Episode 100

Episode #96 Part 2 - Seeking Our Accountability Partner To Share Our Hearts: An Interview With Kaneshi Hart

Have you found your accountability partner to help you stay on track and be focused with your goals? Similar to a coach, finding someone that can fill the void of making sure that you stay on track is vital to the success of the day-to-day, let alone the dreams that you set out to create. In this exciting conclusion to our interview with Kaneshi Hart, we discuss the importance of this concept, along with finding the "crazy, undeniable love" that we wish to have in the pursuit of what we truly enjoy. Not only do we find our true purpose (our "why"), but we are able to create dynamics in many of the expectations that we set for ourselves. This episode cumulates into the most undeniable concept of why this show, Speaking From The Heart, exists, and will blow you away with the sincerity, conviction, and purpose that both our podcast host and his guest both express in how they both forever move forward in creating value for themselves and others.

Guest Bio

Kaneshi is a Jesus loving, home inhabiting, businesswoman who does and enjoys a variety of things. In the business world, she hosts the Coach UP podcast where she interviews six and seven figure coaches about how they built their businesses. She also connects businesses looking for places to advertise with podcasts who have the audiences those businesses want to target. Kaneshi is also a budding trader in the stock market and believes everyone needs to know how to extract money at any time from this multi-trillion dollar industry.

Kaneshi arrived at the wonderful world of podcasting after spending almost 20 years in corporate America where she led and coached high performance teams and was responsible for over 600 employees and over $300M in revenue generation in the course of her work.

But now, on the other side of corporate life, she is enjoying helping other people build their businesses through the power of connection and conversation.

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Intro/Outro By: Michael Dugan, Podcast Host: Voice4Chefs

Transcript
Intro:

Welcome to the podcast where relationships, confidence, and

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determination all converge into

an amazing, heartfelt experience.

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This is Speaking From The Heart.

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Joshua: Welcome back to episode number

96, part two of Speaking From The Heart.

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Now, if you weren't able to join us in

part one, I'm going to ask you to stop

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and go back and listen to part one,

because it was such a powerful part one

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that it will set up the conversation that

we have in part two, but just in case,

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if you're joining us, Kaneshi Hart was

my guest, and I'm going to give a little

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bit of her background again, in case you

want to learn a little bit about her.

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Kaneshi is a Jesus loving, home

inhabiting businesswoman who does

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and enjoys a variety of things.

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In the business world, she hosts the

Coach UP podcast, where she interviews

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six and seven figure coaches about

how they build their businesses.

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She also connects businesses

looking for places to advertise

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her podcast who have the audiences

those businesses want to target.

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Kaneshi is also a budding trader in the

stock market and believes everyone needs

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to know how to extract money at any time

from this multi trillion dollar industry.

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Kaneshi arrived at the wonderful world of

podcasting after spending almost 20 years

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in corporate America where she led and

coached high performance teams and was

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responsible for over 600 employees and

over 300 million in revenue generation

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in the course of her work, but now,

on the other side of corporate life,

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she's enjoying helping other people

build their businesses through the

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power of connection and conversation.

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I have to say that when we got through

this interview, my mouth dropped open.

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You see, back in episode 26 in which

I interviewed Matthew Roda, I made the

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promise at the end of part 2 of that

episode that I would let him know when

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I found somebody that was living an

authentic life, and my goodness ladies

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and gentlemen, I think I found this lady

not just because we were meant to connect

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on this important topic, but there was

a promise that we made to each other

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at the end of this episode that even

to this day, I am still thinking about

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the importance of why it's so entailed

to have a coach, to have somebody that

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truly believes in you, and is willing

to go, no matter what kind of distance,

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to help you show what kind of hope that

you have to make the future better.

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It isn't just about making a six or seven

figure business, but it's about having

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accountability, love, and that ability,

and that reality to say what you really

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have to say when it counts the most.

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Kaneshi was one of those guests that

at the end, I just couldn't hold myself

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back from saying what was truly on my

heart, because this episode, overall,

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really epitomizes the importance of

why I started this project in the first

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place, and why it's so important to

always, truly, speak from the heart.

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But with that let's go to the

conclusion, part two of my

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interview with Kaneshi Hart.

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Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, so you're

telling me you don't know your why?

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I mean, I feel that, Kaneshi, you have

this why inside of you that you've

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been literally articulating to me,

so I feel that you need to define

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that a bit for me and the audience.

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Explain what you mean by you

haven't figured out your why yet.

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Kaneshi: Okay.

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Wait, Josh.

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Okay.

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You said you feel like I've

been articulating it for you.

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I'm going to ask you to be

a mirror for me real quick.

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What have you heard, because

you might be able to help me.

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Joshua: I have to explain

this to the audience.

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Kaneshi: OK.

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Joshua: So one of the things that

I think as a coach, I always say to

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people is: what is it that you really

want to be, so kind of laying that out,

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what is it that you want to achieve?

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You've talked about even earlier what

you want to achieve with opening a

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business, wanting to help people, really

connecting because you love people.

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You have all those elements, right, so

usually in my business, I've talked about

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this in other episodes about SMART goals,

so it's being specific, measurable,

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attainable, blah, blah, blah, blah.

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You have those aspects already in your

head and you're articulating them so

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eloquently to me and our listeners,

so I feel that you have some of that.

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To build upon this, I feel like what

you're saying is that you like to

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help people, so why not be a coach?

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Why not help others to achieve

greatness as you are achieving that

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greatness right now through the love

that you have for Jesus, for the things

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that you've done to achieve what you

have been achieving for the podcast.

