Episode #98 - Through Death, Life Always Wins: An Interview With Stacey Niedentohl

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Welcome to the podcast where relationships, confidence, and

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determination all converge into

an amazing, heartfelt experience.

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This is Speaking From The Heart.

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Joshua: Welcome back to episode

number 98 of Speaking from the Heart.

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Today, we have Stacey Niedentohl

with us and she's an entrepreneur

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and co-owner of Hip Gypsy Emporium.

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She prides herself in being a child

of God, evidential medium, spiritual

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healer, and is the author of two books:.

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My Head Knows, But My Heart Still

Hurts, and My Crystal Addiction Diary.

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She wrote My Head Knows, But My

Heart Still Hurts, because of wanting

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to help her clients walk through

grief, and to remember what they

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had instead of being stuck in grief.

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Stacy's true calling is to help clients

hear from the loss of a loved one.

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Every day we live is a

closer day to our passing.

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Through connecting to spirits, she is

able to give you evidence that your

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loved ones are still very much around.

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The book helps honor them by

writing stories of their life

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touched by them while aiding people

through the grieving process.

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Stacey's hope is that after reading

and journaling through this book,

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it will help you to realize that

they are only a whisper away.

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I really think that this conversation

isn't just about learning what the

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spirits have to say, but that, through

death, we actually are not ending our

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life, but we're living a whole new life

in a whole different way, and I know

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that sounds quite far fetched, and you

might even be asking yourself, "Josh,

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you have truly gone on the deep end on

that conversation.", but, after talking

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to Stacey, it's given me a newfound

understanding and appreciation of the

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fact that we can get comfortable with

all kinds of phases of life, whether

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we are younger, whether we are older,

regardless of what it is, it's just

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about getting to the other side.

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Whether we have that connection with

a medium or not, I think that there

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are always signs around us that

death is not the end of our lives.

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It's only just the beginning of the true

magical opportunities that we have lying

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dormant inside ourselves with those

that are a part of the living world.

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I will warn you that there have been some

technical issues during the recording

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of this episode in which you might hear

some reverberation and feedback from when

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I ask questions, and I truly apologize

as you're listening to this, as you hear

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that echo, that you might be able to

tune it out on your own, but the rest

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of the recording, and the substantial

conversation that we have, was not

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impacted during the recording process,

so I apologize in advance if that starts

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to become a little bit more annoying

as we go further into this episode.

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But with that, let's go to the episode.

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Alright, we're here

with Stacey Niedentohl.

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Stacey!

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Thanks for sharing your

heart with us today.

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Stacey: Thank you so much for having me.

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Joshua: Yeah, thank you so much, and

I really am excited that you're part

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of this show today because you are

really somebody that I love having

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these type of people in the show.

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I've had them more recently.

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I had Anna Schmidt we were just talking

about earlier, but you're completely

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different from Anna, so I'm really excited

about our conversation today, but what

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I really want to do to get started is

I really would love to hear about your

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story of how you became a medium, because

for many people, they're very skeptical

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about what mediums are and what they do,

and I'm just curious if you could walk

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us through how you got to this point,

and what makes you different from other

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mediums say that I would engage with

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Stacey: Okay.

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About 15 years ago, I was having

severe panic attacks, anxiety attacks;

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like 10 to 15, panic attacks a day.

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I couldn't hear clocks because the

ticking would make it feel like my

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world was closing in on me I would

feel like my throat was swelling up.

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I would get frozen in time.

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I felt like I was leaving my body.

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I literally would sit on the floor

in between my husband's legs and he

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would put his hands on my shoulders

because I thought I was leaving my body.

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I went to the doctor and talked to

him about it because I didn't know

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if I was early stages dementia or

schizophrenic, or what was going on,

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and I remember my doctor saying to me,

"You don't have dementia; schizophrenia,

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you know, that leads to be seen",

and I went to a counselor and I did

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the meds and did things like that,

and counseled through some of the

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traumas in my past life, and it calmed

things down, but I was still feeling,

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hearing, and seeing things, and my mom

passed about nine years ago in June.

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After she passed, I went and I saw a

medium, and after we did this small

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group reading, this medium came over

to me and started explaining the panic

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attacks; how it felt like my tongue

was swelling, how I felt like I was

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leaving my body, and it kind of freaked

me out a little bit because I had never

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met this woman before, and she said

to me, "Spirit has a big job for you.

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You either need to open up and let

them in or you need to shut it down,

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because otherwise they're going

to make you crazy.", and I already

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felt like I was kind of crazy.

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I remember saying to my husband at one

time, "I don't feel like I'm suicidal,

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but I understand it.", and that scared

me when I started understanding death

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from a different viewpoint, so, I had

a conversation with Jeff, that's my

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husband, about this, and of course

he's like, "You're a child of God.

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You're born in the church.

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You're not doing this.", and I

had a long conversation with God.

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I said, "Look.

