 00:29:24

When I created my Instagram handle it's

the connection collaborator, so y'all

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: 00:29:28

can find me on IG at the connection

collaborator, and I was like, "I don't

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: 00:29:31

even know where this is coming from.

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: 00:29:33

Why is this my handle?", but as God has

revealed it to me, like I get to connect

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: 00:29:38

people, so I will say I love and enjoy

what I get to do and I just don't know

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: 00:29:45

the big why yet, but I am continuing on

the path out of obedience and commitment

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: 00:29:52

is doing what you don't want to do,

or doing what you said you were going

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: 00:29:57

to do, even when the feeling that you

had when you said it is long gone and

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that's what I'm walking in right now.

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Joshua: I left the last part as a

cliffhanger for our next part of this

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: 00:30:11

episode in which Kaneshi and I continue

our conversation about the importance of

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moving forward, being able to understand

that the path that we normally walk on

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: 00:30:21

can have its own unique challenges, but

even with all this said, let's recap

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: 00:30:27

what we've heard so far, because this was

an absolutely fascinating conversation

534

: 00:30:30

about how the level of perseverance

moving from one point to another can

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make such a big difference, especially

when you're laid off three times from

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: 00:30:40

your job, and I think that is something

we all have experienced at one point

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or another: whether we've been fired,

whether we have walked out of the job

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that we have been in for many years

because of frustrations, regardless of

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: 00:30:55

what circumstances or situations, we've at

least had that thought one time or another

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: 00:31:00

of quitting and moving on, and it might

not have been just from a job perspective.

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We all have this mindset shift that

we continue to go through in our

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: 00:31:09

lives because we start to understand

more and more and more about what we

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: 00:31:13

want to do in our lives, and I think

this is what we obviously are trying

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: 00:31:18

to do to move forward for ourselves.

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We have to be able to get something

from the things that we spend the

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: 00:31:25

most time in, which, for many of us,

working is predominantly the biggest

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: 00:31:31

part of our lives or should it be?

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: 00:31:34

Is anyone really helping us to get to

that next step, that next part of our

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: 00:31:39

adventure that we want to live in?

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: 00:31:41

Are we really standing

up for our own beliefs?

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Can we do that, despite the fact that we

have to slave away at a job that maybe

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: 00:31:50

is not fulfilling who we are, but I

think that we need to stay focused, and

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Kaneshi really talked a lot about what

we can do to help create that dream for

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us, regardless of what that looks like.

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It's not just the things that we try to

create to help us to understand what that

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dream is all about, but we have to stay

focused with it, and I think that our

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focus gets shifted from all the different

aspects of our lives, whether it's from

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the home, whether it's from the other

people that we are trying to support, it

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: 00:32:19

could be a mixture of medical, physical,

other sort of aspects of our lives that

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: 00:32:25

even in previous episodes, we've talked

about the importance of that balance,

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being able to understand how much we can

give, but how much we need to take too,

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because we need to sustain ourselves, but

the biggest thing that really stuck out

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in part one of this conversation is that

we have this bad messaging that we have

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to hear from others time and time again.

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I think that we need to bypass that

bad messaging in order to do the stuff

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that is really necessary for our own

enrichment, and I love the fact that

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Kaneshi even talked about the fact that

even for a business model, we try to

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do that with interns, because interns

in themselves can help to create some

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: 00:33:05

of that value while giving them some

practical starting out experience.

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Being an intern myself at the Department

of Justice many moons ago, I got to learn

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firsthand the aspect of public service and

what was really necessary for us to defend

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the constitutional rights of other victims

of foul play, whether that was from drug

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smuggling or other sort of human smuggling

or trafficking, as I worked in the

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domestic security section at that time.

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It taught me a lot about what the federal

government can obviously do to help

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protect our rights, but at the same time,

work with some talented, thoughtful,

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considerate people that have been going

the distance in helping to protect

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others, but are you going to ignore

the signals that are around you when

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you have those sort of ploys, or those

trouble spots that go along the way?

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I think we need to start having candid

conversations with each other about the

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importance of not just working through

some of those difficulties, but we also

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have to stay focused with what that means,

and that focus is often shifted from the

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fact that we have all these different

problems that we got going on in our

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lives, but that's why it's so important

to connect with the right people.

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Connections that are made, not

just in the professional realm,

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but also in the personal realm,

can make such a big difference in

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the overall grand scheme of things.

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I know for a fact that if it

wasn't for some of the professional

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development opportunities that I've

had in my life, let alone the people

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that I've encountered, I would have

never been able to open my coaching

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business, Your Speaking Voice LLC.