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You are doing the work, and I think this

is an important lesson for listeners that

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this is essentially what we have to do.

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We have to kind of negotiate with

ourselves what we're trying to achieve,

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so tell me today, on this episode,

that you are going to open a business.

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You're going to help the people

that you really want to help, but

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more importantly, you're going to

achieve that success that you define.

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You're going to do that for me, right?

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Kaneshi: It's inevitable, right?

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It has to be done.

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I either we have to do it or we just

live with regret and disappointment and

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who wants to live in that space, so I

like what you said, and I appreciate

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the challenge, Josh, because as you

were making that point, there were

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some things that, that came up for me,

which tells me you're a good coach.

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I can already see that.

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Joshua: Thank you for that.

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Kaneshi: Because that's

exactly what coaches do, right?

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You draw out, you make your client, and in

this case, your guest, really think about

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things for ourselves, right, and reflect

back to us, so thank you for doing that,

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so as you talked about that; all right.

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Why am I not a coach, and what do

I already do that already helps

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people maybe would be in that space.

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I'll tell you a quick story

with my substitute teaching.

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Right now as a substitute teacher

in my district, it's beautiful.

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I go online either the night before

or the morning of, and I get to pick

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where I go to work that day, if I want

to work that day, and it's super easy.

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I don't know the children.

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I don't have a connection.

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I'm going in to facilitate what a teacher

needed me to do, and then I'm gone.

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No connection, but over the last month

and for another 30 days coming, I actually

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have taken on what they call a long term

sub position where I'm with the same

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kids for eight weeks and I'm responsible

for their learning, and Josh, to your

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point, I have so much more purpose.

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I have so much more drive.

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I have so much more investment and joy in

knowing that these little minds who get

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on my last nerves quite often, but they

are precious, but these little minds are

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my responsibility to mold, to grow, to

help become better in this time space,

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and that truly drives me, right, so when

I think about my why, I can reflect on

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that and say, "I've not had that in a

long time", because working for myself,

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I don't have a team yet, right, but I

did leadership: leading teams, managing

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teams, supporting teams for almost two

decades, over two decades, and that is-

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yeah, there's a joy that comes, and I

think, to your point again, like your

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why, when you know it, but when you're

operating in it, or your purpose, like

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there is a joy that just naturally comes.

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It doesn't mean stuff isn't hard.

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It doesn't mean there's not parts

that you don't enjoy, but like I

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truly walk away with a sense of

joy, and so why am I not a coach?

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I don't think at the moment that's

supposed to be my space, because in this

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season where I'm getting to be with these

children for a time and lead them, and I

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compare that to like one on one coaching,

I realized I really do well with the team.

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I really do well with the group, right?

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Joshua: Why don't you

do team coaching then?

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Kaneshi: I'm tired of you.

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I'm tired of you Josh.

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Joshua: No, seriously, because if you

don't like working on an individual

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basis, because there are various

different types of coaching for that

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matter, and we all work in different

avenues, or modalities if you will,

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to create those spaces for helping

others, so if you like working with

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multiple people, why not team coaching?

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Why not something in that field, whether

it's not coaching, it's something else?

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Kaneshi, I am challenging you.

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Kaneshi: You are.

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Joshua: I'm putting you on the spot, but-

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Kaneshi: I like it.

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Joshua: I see this passion and this

energy, and my listeners, I'm just

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going to describe what I see right now.

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I see a beautiful lady smiling from chin

to chin and she is; well, cheek to cheek,

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I should say, and definitely creating

this value for all of us that we need

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to be able to learn to just have these

tough conversations that we're so afraid

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of having, because we're not living our

fullest potential, and I know and my heart

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goes out for those people, especially

you right now, it's like, how about put

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you as the victim here of my sort of

charade of questions, but I think it's

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so important because of the people that

you surround yourself with to do this.

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Kaneshi: Yes, because you've got

to have people to challenge you,

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right, because we can talk ourselves

out of stuff in a heartbeat and we

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let ourselves off the hook so very

much, and again, to your point.

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There's a disconnect.

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I can tell the difference when I'm

working on my own on the podcast.

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When I'm working in the business.

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I'm having to do the marketing.

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I'm having to do the admin.

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I'm having to do all that stuff.

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That does not bring me any joy.

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There's a difference in that

when I'm talking to a guest.

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We're having this amazing

conversation today.

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There's a different light.

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There's a different energy.

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There's a different light and energy for

me when I'm working with these children

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that I get the privilege of helping,

and so, yes, to your point, when I'm

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not there it's not as fun of a place,

and so why not push myself, challenge

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myself, to do what you're talking about?

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I don't know what it looks like, but I can

agree with you, and I will say I enjoy one

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on one coaching in the midst of a group,

so I love that one on one because, and you

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know this Josh, and I know you've seen it.

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We talked about it earlier.

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Where you get to see

people's lives change.

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They overcome obstacles.

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They reach new heights.

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Okay.

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Let me, let me share this with your,

with your client; your guest, okay.

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Guys-

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Joshua: Listeners.

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Kaneshi: Your listeners!

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Your guests.

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You all our guests today-,

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Joshua: They're all my guests, but

you're my listeners, but I hope you'd

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be my guests at some point, along with

even my clients, but anyways, go on-

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Kaneshi: All of that.

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Joshua: Yes.