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If this is what you want me to do,

you've got to put people in my path,

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and give me signs that I absolutely and

positively know that I'm on the right

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path.", and all of a sudden, I started

seeing things and feeling things, and

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I was introduced to this one gentleman

who was 80 miles away from us, and

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he introduced me to his sister and it

was just all coincidence, but you have

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to think, how many coincidences does

it take till it's not a coincidence?

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The woman that I met was living in

Colorado, but she was coming to Maryland,

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real close to us, like the following week.

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She came and spoke to me.

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She does whole being alignments, which

basically disconnects past traumas from

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past lives from you, and I had her do

this on myself and my husband, and later

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I said to her, "Would you mentor me

into doing this?", and she's like, "Oh.

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I don't do what you do.", and I said,

"What do I do?", and she says, " You

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talk to those who have passed."

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I'm like, "What?"

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She knew a woman in Australia and she

said, "Why don't you give LaSalle a call?

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Have a reading from her.

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If you feel drawn to her, see if she

will mentor you.", so I did, and she

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did a reading for me, and asked her to

mentor me, and the mentorship was six

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or eight classes, and after the third

class, she's like, "You don't need me.

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You just have to trust spirit.

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You have to trust that you're not wrong.

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It just takes practice."

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While I was doing this, we did this

exercise to open up my third eye, and

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instantly when my third eye opened, I

had a flashback of a nightmare I had when

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I was in second or third grade, like I

was back in that bedroom, and I had this

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nightmare of an eye chasing me around.

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My mentor said, "This basically means

that your third eye was trying to open

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when you were younger, but it scared you

too much.", and when I was little, when

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she did a reading for me, she said, "Oh.

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You've been connected to spirits since

you were little.", and I said, "No,

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not that I know of.", and she said,

"Did you used to have goats?", and I

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had imaginary goats when I was a kid,

and she said, "You didn't have goats.

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You couldn't say ghosts.", so my

parents, my sister, teased me all my life

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because I had imaginary goats, but I was

telling them about the ghosts that were

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around, and even if you listen to how

I say it now, I have a little bit of a

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impediment there with goats and ghosts.

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I was like, "Oh my gosh."

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Joshua: I have to interrupt to tell

you that I actually had goats growing

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up; my mom did, and I had a speech

impediment as well saying certain

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things, so I feel like already I like

you because we have this connection.

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Stacey: We have this connection.

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Joshua: Yeah.

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Anyways, I'm sorry.

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Continue, please.

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Stacey: Once I finally opened up

to spirit and started practicing,

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my panic attacks went away.

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I finally felt comfortable in my own

skin, and I'll tell you, I've been

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doing readings, whether they're private

one on one readings with people, or

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small groups,, or gallery readings

now for about eight years and I have

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not had a panic or an anxiety attack

since then, and I know that what I'm

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doing is what I'm supposed to do.

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I'm at a greater peace within myself.

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I have worked through some

traumas that I've had.

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Most mediums that I've met, we all have

something in our background that to

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me, I feel as if I went through this

trauma because when I have a client

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sitting across from me, spirit shows me

something that I have relived or something

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that I've lived that I can explain.

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"Oh, here's what I'm seeing.

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I'm seeing this, this, that,

does this make sense to you?"

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"Oh my gosh, it so makes sense to me.",

so now I know why I went through some of

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the things that I went through, and I've

literally done thousands of readings.

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It's not me.

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It's by the grace of God.

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It's spirit.

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I'm in service to spirit, and I'm

helping others deal with grief; know

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that their loved one is still on

the other side and they are okay.

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You asked me how I was

different from a lot of mediums.

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Joshua: Yes.

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Stacey: We're all

different in so many ways.

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We have different strengths,

different modalities.

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My strength is, I have the knowing, so

I just know that I know that I know.

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Sometimes I see spirit.

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Sometimes I hear spirit.

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It's just that I know.

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Names will come to me, or the way someone

passed, I feel it, so there's clear

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audio, clear centric, clear cognizance.

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I never like to say, "Oh well,

I'm just clear cognizant.",

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because then it puts it in a box.

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I always ask God, "You give me all the

gifts that you want to give to me so

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that I can deliver the most loving and

healing message to the person who's across

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from me.", so with an evidential medium,

we give evidence of your loved one.

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We've seen these mediums, and I'm

sure everybody's seen this medium.

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Let's say you've got a 60 year

old woman sitting across from you.

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Nine chances out of 10, this 60 year

old woman has lost a mother or a father.

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"Oh, would you understand a

mother figure who has passed?"

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Yes, I would, and if they don't

understand it, they may say,

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"Oh, it could be a grandmother.

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Did your grandmother pass?"

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"Yes, yes."

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"Oh, she's a lovely woman and she

loves you very much and she's okay."

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Readings over.

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Right, so how I do it is when I

explain what I'm doing to my client

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I will say to them, "I will give

you several pieces of information.

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I don't want you to feel like you

can't have a conversation with me, but

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remember, you were paying me to talk

to your loved one, so if you start to

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tell me too much, I'll go, 'Hold up.

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Hold up.", and then I'll connect."