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As a matter of fact, some of my first

clients out of the gate were some of my

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friends that really needed some help,

and I knew that I had something that

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I could potentially give to them, but

you can't always rely on your friends

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forever, which I've also evolved and

now been working with other entities

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and other groups as a result of my

work just starting out, but that's

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the whole deal, ladies and gentlemen.

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We all have to start somewhere, and

your friends can be the starting point

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for all kinds of different things

that are happening, regardless if

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it's in your business, regardless

if it's in your personal life.

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I think that we often have trouble trying

to change our mindset because we're then

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surrounded by some very toxic people.

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I can't count the numerous amount of

times I've had people in my life that were

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just so toxic in nature that it literally

debilitated me from being able to create

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: 00:35:37

those best opportunities in my life.

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I would even want to mention their

names, but the fact is that those

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names don't matter anymore, and

obviously enough, those people probably

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aren't thinking about me as well,

so why give them more credence than

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what is really necessary, but that's

what I did for the longest time.

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Kaneshi could have done the same thing.

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She could have held on to those people

that really did her in by laying her off

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three times, but instead, she started to

create a journey for herself, not only

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doing the Coach UP podcast, but also

starting her own business being able to

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help others with generating that revenue.

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Money is not the sole object of starting

a business, and I think that we've

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talked about that in numerous episodes,

even starting with Kyle Slaymaker, in

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which we even started to talk about in

that episode, the importance of having

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a good relationship with someone, but

then, there's something about Kaneshi

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that has really rubbed me at this

point in the interview, in a good way,

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and it's this: she's able to stand

up for her beliefs and stay focused.

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It took a lot of persevering, and

pushing forward, to be able to

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bypass all those different things

that have happened in her life.

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I think that she has a great support

system, and even before we started this

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episode, we talked about the importance

of having that network, and even the

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: 00:37:04

people that she was meeting literally

after our interview was something that

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was of great significance to help build

her up, not only in the professional

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sense, but knowing that there's a common

connection that lies out there, so for

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my owners out there, if you have never

explored having a small business network

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of your own, even if you're just a

solopreneur, or even working with other

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people in your partnership, or other

types of business models, you're going

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to be able to find a lot of support

and a lot of networking through just

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overcoming some of the common obstacles

that we all faced when it comes to even

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starting a business for that matter, but

the same goes for even our own lives.

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If we know that we have those individuals

in our lives that can see the signals that

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are being ignored by us, they can call

them out for us to be able to understand

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that we need to spend some time to work

on them, but that's what I think I loved

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about Kaneshi and what she had shared,

because in Part 2, there's something

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that's even bigger that is shared, but

I'll leave that for the next part of

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this whole episode to discuss what those

important aspects are that she taught

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me, but I think that it's really about

knowing who your network is, and it's

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: 00:38:23

about growing who you are through that

network, so let me ask you this today.

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Are you surrounding

yourself with greatness?

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Are you helping others to shift their

mindsets, and are you creating that

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: 00:38:38

value, that opportunity, that is

given to you by moving forward, and

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is anything that you're doing actually

helping for that bigger belief that

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you have inside yourself and for

your other people that you serve,

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: 00:38:53

whether they are your customers,

clients, or other sort of designated

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people that you decided to help out?

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I will say this.

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The next part of this interview is

going to be something that I had never

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thought I would feel, especially starting

this almost a year ago now, but as

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I've mentioned on other episodes, it's

not just about the feeling that we

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have about these guests, or even about

what their impact has been on others.

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It has shown me that there is really

the importance of having that meaningful

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connection and making sure that

you surround your tribe, the tribe

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in which you're building, with the

people that you love the most, are

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willing to give you that support no

matter what happens in your life, but

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are also willing to go the distance.

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I think that for all of us, part

one shows us what's really important

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about what is integrity, respect,

and service to others, because it's

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all important in the big scheme of

things, and you're important too.

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: 00:40:06

Give yourself that value and start

changing your mindset, because

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let's face it, we are all worth it.

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We are all able to create that value

for each other, and even though I

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: 00:40:19

keep saying at the end of my episodes

that we are awesome people that

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are worthy of that opportunity, I

think that it's more than just the

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transcendence of thinking that thought.

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It's about putting it into action,

and oh my goodness, will we put it

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in action in part two of my interview

with Kaneshi Hart, but until then,

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thanks for listening to Speaking

From the Heart, and I look forward

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to hearing from your heart very soon.

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