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Kaneshi: I want people to know, no

matter what you're doing, and who you're

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working with, if you work with people

in any capacity or on your own, set

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your bar high, and set the bar high

for people around you, because people

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will rise to the bar that you set for

them and then they will thank you for

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believing in them more than they believe

in themselves, for seeing more in them

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than they saw in themselves, and you

know, temper it with how they are.

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Don't set unrealistic standards for

people, but I've truly have seen when

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you hold people to a higher standard,

they rise to that and people love it.

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One of my team members told me- it's been

almost eight years, but one of the things

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for me is I think on things for 48 hours,

like I don't make decisions immediately.

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Everybody's different, but that's me,

but in my one on one session with her.

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We had that conversation.

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She was going through some stuff and years

later, she sent me a message on Facebook.

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This has been in the last year, and

she was like, "I still make decisions."

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She had done something.

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I congratulated her on her, and she said,

"Well, I made the decision because I still

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wait 48 hours before I make a decision."

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When you have those moments that

you know you've impacted somebody,

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yeah, and you've helped them to

make adjustments in their lives.

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You're right.

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There's a joy, and so I do.

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I know my why is to help people.

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I just need to figure out, in addition

to the podcast, in addition to the

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business that I'm building, how else

that looks that's also fulfilling

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for other people, as well as me,

so I think I have some work to do.

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Joshua: I'm going to throw one more

challenge on you because you said

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about not liking the marketing,

the admin stuff for that, but

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we were just talking about that.

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That's why we have interns.

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Those are the people that do that work.

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You are designed to do the

things that you enjoy that you're

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passionate about, so hire somebody.

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Here; this is some advice for the

listeners to even for you, Kaneshi, hire

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the people that love doing the accounting.

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Hire the people that

love to do the marketing.

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I have two people in my life.

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I'm going to give them a quick shout out

because I haven't yet, but I'm hoping to

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have them yet on the show at some point.

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Deborah Mawson, who is my bookkeeper.

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She's been a phenomenal person; make

sure I'm staying in the clear and

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making sure that I have everything

accounted for, but I also have a media

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marketing firm that's helped me with my

social media postings and my website.

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Corey and Brittany Hart

of Enzo Digital LLC.

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Those two groups helped me so much so that

I don't have to worry about those things.

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I get focused on what I love: coaching

and podcasting, which at some point I

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would love to pass along the editing of

my podcast, because I absolutely despise

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it to somebody else because I'm not

that tech savvy when it comes to that

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sometimes, and I know people have more

of a creative niche, but here's my deal.

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This is why I'm saying all this, not only

to you Kaneshi, but to the listeners.

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You have a gift.

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Use it to its fullest potential

because you only have one life to

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live, and we only have so much finite

time, like we were just talking

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about earlier about time management.

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I think that you have this heart of gold

that you've been sharing so far that I

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think that you are destined for greatness.

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I will say that to you, because

you do the Coach UP podcast.

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You surround yourself with six,

seven figure business owners that

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have created so much significant

value, not just monetarily, but with

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relationships, because above all else,

that is what's really important, and,

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you have a relationship with Jesus.

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You have a relationship

with people that love you.

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Why not?

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Make me a promise, okay?

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Can you make me a promise?

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Kaneshi: Let's see what

this promise is, Josh.

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What's you got?

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Joshua: By the next time that you're on

my show, which you will be back on my

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show at some point, I want to hear that

not only did you open your business, not

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only are you doing what you are called

to do, you found your why, but you're

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also one of those six or seven figure

business owners that I get to interview.

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Can you make me that promise?

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Kaneshi: I will commit to

that with a caveat for you.

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Joshua: What's the caveat to me?

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Kaneshi: Yes.

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That likewise, the next time I'm on

your podcast, you will be a six or

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seven figure business owner, and I

will get to have you on my podcast.

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Joshua: Deal.

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If I'm going to hold you the same

standard, I'm going to be doing

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the same work because it's about

accountability; that's what coaches do.

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Kaneshi: Yes.

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Joshua: And that's what's really creating

a lot of those different things, so here.

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I want to put this back into the

general conversation, because I've

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really just been challenging you

the last 20 minutes and I feel like-

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Kaneshi: I appreciate it.

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Joshua: I've been doing that, but I

think this is just a real life example

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for people of sometimes the things

that we wrestle with, but you've been

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through so much with the layoffs.

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A lot of people have been through

a lot of things with COVID.

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I struggled and I've even let my listeners

know way in the past about my struggles

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with that, especially after I tried

suicide, and go on a recovery process

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that was prolonged because of Covid.

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Kaneshi: Mm-hmm.

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Joshua: You have gone through hell.

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Let's be real.

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You have gone through hell having

to stick to your beliefs and

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stay confirmed to those beliefs.

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Kaneshi: Mm-hmm.

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Joshua: What is your purpose?

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I really want you to answer that question.

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It isn't just about the why

that we were just talking about.

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Kaneshi: Mm-hmm.

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Joshua: What is your real purpose?

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Kaneshi: You know, I think it is to be,

man, thank you for this question, and I

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say that because we really- we don't ask

ourselves these enough, and even if we do,

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answering ourselves is hard, but when you

have to say it to somebody else, it really

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makes you think about it, and it hopefully

it makes you honest, so thank you.

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Joshua: You know, I don't like asking

that question to myself, because I

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would be, "Uh, well, but, you know", I

would have all kinds of filler words,

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which for my Toastmaster audiences,

I know I just counted them all.

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It was about four or five.

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Don't worry.

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I got a tracker, but it's part of that.