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When I'm channeling, I'll say, "I've

got this male figure coming-", and

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this is just an example, "I've got

this male figure coming through, and

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he feels like he has a short B name,

so this could be Bill or Bob, and as

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Bill or Bob is coming in, he feels

like he's above you, so this would be a

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grandfather figure, because he doesn't

feel like he's a father figure, and he's

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pointing to his chest and his heart, so

I feel as if he had a heart condition,

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or the heart is how he had passed.

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Would this make sense to you?

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Do you have a grandfather figure who

has passed, who had a heart issue,

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that had a short name like Bill or Bob?

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It could be Tom, but it's a

short name.", and then I wait for

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the client to say, "Well, yes.

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My grandfather did pass of

a heart attack.", and then

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that's what I'm like, "Okay.

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Thank you.

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Let me go back and see what other

message-", and I'd like to give

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little pieces of information, because

I don't want to make anything fit.

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I want you to know, without a doubt,

that there is evidence that your loved

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one is right here with me, and I'm not

blowing smoke up your hiney, you know-

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Joshua: We don't want that to ever

happen, but yet I feel like as a coach

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myself, I've done that before, so I can

understand where that comes from because

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we're trying to get people to kind

of associate with that, so I'm sorry.

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Yeah.

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I think that it is part of

that bigger conversation.

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Yeah, but Stacey, you said something

that's really interesting that I want

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to touch upon is that you said that

you have a different perspective or

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viewpoint about death, and I think that

in itself is pretty profound because

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most people don't think of death as this.

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"Oh, I have a choice to

think about how this is.

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It's pretty morbid.

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It's pretty scary to go through.", so

I'm kind of curious what your perspective

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is now that you've gone through and you

have found your calling, but you've also

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have a different appreciation for death?

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Stacey: I have a different

appreciation for death, because

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it is more comforting to me.

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It's not that I am ready to pass

and ready to die, it's not that,

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but I don't have a fear of this.

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My fear is leaving my loved ones behind.

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My kids, my grandkids.

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That's kind of where my fear is, but

I don't have a fear of what happens

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when you pass because I know that it is

such a blessing and I know that there's

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comfort on the other side as well, and

I don't know if you've ever witnessed

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someone who has passed or someone who

was close to you that was passing.

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They were very ill, and this person who

is getting ready to pass wants to talk

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about what's going to happen after I die.

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We automatically go, "Oh, no, no, no.

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Let's not even talk about that.

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Let's not even talk about that."

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Sometimes your loved one needs

to talk to you about it, so to

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me, it's more comforting now.

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"Yes.

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Talk to me.

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What are your wishes?

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What do you want to do?"

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I don't know if the word is respect, but

I have a different viewpoint of it now,

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because although my human life chapter

is ending, my spiritual life is gonna be

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beginning, and because of the things that

I've done on this earth, and hopefully

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the good impressions that I've left on

family and friends, even though my human

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body is no longer here, I'm still within

spirit within them, through stories.

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My mom is no longer with me, but her blood

courses through my bones every single day,

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and my bones were made up of her, and if

it were not for her, I would not be here,

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so I look at it a whole different way.

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When mom passed, yes I was

sad, but I had looked at it.

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You know what?

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My parents were married for 50 years.

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She loved my father.

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They did whatever they wanted to do.

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She gardened.

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They traveled.

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She got sick in April,

and she passed in June.

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She was never really sick.

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She never really complained.

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She had lung cancer.

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She fell asleep and she did not wake up.

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It was a blessing to have had her

as my mother, and to be able to

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go through this chapter with her.

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She came through the chapter of

my birth, my growth; how I grew.

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I was able to go through

her death with her.

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It was very humbling and very beautiful.

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Joshua: There are not many people that

would say what you said just now because

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they would be thinking about, "Oh.

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I need to be able to process this and

handle this.", but then when that moment

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comes, they completely destroy themselves

of grief and having this sort of feeling

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inside of them that they can't control

that, which we were just talking about

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the episode that I recorded about that,

and how to deal with grief, so if you are

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interested in taking a listen to that,

that was some of my earlier episodes in

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which you can explore, and maybe that

will help you with some of the things that

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you're dealing with, but Stacey, I want

to pivot a little bit and start talking

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a little bit about your entrepreneurial

spirit that you have led as a result

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of your skills with being trained as

a medium, and I noticed that you are

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the co-owner of the Hip Gypsy Emporium.

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Can you talk a little bit about the

business and how that is a growing spurt

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for you and maybe the co-owner too?

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Stacey: Yeah.

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Well, my sister and I own the shop.

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Joshua: Oh, it's your sister.

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That's amazing.

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Stacey: Yes, it's my sister.

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My sister and her husband

bought the location.

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It was an old school.

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The old Duffield school was for sale.

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We actually bought that right after my

mom passed, and it was just driving back

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and forth from where we lived to mom's

house when we saw that it was for sale

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that my sister and husband bought it in

order for us to have a business there.

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Someone had to live there, so my

husband and I live in the school.