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We are so concerned about what those

things are that we obsess about it, so

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I think that we kind of overcompensate

for it, so I understand, because I would

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feel uncomfortable about it too, but

putting you on the spot is probably the

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best thing for not only myself, but for

other people listening to this that need

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that hope and know that they do have

that purpose, so I'll ask you again.

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What is your purpose, Kanisha Hart?

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Kaneshi: When you ask me that question,

this is what comes to mind; two things,

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and hopefully they're interrelated.

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One is, it is to be an example to people,

and maybe slightly more with an emphasis

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on women, but not necessarily, but I am

a woman, and love being a woman, and so-

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Joshua: You know, and honestly, let's

just call it out for what it is.

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You're a black woman.

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Kaneshi: Amen.

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Joshua: But you know what?

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You are a successful, powerful black

woman, and I will go to my grave

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appreciating everybody, regardless

of skin color, sex, creed, origin.

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Who cares?

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You're doing it, so

anyways, I have to say that.

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I really do.

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I feel that we shy away from that

conversation, me being a white dude.

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I get it.

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" Oh, he has all the power.

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He controls it."

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No, he doesn't.

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Kaneshi: Right.

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Joshua: No, we all have this equal

shot, and I know that we sometimes

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say, "Well, society tells us we don't."

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Bullshit.

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Kaneshi: Right.

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Correct.

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Society doesn't dictate

the decisions that we make.

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Society doesn't dictate what we choose to

do and not to do, right, and so we have to

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forge our own path by our own decisions,

and so, yes, so I am a lover of Jesus.

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I am a woman and I am born to

amazing parents who are black.

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All of that applies to me, and so

my purpose is to show others what is

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possible, and to be that example for them,

and the second thing that comes to mind

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is I believe the Lord has given me this

dream, and I believe it was spoken over

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me that I am supposed to help women who

are in sex trafficking and Josh, it's

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not just helping them get back on their

feet, but it is the totality of showing

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them what confidence looks like again.

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Showing them what hope looks like again.

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Showing them that as a woman,

you can walk powerfully.

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You can walk confidently.

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You can walk in the dreams, right?

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You can, like you were just talking about.

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It's not society that dictates what we do.

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It is us.

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We make those decisions, regardless of

our background, our sex, all of that,

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and so I feel like my purpose is to

provide that hope to be that example

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of that hope for people who are in

my space, that God sends to my space,

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because we all have space, like we were

talking about earlier for you, you have

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a story, Josh, that people need to hear,

and you have gone through so much of

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yourself, but you are on the other side,

like, and not even on the other side.

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I guess that's a bad way to look at it

because we're all still living life,

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but you have overcome something that

is truly difficult, and you're still

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walking forward, and you're choosing

to make a difference for other people.

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You're choosing to be

courageous every single day.

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You're choosing to pour back into people

when you had a time when you didn't feel

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like anybody was pouring into you, right?

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That is powerful, and there are

people who will connect only with

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you, so you have to share your story.

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You have to continue to be brave,

and so I challenge you to continue

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to do that, and more, because

people need to hear from Josh.

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They absolutely hear from you.

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There are people who will

consider taking their lives.

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There are people who will

consider starting a business.

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There are people who

will want to be a coach.

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There are people who want to do a podcast,

and they will not do it if they don't

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get to hear Josh on Speaking From The

Heart, or they don't get to hear Josh on

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a stage sharing his story or sharing about

how he built his coaching business, or

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sharing the insights you have as a coach.

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They won't, because they need your voice,

because you are unique and special and

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made for a reason, and the life that

you're living correlates with thousands,

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if not millions, of other lives that

need to connect with you, and every

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single person has that, and so I think

for me, my purpose is to be that example

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for those people who need to come that

possible is probable for you, and yeah.

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Thanks.

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Joshua: I have to say this, and

for my listeners, this is me being

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really authentically speaking

from the heart for a moment.

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I'm literally on the verge of tears, as

I usually sometimes am when I have these

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long winded conversations with people,

and the last time I can even think back

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was episode 26, for those that have been

longtime followers, you know that was

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the famous Matthew Roda episode in which

I found out that Matt was doing drugs.

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He found his guardian angel, Helen,

his wife, and has really changed his

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life for the better of running three

businesses, so putting that all to the

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side, I had, Kaneshi, this gentleman,

next morning he says to me, "That was

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the most impactful interview that I've

ever done on any podcast, and you've

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changed my life forever.", and to hear

you say that to me, even in this very

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moment, makes me reaffirm the fact that

I'm literally four episodes away from

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episode 100, and this has been a life

changing experience for me, because what

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originally started as a concept where

I just wanted to really get myself out

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there, to get my story out there, to let

people know a little bit about who I am

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and what this is all about, has turned

into something that has significantly and

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forever changed my life, and it's because

of people like you that live that life

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wholeheartedly, that want to explore and

inspire others to create not only those

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opportunities, but to share what has been

on our hearts, and being a fellow podcast

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host, I think you're going to relate to

this next question that I have for you.

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There's been many people probably on

your show that have been inspired,

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which just to remind people, because

we've been talking for a while about

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your Coach UP podcast that you have.

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Who has been the most impactful person

that you've had on the show and how

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has that changed you for the better?

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Kaneshi: First, I want to say, I

have to echo your guest, because this

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conversation, Josh, you not backing down

and challenging me to really articulate

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what my purpose is; dig into that why.

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There's a fire.

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A new fire, like the fire is

being rekindled in me, so thank

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you, so this conversation.

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It's in the top five right now,

and I'm not even interviewing you.

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Joshua: Yeah, so you can't say me

to the answer to that question.

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Kaneshi: I can't say you, but

I'll tell you, so one of them-

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two of them come to mind.

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One is Maya Herodette, so her episode

came out about September:

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you want to check that out, amazing.

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She's an amazing woman, but what I loved

about her interview, and really the

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after conversation, like you and I had an

amazing conversation before we started.

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I really think you should record some

of those conversations and use them

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as outtakes because it was a fire.

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Y'all missed some fire

conversation with Josh and I.

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Joshua: Absolutely.

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Kaneshi: But her conversation in mind even

after we got done, she was the catalyst

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to help me birth my business that I'm

building as the extension of my podcast.

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We were talking about

sponsorships for podcasts.

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You have a podcast.

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I have a podcast.

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People who have podcasts

usually want sponsors.

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That's one way that we monetize our

podcasts, and I wanted to help with that,

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but because of how she is, who she is,

how she has a heart to serve, she was

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talking to me about my idea of connecting

businesses with podcasts, and so helping

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businesses find the podcast that they

want to advertise on, so the podcast can

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get the money that they're looking for.

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The business can get in front of

the audience that they want, and the

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business and the podcast don't have

to do the work to find each other.

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I will do that.

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That's the business that I'm building.

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Now you're going to ask

me about that earlier.

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There it is, but-

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Joshua: Boom!

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There it goes what it is that she

is doing because she will do it

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because she's a successful woman.

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Kaneshi: And I've committed it to you.

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Joshua: You did.

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Kaneshi: Yeah-

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Joshua: You're doing it.

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Kaneshi: Absolutely.

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Already done, so her asking me questions

that helped to really sink that idea,

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and then she said these words to

me, Josh, similar to what you said.

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She said, "I need what you're going

to offer, because I'm not going-"; She

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has a coaching business, obviously,

and so she needs people to find a

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podcast that has her audience, and

she said, "I need people to do what

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you're doing and that is a seven figure

business.", and just to hear somebody

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breathe that belief into that idea.

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There was such a peace, praise the

Lord, that just came and sat with me.

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I just knew, okay, that's what I'm

supposed to do, so she was amazing,

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and then really quickly, the other one

that really impacted me was Tim Winders

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is a coach who in the first, I think,

quarter of a year, he and his wife

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had gone from like multi millions to

homeless and their homeless life was

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crazy, but that's a whole other story.

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You can go listen to the episode, but then

the first three months after they bounced

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back, they made like 300, 500 dollars

in three months, and then at the end of

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the year, they had 12 streams of income.

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Sometimes you just need, and just

to hear him talk about it, sometimes

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you just need those belief barriers

broken, right, because we hear the

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thing, "Anything is possible", but

do we really believe it, like, okay,

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Josh, I'm going to ask you a question.

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Joshua: Yes.

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Kaneshi: What is that thing that you want?

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You mentally know that it's possible,

but you have a belief barrier that's

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keeping you from really, truly 100

percent believing it's for you?

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Joshua: Wow.

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That is really the toughest question

that any podcast host has asked me, and

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even on my own podcast for that matter,

it's been the toughest question asked.

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You know, I think that sometimes we hold

ourselves back from really the ultimate

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true selves that we have lying dormant,

and I'll tell you, I have that same fire

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that you've just talked about earlier,

and I have many times tried to take a

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bucket of water and try to extinguish it,

but it keeps on lighting itself back up.

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I will say that, without disclosing the

names of individuals, there have been

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certain individuals that have held me

back, and I am so ready to lead a life

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in which I'm not dictated or detailed by

some people, or profiled, for what I've

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done as actions because that was old Josh.

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That was the old Josh that, at 32

years of age, wanted to pick up a

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kitchen knife and slit his wrist.

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Dead serious.

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Was ready to be done with it.

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The bricks on my back, as I've even

mentioned on being guests on other shows,

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was too much to bear, but now, those

bricks, they are the building materials

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that I'm using to create not just the

best version of who I am, but ultimately

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what I was destined to be, and that is

the single most biggest revelation that

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I've ever had in my entire life, which

is why I ask you the question of who has

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been your biggest inspirations on your

podcast, because I can mention Matthew

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Roda who was really an awesome person.

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I had Brianne DiDino who was also a coach.

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She really challenged me to think

about my thought patterns and

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ways in which I've been who I am.

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I've had classmates on

the show saying, "My god.

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You've changed so much",

but then there's you.

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Challenging you has been the single

most rewarding thing I have done yet on

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this show, and because of that, I think

it means so much to me to know that

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you're willing to carry that forward,

and even if you say to yourself, even

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immediately afterwards that you can't

do it, there's something else inside

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of you that will say, you can do it.

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Kaneshi: Absolutely.

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Joshua: And that's the voice

you have to keep listening to.

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That's what is so important, so

those are some of the lessons I've

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learned, and that's really what

leads into my final question for you.

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We've had an awesome conversation

for an hour, literally, about

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all kinds of different things.

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You've challenged me.

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I've challenged you.

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We have our own promises

that we have to uphold-

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Kaneshi: Mm-hmm.

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Joshua: But we haven't yet challenged

the listeners, so I'm going to

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give you the final word here.

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Here's my question.

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What would you say to our

listeners to help challenge them?

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What's the challenge that you put out to

them today to help them become not just

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the best versions of themselves, but

with everything that you've been through,

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what is that one important thing that

they should hear from such an awesome,

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talented, successful woman like yourself?

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Kaneshi: Find an accountability partner.

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You don't necessarily

like and hear me well.