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To me, it's a shop unlike any others, but

maybe I'm a little bias on that, but it's

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that hippie biker boho fantasy, so we've

got jewelry and accessories, coffees,

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and garden items, and honeys, and we do

tea tastings and gallery readings and

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festivals, and it's a place that we want

people to come in and feel like home.

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We've got the crystals and oils

and it's just, I don't know.

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The vibe in there is so good, and

I always want to keep it good, and

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a lot of people will come in and

say, "I just feel like I'm home."

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Joshua: It sounds like it's a little bit

like home, and I think my parents would

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probably enjoy going in there because

they would love the taste of having

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that sort of exposure again, so I think

it would bring a lot of opportunity.

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What would you say is the most unique

aspect that you think makes you stand out,

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because you just said that it makes you a

little bit unusual, unlike other stores.

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What would that be?

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Stacey: I think, and I know a

lot of people may say this, but

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our customers turn into family.

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We have a bunch.

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They'll just come and

they'll sit and be with us.

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During COVID, we were scheduling

appointments, and we had one customer in

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particular that, every week, she would

schedule an appointment and she would

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come in and she would buy something from

us, and then one week she came in and

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she said, "I only have enough money this

week to buy some chapstick, but I'm going

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to buy something from you every week

because I don't want my favorite shop

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to close.", so I was like, "Oh my God.

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You're going to make me cry."

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I think my sister did burst

into tears, but it's community.

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It's about that.

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There's no judgment in the shop.

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I don't care who you are.

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You're welcome at our shop, you know.

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That's just what we want the

vibe to be with that.

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Forget all your cares.

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Forget all your worries.

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Come in and hang out with us.

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Joshua: Your story reminds me

so much of a guest that I had.

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I had Elizabeth Lehr on the show who is

one of the managers of Kick House, and

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she was talking about in episode 49 the

importance of having that community,

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and how that really supported her when

they were shut down for a good part of

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the COVID era, and how when they were

shut getting ready to close up, a lot

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of people bought a lot of their stuff

to just continue the business, and

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now they have expanded into Hershey.

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I'm really proud of Beth and all those

people, and I'm proud of you, because

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you got that client base of people that

really believe in you, and wanting to do

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things that are not only supporting you,

but just feeling like that family, which

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I always say in my coaching, if you don't

have something like that, where you're not

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building that relationship with someone,

especially the importance of having

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somebody to talk to, especially through

hard times, that's really important,

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and that goes for not just individuals,

but also in the business sense as well.

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Stacey: You're either building

the bridge or you're drowning.

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Joshua: Yes.

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That is such a good, good analogy, because

we do need to keep building bridges, and

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for the longest time of my life, I was

burning them to the ground because of just

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feeling this toxicity from others, but

I think that we can either manufacture

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that ourselves, which I later find out

I was, or we can start to build those

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bridges towards helping others, and

I love that you were able to do that.

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Stacey: Absolutely.

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Joshua: Stacey, I want to pivot into

your books that you have written,

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and that's really the big crux of

what I've been interested in wanting

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to talk about with you, so you've

written two from my understanding.

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Stacey: I've written two

and I'm working on a third.

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Joshua: Oh, that is awesome; maybe

you can give us a little preview of

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the third perhaps too, but let's talk

about the first two, so the first

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one that you had written is My Head

Knows, But My Heart Still Hurts.

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I love just the title of that alone

without even knowing anything about

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it, because I feel that we do have

that acknowledgment between my head

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and my heart, which obviously it's

being on speaking from the heart.

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We know more distinctly about those

differences, but tell us a little

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bit about the premise of the book

and what got you into writing that.

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Stacey: Well, it's a 30 day grief

recovery journal, so what it does

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is, or what my intention of the book

was, to help people who are grieving

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to remember what they had, instead of

being stuck in what they don't have.

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You're prompted every day to remember

and to journal about something.

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You journal about a favorite place that

you went, or what they did that made you

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laugh, and you write about this so that

helps you to bring those memories back.

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You can put pictures in there of

your loved ones as well, and every

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single one, I put a God wink in it,

so it's giving you one of my memories

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of someone from the prompt, and when

you think about it, it also creates

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a memoir for future generations.

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One of my grandchildren was not even

of this earth when my mom passed,

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so she never got to meet my mom.

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We talk about her all the time, but when

she's 15, 20 years old, 30 years old, or

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whatever, when I'm no longer here, she's

got this little book that talks about

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her- we call her Gigi; her great grandma,

and all this information, like, "Oh.

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This is where my mom got this", or,

"This is where my grandma got this from."

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It's just little snippets that are in

there, and then I have a section on songs

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because songs tend to bring our memories

around, and there's certain songs that if

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I hear a certain song, it makes me think

of my mom or my uncle, and I would bring

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my clients in on that as well, but I based

this book on questions that my clients

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would ask me, because they would say,

"I'm so afraid of forgetting the stories.

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I'm so afraid of forgetting what

their voice would sound like.",

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and instead of being worried

about forgetting, write it down.

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When some of my clients would come

in, they'll say, "I don't even know

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what to think about today.", so in the

back of the book, there is a monthly

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mantra for every day; every Monday

in February, this is your mantra.

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"I will show love", because February

is the month of love, so if you don't

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know what to think about, I want you

to say this mantra, "I will show love",

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or "I will receive love.", but it gives

your mind somewhere else to go instead

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of to the negative, and I'm sure it

will make sense to a lot of people.

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You don't know how many women I have come

in, young girls who have come in, who

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lost their father, who do not want to get

married because their father's not going

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to be there to walk them down the aisle.

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Joshua: Wow.

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Stacey: How do I get

married without my daddy?

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Joshua: Yeah.

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Stacey: So they may come in and I'll

be like, and I may not even know this.

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Your father has come in.

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He's saying to me, "You've

been engaged for five years.

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When are you getting married?",

and she'll be like, "Oh.

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I can't.", or dad will say,

"There's no reason you can't get

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married, even though I'm not there.

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Carry something with you of mine,

maybe my watch or something like

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that.", but it eases people who

have lost loved ones to addictions.

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"Oh.

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They tried to call me that night

and I didn't answer the phone.

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Maybe if I would have answered the phone."

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Joshua: Is that related to your second

book then, My Crystal Addiction Diary?

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Is that sort of the same premise,

but it's dealing more with addiction?

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Just a good tie in to the next book.

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Stacey: No.

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The Crystal Addiction Diary is

for people who collect stone

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energies, because energy is part

of your well being and your health.

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Joshua: Yes.

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Stacey: And if you buy a lot of

stones and crystals, it's a way for

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you to keep track of what you have.

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When I have clients come into the

shop, and they'll buy four or five

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stones and they're like, "How am

I going to remember what this is?"

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This gives them a way to do that.

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That book I wrote that in three hours.

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I was with my publisher putting it

together much, much longer than I

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thought it was going to be for as

quick as the idea came to me and I had

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it written down; but stone energies.

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That's very good for your chakras and

for grief and for healing and different

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things like that as well, and it's

just a way for you to categorize them

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and to remember what they're used for.

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Joshua: I love that aspect of it to try

to remember and try to control, or tame,

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the energies that we lie in, because as I

mentioned to even to you, and my listeners

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know this very well, we've had a lot of

guests on the show that have talked about

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the presence of energy and how we utilize

it, but we also need to remember who we

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are and kind of where we came from, but

also the people that surround us and I've

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talked about even in some of my earlier

episodes about my step grandfather.

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He was a Lutheran pastor and, man,

your first book makes me want to go

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pick it up because he's been like a

big idol for me as I continue to move

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forward in my life, especially with the

coaching aspect of my business, because

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he was essentially a coach for so many

different people of all walks of life

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being that he was in a pastor role.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Stacey, I want to cover your third book.

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I have no title or anything with

this, and I'm assuming for the

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first two books, they are available

on Amazon or any other bookstore.

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Stacey: Yep.

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They're available on Amazon, and you can

also come to Hip Gypsy Emporium for them.

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You can order them on my website.

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You can message me.

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I'll ship them to you, but yes,

they're available when I do

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gallery readings, I have them

available at the readings as well.

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Joshua: Awesome.

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Yeah.

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I'll put that in the episode notes

for anybody that is interested

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in checking out those books.

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They can certainly go and purchase a

copy or even visit the store, but yeah,

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Stacey, can you tell us a little bit

about the third book that you're writing?

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Stacey: The third book- the title

was kind of up in the air, but I'm

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thinking it's going to be called

Coming Back Home, because it's going

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to be geared on how to find yourself

again, basically, after you've lost

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someone, so it's, who am I now?

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A lot of my clients, again,

they lose both parents in there.

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They say to me, "I'm an orphan."

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I'm like, "You're not an orphan.

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You had parents."

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" Well, how do I figure out where I

fit in without my mom and my dad?"

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You lose a child; good grief!

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I can't even imagine ever losing a child.

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Mom and dad get so lost with grief

because of the loss of their child.

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You know I've got clients that come in

that a deep friend of theirs was murdered,

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and it's figuring out how to beat death

with life and remembering that your

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loved one would not want you to stop

because they are no longer of this earth.

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Joshua: Isn't that the eternal struggle,

I feel like, because it is all about

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overcoming the past versions of ourselves

for those that die and entering into

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a new life, which I have been making

tremendous progress personally in my

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own life trying to do that, getting

rid of some of those distractions, even

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our past versions of who we are, to be

able to do that, and I think it's so

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important so that we can continue to

build on our ability to use our energies

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in a creative way, but also a good way,

to help radiate to others, so Stacey-

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Stacey: Exactly.

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Joshua: As we get towards the end of her

time, I really have this final question

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for you, and it really ties back to

originally what you had shared about why

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you're a medium, because what I find so

fascinating to me is that you can live in

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a life that is helping all these different

types of people that are probably going

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through these struggles of, "Oh man.