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It can't be a sandpaper person, right,

like you got to get along with them,

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but when I say you don't necessarily

like, you won't like the fact that

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they've done what I have been blessed

to have Josh do for me today: challenge.

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That they will challenge you, that

they will not let you off the hook,

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and why am I saying accountability,

because I can give you the normal

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cliche answers of, "Get clear."

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That's important.

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I could give you the normal

cliche answer of, " Make sure

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that you are giving your all."

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We know all that.

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No, I'm going to say get an

accountability partner, and it's

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not somebody who is where you are.

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It's somebody who's a

little bit further than you.

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Not quite a mentor, even though they may

mentor you in a little bit of a way, but

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the reason you need an accountability

partner who's just a little bit ahead of

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you and you've got to figure out what that

is, and I'll give you an example, right?

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You're starting a business.

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This person has had a business that is

profitable, or at least generating revenue

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for six months, or for a year, right?

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It doesn't have to be a coach that's

had a business for 10 years and

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they're generating six figures.

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No.

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That's a coach.

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That's different.

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Get an accountability partner, so

somebody that you are somewhat close

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to that you're going to tell them

this is what I'm committing to, what

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Josh has done for me today, and that

likewise, they're going to do and

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you're going to hold them accountable.

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It is a two way partnership, but it is

a statistic that is proven that when you

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tell someone that you will- it's somewhere

between 92 and 98, 92 and 98 percent more

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likely to achieve your goals if you write

it down, we all know this, tell somebody,

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and then have that person- this is the

important part, have that person check

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in with you to make sure you're doing it.

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You're the 90 percentile more likely

to achieve the goal if you add

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that, and so it's uncomfortable.

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It is, I love what Josh said, the

voice you have to listen to, not the

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one that says, "Oh, maybe I'm not."

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No, you choose to listen to the

one that says, no, I committed.

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I will.

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You do that by you finding someone.

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You're willing to put yourself out

there to be honest with them about

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what you are doing, because if you

have an accountability partner, and you

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don't tell them everything related to

what you are asking them to hold you

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accountable for, it does you no good.

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You're willing to be honest

and you're willing to allow

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them to be honest with you.

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Your feelings will be okay.

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They'll catch up.

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You can go cry later if

they hurt your feelings.

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You will thank them because you'll have

cried tears of joy six months down the

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road when you have hit your goals, right?

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We all have feelings.

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None of us like this, but what is

important is that there's somebody to hold

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you accountable, to help you get to where

you want to go, and for you to do that for

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somebody else, that would be the single

most important thing I would tell people,

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Josh, and I would tell you, you guys, as

listeners, because that accountability

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piece is what's so often missing from

our goal setting, our dreams, and our

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execution, and if you will be willing

to do that, you will see an exponential

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growth in yourself first, and in

whatever it is that you're working to do.

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Joshua: I'm not adding anything to that.

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That was so well said.

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Kaneshi, we're at the end of our time,

but before we wrap up, I would like

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to have a moment or so to say some

final words, but how can people reach

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out to you if they're interested and

maybe talking with you some more?

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If you want to pitch your coaching

podcast, Coaching UP podcast, I should

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say, that's the time to do it too.

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I would love for you to share a little bit

about that as well, in terms of how people

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can access it, but I'm going to give

you these last few moments to do that.

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Kaneshi: Thank you.

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IThat i so kind and generous.

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I just want y'all to know what amazing

podcast hosts y'all have, because

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not every podcast host is willing

to do this, and so thank you, Josh.

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Y'all can find me at The Connection

Collaborator on Instagram.

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You can find me at LinkedIn.

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My name: Kaneshi.Hart.

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Kaneshi Hart.

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I know when you spell that

you're going to be like, what?

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But yes, it is Kaneshi.

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Kaneshi Hart.

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There is no A at the end of

my name, just so you all know.

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Connect with me there, but yes,

come listen to the Coach UP podcast.

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I think it's amazing.

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Obviously, y'all have an amazing

podcast host here, and so

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just add it to the playlist.

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That's all.

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Make sure Speaking From

The Heart stays in there.

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Absolutely.

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Oh, my goodness, because it's

going to be added to mine, and

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so add the Coach UP podcast.

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If you are a podcast host or you're

a small business owner, and small

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business owner includes service based,

product base, brick and mortar, online,

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all of that, so coaches, consultants,

all of those social media people.

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Aqueduct people, what have you.

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If you follow in either those categories

and you want to receive advertising

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dollars, because you're a podcast host, or

you want to find the podcast to advertise

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on, reach out to me and I'll be happy to

connect you, so that your business can

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get the exposure and the marketing that

you want to the audience that you want,

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and your podcast can be monetized, so that

is how you can find me and as Josh has

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challenged me, as you continue to follow,

there may be coaching coming up somewhere.

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Joshua: Oh, there will be coaching.

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Absolutely.

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It's just a matter of when.

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Kaneshi: Yeah.

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Joshua: Kanisha,e want to

take a moment to say this.

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There's been many people, 96 episodes,

many of them monologue, many of

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them predominantly have been guests.

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I told Matthew Roda, which is why I

brought him up earlier, that when I

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find the person that is leading an

authentic life just like him, that I

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would reach out to him and let him know.

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I found the person and I really mean that

because sometimes we don't know what it

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means to just lead a life in which we

might have the stupidest things happen

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for no reason whatsoever and then they're

out of our control, but there's really

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two choices in which we have to lead.