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I'm missing this person in my life", and

it is hard for people to actually overcome

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that, so, what would you say to someone

that is struggling out there today?

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They might have a loved

one that has passed away.

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It could be their significant other.

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It could be a friend.

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It could be a family member.

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What would you say to someone that

is still grieving, and might have

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been a long time ago it happened,

but they're still struggling with it?

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What's your advice to them?

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Stacey: Well, there are grief counselors

out there that can help, you know.

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Foremost and most importantly to

my thought process is self care.

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If you're not getting enough sleep,

if you are not eating right, if you're

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in a toxic environment, if you're

doing toxic things to your body,

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you're going to struggle through it,

so try not to be hard on yourself.

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If you grieve one day,

allow yourself to grieve.

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If you have a good day the next day,

don't feel guilty about having a good

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day, but do little things at a time.

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You don't have to do everything

all at once, and grief is like the

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waves that come in from the ocean.

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Sometimes they're little, sometimes

they're big; sometimes they're flat,

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sometimes they'll drown you, but it's

riding those waves and knowing that

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you're human, and the amount of tears

and the amount of sadness that you

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feel just lets me know that you loved

this person and they were a very big

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part of you, and you just want to

allow yourself the time to grieve.

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Now if you've been going through grief,

and it's surmounted into debilitating

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depression, seek a counselor.

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Seek someone that you can

trust that you can talk to.

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I'm not a counselor.

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However, I can connect you with your loved

one, but a medium should not be the person

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that you use as a crutch every week so

that you don't have to walk through grief.

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Once you've had a reading with me, and

people say, "Well, when can I come back?"

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"You know what?

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You need to wait six to eight months

to try to schedule an appointment with

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me and I'm usually about two months

out, so we're looking at about a year."

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Now, if something has happened in between;

let's say you've lost someone else,

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totally different story, but a medium

is not someone, in my opinion, that you

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should go to over and over and over again.

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I am not the solution.

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I am the evidence that your loved

one is okay, has messages for

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you, but they've got things to do.

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Joshua: Yeah.

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I love the fact that you're saying to

people, "Don't come to me until you

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actually see a counselor.", and then

even then, don't use me as a crutch.

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It's just so contradictory and I

wasn't actually expecting that answer

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because you would think that, "Oh yeah.

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Come to me as many times as you need.

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I'm here to support you.", but I think

it's really important to think about

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the fact that if we do rely on those

crutches, those people that have been

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part of our lives that are no longer here,

how do we learn to nurture ourselves,

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to love ourselves, to keep moving

forward and to find new opportunities

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to do what we need to do in our lives,

so I think that's worthwhile advice,

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and yeah, I do encourage people too.

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I'm a coach, but I also

say I'm not a therapist.

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I definitely leave it up to the medical

experts, professionals to give you

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proper treatment that you need, so

always encourage that, but Stacey,

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thank you for those awesome words.

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I want to give you the

last few moments here.

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How can people reach out to you if they

are interested in a reading with you,

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or they might be interested in visiting

the store, how can they reach out to

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you if they would like to get more

information, and if you want to also

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: 00:33:18

pitch your books one more time, this

would be a great opportunity to do so.

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I'm going to give you

the last few moments.

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Stacey: Okay, so I have a Facebook

group as well as a page, and they

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are Connecting To Spirit with

Stacey, as well as the website.

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: 00:33:34

I do have a podcast that I have up.

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: 00:33:36

Again, Connecting To Spirit with Stacey.

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It's still in the growth process, but

I'm pretty easy to reach out to whether

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you come to Hip Gypsy Emporium, whether

you text me, email me, everything is

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connectingtospiritwithstacey@gmail.com;

Facebook; it's all under Connecting

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to Spirit with Stacey, and if you

feel the need to have a private

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reading, just one on one, or if you

want to have a group reading, I will

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come to you if you have five to ten

people, depending on where it's at.

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If I'm traveling a distance, it

has to be at least ten people.

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I do gallery readings in different

locations as well as at Hip Gypsy

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Emporium, but the main thing that you

want to remember for me is that your

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loved one is only a whisper away.

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You can talk to them every single day.

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You can ask them for signs,

and they will send you signs.

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Try not to rationalize it.

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The thing I always tell my clients

is, and I think I've said this before,

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how many times is it a coincidence

until it's not a coincidence?

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My mom was phenomenal for sending

me feathers, and yes, birds lose

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their feathers, but they would

start to be in unusual places.

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I would open up my jewelry bag and

there would be a feather inside that.

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I would be in my Jeep, windows down, hair

flying all over the place, and this small

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little feather would just float down,

so, it's not a coincidence, and when you

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see that, whether it's a feather, whether

it's a caterpillar, whether it's a song.

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"You Are My Sunshine" was a

big song between me and my mom,

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and when she passed, she was an

ad agent for a radio station.

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All of a sudden there's pillows and

there's nightlights, and everything

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says, "You Are My Sunshine."

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She was sending me that message, so

know that they're only a whisper away.

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Know that if you are grieving to

seek counseling, go to a reputable

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medium if it's not me, that's fine.

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I'm not for everyone.

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Ask around.

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Read reviews.

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When I went and saw a medium, it was

one of the best things that I ever

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did, because it got me out of the funk

that I was in, and let me know this

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person could never have known that.

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I mentor students.

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It's just like I said, I just believe

that the world just needs a great big hug.

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They need to manifest love and it to

manifest light and right now it's super

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heavy, so your loved one is right there.

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Joshua: Manifesting love, manifesting

life, and being a whisper away.

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I think those are the three things

that I'm going to take away from this

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conversation, and some things that I'm

going to continue to do for the rest of my

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life, just because of this conversation,

because I think those are all important,

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and I think for all those reasons,

Stacey, that you just mentioned, thank

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you for being on Speaking From The Heart.

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It was really a privilege to talk

to you today, and thank you so

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much for sharing your expertise.

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It's really appreciative.

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Stacey: Thank you so much.

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I appreciate you too.

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Joshua: Stacey's story, along

with all the things that she

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does, is really quite remarkable.

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It's always a joy when I have guests

on the show that have so many different

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talents and tribulations that they have

to share, and that we always seem to

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run out of time to talk about all these

different things, and I always welcome

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my guests, especially to come back, if we

haven't had a chance to talk about certain

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things, and be able to talk about it in

a future episode, but in today's episode

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with Stacey, I really feel that we have

a lot that we can cover and we'll try to

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condense it as much as we can, but one

of the first things that really grabbed

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me about our conversation is about mental

health and really having breakdowns, and

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I know that this has been a common theme

on many of the different types of things

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that we've talked about on this podcast,

but it's not just about the things that we

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go through, the mental health struggles,

but being able to see it from different

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viewpoints, even through death itself.

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I think that we all have heard of stories

of miraculous recoveries, but also those

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that have struggled and even haven't

been able to appreciate what they have

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been able to go through in their life.

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As a matter of fact, there have been

people that even through death were still

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able to talk to, and I think that has

helped to put people on a path to not

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only help each other, but to help others

create that best version of themselves.

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The perfect example that I have is

that I had a high school buddy of

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mine by the name of Jarrett Yoder.

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He was serving in the army after high

school, and unfortunately was involved in

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an Apache helicopter accident during the

war in Iraq in which his crew member and

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himself were both killed in that accident.

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His wife, who has been an advocate for

him ever since he joined the army has

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now been on a life mission to not only

remember Jarrett's legacy, but also

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promote a 5K in his honor every year.

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Being that Jarrett and I went to the same

school, I had the opportunity to interact

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with him, and I always think about him

from time to time even as I record this

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episode, and think about what would have

been like if he was still alive, but I

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have been able to push myself just as far

as in death that he has experienced, and

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I know that sounds quite morbid, and it's

also quite sad to think of it that way,

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but if you really think about it in the

grand scheme of things, everything happens

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for a reason, and for those reasons

alone, death can be an empowerment in

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itself, but I think that's where Stacey

comes into play, especially with those

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individuals that have such a struggle

being able to work through some of

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those difficulties that they might have.

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Evidential mediums help to create that

opportunity, not only for a growth aspect,

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but to resolve some of the past that might

have been held on for the longest time.

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Addressing those sort of things not only

eliminates the fear that we often attach

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to when it comes to death itself, which

we all fear in one way or another, but

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that we also get comfortable with the

other side, knowing that at one point

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or another, we're inevitably, as human

beings, going to face that, and I know.

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There's been many sci fi movies, series

on TV, let alone all kinds of other

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mediums, themselves, quote unquote,

that have talked about this, and even

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have conceptualized what it would look

like to have life that is full not only

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of morality, but immortality, for that

matter, and it's always fascinating to

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me to have those sort of conversations

because that means that the human race

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is still experimenting with things

that maybe, just maybe, we shouldn't be

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getting ourselves into, especially from

the natural point of view, but I digress.

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It isn't just about the things that we

deal with, not only with enhancing the

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medical care that we have, not just in

the United States, but internationally

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that we have been able to provide to

many different nations, but it's about

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really living a life that's involved

with the different phases that we

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go through, and I love that Stacey's

book/journal, really helps to provide

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information to collect those memories,

but also process them in a healthy way.

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The things that we often do that we

create help us to understand and provide

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a lot of different opportunities in

our own lives, not just to process

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death itself, but to also move forward

when death might hold us back, which

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really goes into the question of what

are you doing to take care of yourself,

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so you don't have a premature death?

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I know that for the last few minutes,

I've been talking a lot about death and

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really reflecting on some of the people

in my life that have been through death

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itself, but I often think about the fact

that we have that idea, that concept, of

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what death looks like, and no one's been

able to be revived to look at the other

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side, but I think that we've often have

glimpses of amazing news stories of people

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that have been on the brink of death,

have seen the light, quote unquote, and

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have come back to talk about what those

experiences have been because they had

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been brought back to life miraculously,

and I think that we often see the things

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that we deal with, because of not just

what those people have gone through, not

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only what we have read about, but what

we have seen on television, but we also

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want to idealize what that death looks

like for us so that we're ready for it.