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It's either we get sucked into that and

we just become a funnel of negativity

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alongside all of them, or we decide

to stand outside that box and be bold;

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to be beautiful, and to be willing

to challenge what we are to the core,

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because we know we have an awesome gift.

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I promise you that when you're back

on this show, we will celebrate

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those successes together, but until

then, Kaneshi, I really mean this.

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Thank you for Speaking From The Heart.

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It has been not only a tremendous

honor, but it's been a privilege

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to hear from you today.

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Kaneshi: Thank you.

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Joshua: I, from the bottom of my heart,

want to thank Kaneshi Hart so much for

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being part of this show, and being the

authentic person that she truly is,

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because if it wasn't for this interview,

I don't think that even now, as I record

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this a few months later after this

interview, I would have felt the feeling

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that I have about my business, let alone

the ability to know that I can keep

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pushing forward, because even though that

we do these episodes and we do them way

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in advance, I try to have a little bit of

a break in between, but unfortunately, a

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lot of things personally happened to me

after this interview that I'm not quite

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yet ready to share with all of you, but

in episode 100, I will certainly talk

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a little bit about it, but I will say,

to at least give you some context, that

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Kaneshi is one of those spirited beings

on this world that I don't think she

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even realizes her true talents and gifts,

which is why I even challenged her.

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If I'm going to do a six figure coaching

business, I want her to do the same as

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well, and I think that we have to be able

to learn some of the techniques that she

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even discussed in part two that I want

to recap now, so here's a couple things

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that I think are really interesting

about our conversation in this part.

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First off, you have to challenge

yourself for what you have and give

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yourself those opportunities to develop

yourself, but at the same time, which

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I find is the most important piece of

advice, is that you should wait 48 hours

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before you make any type of decision.

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Now, I get it.

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Some of you are already saying, "Josh.

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Hello?

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It's the real world.

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Sometimes I don't even have two

seconds to even think about it.

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Why do I have to wait 48 hours?", and that

is a true point, and I respect that, but

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there are certain things that we should

really wait to do until we actually give

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ourself a little bit of breathing room to

actually think about it, and the promise

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is that we have to be able to learn how

to make that decision for ourselves so

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that we are able to feel a little bit

more comfortable down the road that

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we truly made a thought out decision.

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How can we be an example to others through

that process, and I love the fact that

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Kaneshi talked about a very important

subject even to me which is the whole

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human trafficking process, specifically,

helping women that have been through sex

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trafficking as well, because there are

a lot of things that are not covered as

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explicit as this subject, and I think

that it's so fascinating to me that we

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don't give this topic more consideration.

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I know churches local to me have

discussed this subject matter with

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their congregation and have opened it

up to the public for public dialogue

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and solution making, but I don't think

that's enough to be able to understand

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and make some actionable consequences

against these people that do these

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sort of topics, so who are the people

that we need to be really speaking to?

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What are the people that would help

us to create that catalyst in our

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lives, especially on a subject such

as trafficking, how can we address

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those things, but more importantly,

I think the question that underpins

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everything in our entire lives, and

is really the underpinning of this

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whole entire show, is about this:

what is making your heart vibrate?

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What is making it go, thump, thump?

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I need to tell you something that was

really pivotal about this episode in

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itself is that even when we are talking

about in part one the importance of

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making that connection with people, is

that we have to be able to understand

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that those people, those very same

people, are the ones that we will

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depend on for our very livelihood, so

when we get on social media, especially

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with when I was talking about this

very subject with Matthew Roda back

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in episode 26, it's not really helping

us to really have that conversation

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with people and smack them down, make

them feel like they're not worthy,

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make them feel like that's impossible

for them to even create that value.

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Why spend our time with the trolls of

Facebook, Instagram, X, whatever social

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media platform that you want to choose?

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Why is it worthy of spending our time

doing that when we could use our time

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to build our seven figure business?

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Find that accountability partner.

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Don't let it just be people that use

you as sandpaper, and I know that

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you will easily be able to find out

who those people are because all they

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will be looking for is this and that.

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This and that.

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It's almost like a clock ticking.

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You know at what approximate time

there will be coming knocking

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on your door wanting something a

little bit more than what they just

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received from you previously, but

it isn't just about what you are.

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You have rights.

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You have abilities to create that

opportunity, and you should be able

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to serve who you think you need to

serve, but that person that's checking

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in on you is a little bit different.

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They're not always

asking you for something.

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They just want you to think a little

bit further ahead in maybe what you're

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making as an important decision.

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Maybe they're just checking in with

you not only for the physical well

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being, but for the mental as well.

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I think that I had so many people in my

life at one point that cared about me;

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had always wondered what was going on and

especially when I dealt with my suicide

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four years ago now, I realized that maybe

I had a lot more support than I first

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thought, but at the same time, I also was

neglecting their willingness to help me

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out because I was so ashamed of who I was.

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I was not being that accountability

partner when they were

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asking me to help them out.

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I was the victim of creating my own

issues, so I don't look for pity.

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Why do I share this though?

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I know that there are people

still out there holding a grudge.

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They're still feeling that I am some sort

of monster, and I think that the monsters

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that we create from those experiences

can be slayed once and for all through

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love, and after we had this conversation,

Kaneshi and I had a heart to heart

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about what is really important, and it's

that love; that crazy undeniable love.

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Say what you say and say it like you

mean it, because it's out of love.

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I didn't love myself for the longest

time, and I think that when I started

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my business, I was thinking that

maybe I could just extend myself a

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little bit more to find that love,

but I think through this process,

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especially of even starting my podcast,

I learned a little bit about myself.

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Yeah, there's a lot of the

common things that we've talked

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about: the autism diagnosis.

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The people that I wanted to forgive.

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The people that I knew that if I stood

up to them, maybe they would finally

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listen to me because I had shown some self

confidence, but something has happened

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in me over these last few months after

listening again to Kaneshi's episode

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that I want to share with all of you that

might be helpful, especially if you're

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struggling in this time period of not

quite knowing how to best move forward.

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Just wait 48 hours to make any decision.

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I waited a long time, and I even took

longer than 48 hours for that matter,

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to make a decision of my own, which is

to finally deal with a problem that I

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had for the longest time, and it was

actually something that was holding me

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back, and not to get into particulars,

because on this show, I always respect

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the confidentiality of others, I will

say that it is not just about the things

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that we deal with at the present, but

what we ultimately deal with as problems

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in the future if we don't decide to

address them, and I was not addressing

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something that was the biggest monster

of them all for the longest time.

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As a result of that, I

didn't love who I was.

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I didn't love what I was becoming,

and I needed to find deep inside

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myself what makes my heart vibrate,

and then I realized that the biggest

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thing that I always wanted to do was

be able to live independently free,

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not being able to be held back, and

knowing that if I would just accept

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who I am and love who I was with that

crazy, undeniable feeling, I would be

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able to achieve the ultimate success.

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Since my interview with Kaneshi, I have

made significant strides in my business,

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to the point that I am so proud of what

I have become, and I know that there's a

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lot more work ahead of me, and I know that

there's a lot of things yet to do, but

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there's something about the challenge that

Kaneshi and I made that I want her to know

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after listening to this today, that I want

all of you to know, too after listening

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to this amazing two part interview.

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If we're able to live the most authentic

type of lives in which we're free of

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the persecution, the promises that might

have been broken, and even the pursuit of

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what we hold dear, we are able to create

an identity for ourselves that isn't

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just about trying to find who we want to

match make with, or even find the best

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company to work with, or even some other

reason for our own purpose of our lives.

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If we can just say what we say and

really mean it, and just love from

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a place in which it's crazy and

undeniable, and if we're able to make

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a promise to each other that we will

hold each other accountable no matter

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what that's what's really important.

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We need to be able to connect with

each other in a way in which we

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never thought we could connect.

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We need to be able to focus on

what we're doing because it all

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brings value at the end of the day.

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We need to stop putting

the bad messages on.

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Take that record off.

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Stop saying that you can't do it,

because you are able to do it.

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You are.

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I'll give you a moment to think about

that, because it is so important for

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you to know that it isn't just about

what is happening in the business

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world, it's what's happening with you.

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Do you want to be laid off three more

times before it finally settles in

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that maybe you shouldn't be living

the life that you're living now?

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Are you trying to bypass or

ignore the issues that you have?

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Stop doing it.

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You're worth it.

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What can we do to get you help today?

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As a coach, I want that to be the question

that you are left with, because there

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are amazing people out there that are

doing the good work and that means that

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you should have a piece of that pie as

well, because hope is out there, and

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we need to find catalysts just like

Kaneshi is, to be able to do just that.

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If you've been waiting this whole

entire time to start your journey, now

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is the time to stop waiting, because

you've got to love yourself, in that

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crazy undeniable way, and challenge

yourself, so that you're not stuck

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in a situation such as a trafficking

problem, and find what you have to

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offer, because you have so much to offer.

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You are the example that other

people need to see, and by you not

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doing what you need to do, you're

just putting off the inevitable.

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Find your accountability partner.

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Find the person that will treat you

for who you are, because you are worth

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it, and all the success is just waiting

for you on the other side, and that

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success will not just define you.

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It will not just help you get to that

new plateau, but it will allow you to

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share what's on your heart with that

incredible love that you have to give.

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Thanks for listening to part two of

episode number 96 of Speaking from

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the Heart, and I look forward to

hearing from your heart very soon.

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Outro: Thanks for listening.

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Visit us at www.

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potential services that can help you

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Joshua D. Smith is the Owner and Founder of Your Speaking Voice, a life coaching, business coaching, and public speaking company based in Carlisle, PA. Serving clients across the world, Joshua got his start in personal/professional development and public speaking in April of 2012 through his extensive involvement in an educational non-profit organization called Toastmasters International.

Toastmasters International operates clubs both domestically and internationally that focus on teaching leadership, development, and public speaking skills. Joshua quickly excelled in Toastmasters International and found that he had a passion for leadership and helping others find their confidence and their true "speaking voice". Joshua has held all club officer roles and most District level positions in Toastmasters International and belongs to numerous clubs throughout the organization. Joshua has also been recognized as two-time Distinguished Toastmaster, the highest award the organization bestows for achievement in leadership and communication.

Joshua continues his active role in the community as he serves a Board Member for the Shalom House, an organization located in the Alison Hill section of Harrisburg, PA that provides emergency shelter services to women and children.

Outside of his community involvement, education is something that Joshua has always taken great pride in. His academic achievements include a number of degrees from Alvernia and Shippensburg University. He earned a Bachelor's degree in political science and communications from Alvernia in 2009, a masters of business administration from Alvernia in 2010, and later a masters in public administration from Shippensburg in 2014.

In the professional world, Joshua has held multiple positions with the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania for over 12 years which includes a variety of data analytics, procurement, budgeting, business process improvement (IT and non-IT), legal compliance, and working with the blind. He has applied his public speaking and development skills in the professional world to tackle numerous public speaking engagements and presentations from all levels of the organization, including executive management.

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