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There's many different types

of industries, especially even

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lawyers for that matter, that are

ready to take your money so that

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you're prepared for your death.

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You want to get your funeral ready?

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Feel free to go ahead

and start planning today.

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There's plenty of estate planning

options available to you, including

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funeral arrangements that can be prepared

in the event that you do pass away.

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Need to have your will?

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I think that having a will is so

important, especially to make sure

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that your assets are divided, making

sure that you have your money spent,

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being able to prepare for what's ahead.

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You can certainly work with a

lawyer to set that up and record

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it with the court of your choice.

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There are all kinds of different types of

industries that evolve around the concept

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of death, but here at Your Speaking Voice,

LLC, it isn't about death when it comes

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to the actual physical manifestation.

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Death, for me, is more of the death

of what we're trying to accomplish;

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to eliminate from your life, in order

to become not just the best version

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of yourself, but to build meaningful

relationships, be able to have the

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confidence to do things that you never

thought you could ever do previously,

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but to have the determination to

keep pressing forward no matter what.

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Death is not the ultimate sacrifice.

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Stacey said something that really caught

my eye, especially when I had been

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reviewing what I wanted to say today, and

I think it's really important, especially

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as we reach the pivotal 100th episode,

which is only a few short steps away.

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Grief is something that usually

holds us back from really ultimately

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achieving what is truly important to us.

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When we have those mental breakdowns,

and we have those moments of enjoyment

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at the same time when we have those

highest levels of success, we often

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feel that we have to do so much more.

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We have to achieve so much before

we die on this earth, but it isn't

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just about what death brings.

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It's about what other people bring

to the table; what you bring to the

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table for that matter, and something

that you want to leave as the lasting

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legacy of your entire existence.

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Many different types of authors would

even talk to you about the importance

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of being able to leave your legacy.

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Make sure that the story doesn't die

inside of you, as Michelle Vandepas,

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one of our previous guests, had talked

about, but I think that we all go

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through different phases of life in

which we might not feel comfortable

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talking about this sort of subject.

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Death can be a very scary thing.

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Matter of fact, change is also one of the

highest ranking aspects that we don't want

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to deal with in our lives, but yet, change

is inevitable just as much as death,

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so, let's think about this for a second.

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If Stacey is able to talk to the

spirits and be able to help you to get

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through to the other side, what you're

really going through, why can't you

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work with a coach like me, Joshua D.

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Smith, in order to help you get

to that other side of what's truly

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important, and as I've always mentioned,

it doesn't always have to be me.

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It can be somebody else that you might

need in order to help you become more

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empowered, be able to have authentic

conversations with others, and achieve

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the greatest of all greats that you've

ever had, but it all starts with realizing

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that we have a finite time on this

world, and we need to be able to not

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just make an impact, but how we can be

able to figure out what are the things

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that we need to do to come back home.

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We can beat death with life.

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We need to live a enriching life in which

it allows us to create not only those

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: 00:46:10

best opportunities to help ourselves to

move to that next level, but to also find

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: 00:46:15

peace in the moments in which we enjoy

the most, so the next time that you feel

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that you're being held back, not only

think about what Stacey's providing, and

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: 00:46:24

maybe buy one of her books to help you

process what you're being held back on,

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: 00:46:29

but I think you should really think about

the fact that you only have so much time.

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Have you been really doing what

you really want to do in your life?

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: 00:46:38

Have you been held back from those

that have passed away, and you're not

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: 00:46:41

quite sure how to best move forward?

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There are a lot of different

options available to you.

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: 00:46:48

You can work on your wills, you

can work on planning your funeral

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so that you're ready to go.

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: 00:46:53

You can even work on the things that you

need to do to take care of yourself, but

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the most important thing, above all else,

especially if you ever visit Stacey's

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store in Chambersburg, Pennsylvania,

which is about a half hour away from

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me, is that you have all the things

available to you right now and they're

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ready for you for the grabbing, so even

if you want to grab on to death or if

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you want to grab on to life, know this.

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You can have a different viewpoint if

you're just willing to change who you are.

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Work on what the things are that are

holding you back, and make yourself

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realize that through death, life can

be so much greater and so much better.

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: 00:47:37

You don't have to be held back anymore

from the fear that you're experiencing.

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: 00:47:42

You can just feel comfortable that no

matter what phase of life that you're

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in, you are so worthy of what's ahead,

and all you have to do is knock down

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that first wall to get to the other

side, because those walls, you might have

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created them, someone else might have

created them, but you can address it.

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: 00:48:08

You can deal with them in many

different ways, so how are you

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going to live your best version

of your life before life is over?

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Thanks for listening to episode

number 98 of Speaking From the

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Heart, and I look forward to

hearing from your heart very soon.

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Outro: Thanks for listening.

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: 00:48:29

For more information about our podcast

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: 00:48:49

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